[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 688 Discussion and 689 Predictions

[Grandmastersensei]

I will not call you a monkey though you deserved it, simply because I will overdue it and received another infraction from the mods. However, as I said, it is not funny that a tard call someone who is teaching him a monkey. As I told you initially, I am a bad match for those kids who never read the manga, because when I argue, I bring a lot of evidence from the manga to slap them out of their imaginary Naruto series.




Sounds good to me, but I doubt you will have something that can stand above my argument without changing your mind about your initial position.


Rasha is a butthurt sausuke fanboy...even if u have crystal clear facts against what he is saying, he will continue with his nonsense.
Its fun to come on these forums and always see him gettin slap around with facts and still act like hes right.
Every single time i read these forums i see this clown arguing with someone with his bs

^This is another BS that proves my points. It is not even fun, and this is why I said that you are not qualified to criticize the manga. You have zero reading skill, and you are unable to look at a picture. Saying that Sasuke transform a ball into foothold make your case worse because it really show that you have an imaginary knowledge of the manga. Now, I understand why Sasuke fanboys are really bad at theories and discussion, and keep spamming thread to call for random power-up.

Now, put this in your little brain once and for all. Sasuke has zero control on the ball and he has zero ability to transform them. The ball belong to Naruto, and Naruto is the one manipulating them to save Sasuke's ass. Below is the evidence, and you should stop using asspul to prove that Kishi is doing asspul.

1. Sasuke about to fall in Lava, and Naruto transforming one Gududama to help Sasuke stand. Go and read Madara vs Minato, Guy and Kakashi to know that those who possess Gududama can control it with their mind in a certain range.

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2. Here, you can see that Naruto help Sasuke stand on the foothold he created, and this is shown by the movement FX with Naruto's hand pointing on Sasuke. You can even see that Sasuke is still not stable.

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Besides, the dialogue in this page is clear. The foothold belong to Naruto, and the shushin belong to Sasuke. In writing class, we have learn that "like" is used to related two similar thing. Thus, Sasuke is saying that Like Naruto's foothold, he received the Shunshin power from Rikudo.

The entire sequence repeated in chapter 688 again where after the blast of the super beast RasenChuriken, Sasuke lost control in the blast and is help by Naruto to land on another foothold.

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Lesson 1: Get out of your dream. Naruto possesses the foothold, and he control them entirely. Naruto is the only one who can fly on his own, and he was helping Sasuke in both cases.

Question: Show me a single image where Sasuke used his crest to transform the Gududama? If you can't, can you shut your mouth?




^This is an overkill of stupidity for two reasons:

(a) you keep saying they are dead, when actually the manga says they did not die. This is why I said you are in denial, but it seems you are actually ignorant of the fact. Please, read the page below, or ask one of your friend to read it and explain it to you. As far as Naruto is concerned, he did not die.

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Above, Naruto thought he was seeing Hagoromo because he was dead, but hagoromo said clearly, "you are not dead yet". This is what Kishi wrote, and it destroy what you think.

(b) In the colored underlined text in your post, you have created a new concept to support your argument - consciousness of death.

Dude, stop. Kishi never defines anything such as consciousness of death. It is your own imagination or creation. Naruto never die, and Sasuke never died. They were injured and were in coma at best. Besides, the manga facts above clearly said that Naruto was alive (not dead yet).

Lesson 2: Stop creating your own asspul in order to prove that Kishi is doing asspul. Start today to read and understand Kishi's story before you can criticize it.



Lesson 3: See lesson 1 and 2. Otherwise, there is no hope for you if you still don't know Hagoromo is the one who gave Rinnegan to Sasuke.

Lesson 4: Check with a doctor, because I think your level of butthurtness is so high no reason can change your mind.

I always see this clown, rasha, being a butthurt sausuke fanboy

 

[Sauce Bawus]

Such a great freaking chapter!! Obviously Kakashi is having a temporary power up.

Even obito mentioned that it was only temporary.

I do think that he is going to have a one sharigan eye again doe...

 

[Sage konohamaru]

Sasuke fan boys refuse to accept the truth

 

[Omningan]

this is a post from a different thread, but pertains to the subject at hand.
please read for answers concerning kakashi/obito

some of that was poorly explained, but you are right, let me reiterate for all the dummies out there.

i agree about chakra being body and spirit energy.
chakra is what makes this manga special.
not everyone has it, remember that, there are normal people here too. people unprepossessing of "chakra"
only some people are ninjas that can manifest chakra. and others are limited in what they can do.
there are people like Rock lee who create chakra and use it to physically empower themselves, but cannot mold it into a jutsu.
there are others like Karen, who are able to heal others by allowing them to "swallow/absorb" her chakra that she molds.
there are even some people like the uchiha/hyuga who physically change their eyes appearance with the application of chakra.
dont even get me started on orochimaru, hes like the nazi scientists.

any way....kaguya started it by stealing chakra from the tree (juubi).
hagoromo and his brother were the first ones ever BORN with it.
they were incredibly powerful and kaguya didnt like that.
she wanted the power all to herself, and tried to kill her children to take it back.
they defended themselves and sealed her and the juubi with her inside hagoromo.
he dispersed the chakra to his children and to the bijuu that he created from that power and then physically died, yet remained spiritually in the impure world so that he could keep a watch over the events.
the black zetsu (kaguyas spiritual chakra manifested physically) had to bring hagoromos power back in both forms (spiritually and physically, senju/uchiha transmigrants combined)
which is what madara did combining himself with hashirama, because hes an idiot, and then kaguya was able to free herself and the juubi from Madara once he acitvated the moons eye plan.
thus reincarnating herself in an attempt to reclaim all the chakra in the world yet again.

i agree about the basic premise of the edo tensei as kabuto explains it.
it grabs someones soul from the pure world and ties it to a body in the impure world.
im not sure this is as simple as its been explained though.
weve seen some pretty crazy stuff from kishimoto
demons, limbos, afterlife, reanimation, reincarnation, chakra, etc.
with the explanation of multiple "worlds" such as the pure and impure...we are forced to wonder
what world did kaguya come from?? why does she want to create an army? who does she intend to fight with that army?
who created the juubi/tree? why does it exist? are there other places like this in the narutoverse?

i agree about obito transferring his chakra to kakashi.
that is what creates the sharingan activation in kakashi.
i do believe that it could stretch on indefinitely though.
obito said that it "MAY BE temporary" almost as if there was a doubt.
i think its important to remember the way that the sharingan is activated originally in an uchiha.
and how different each activation can be, what it represents, how it manifests, etc.
both sasuke and obito both developed sharingan during a battle when fighting for their lives and the lives of their friends
tobirama explains that special charkra is created (spiritual and physical) and emitted by the brain to the optical nerves.
the nerves send out energy that transforms the eyes PHYSICALLY into something else.
the best way to understand that is by understanding that Obito turned his eyes into sharingans physically
and when one of them was given to kakashi in kakashi gaiden story, it stayed a sharingan.
it didnt need constant special uchiha chakra to continue to become activated or be used by kakashi (with no uchiha chakra).
it had already been created within obito and was transferred intact to kakashi.

so given that premise of the eye being manifested during a chakra burst from the brain that permanently alters the eyes...
that would stand to reason that if kakashis REAL eyes were altered by an obito uchiha love chakra burst through kakashis body and into his brain and into his eyes, and RECREATING the sharingan in kakashi, then they are permanent.
sorry to all you ass pull haters, but you need to try and understand the story and the writing before you judge it.
this story (Naruto) started on the premise of sealing a demon inside an infant.
making a contract summoning pact with an undead death god and sacrificing ones soul to seal anothers in hell.
if you want to try and call asspull now, you are 688 chapters too late.
this story is awesome and means a lot, all you have to do is be patient and try to understand what kishimoto is trying to tell you.

 

[lion fang master]

I really wonder what the next chap would be because I saw 9 rasen shurikens and kaguya got absorbed then came another juubi form so I hope see Naruto to see what coming do.

 

[Esdez]

Disappointment from Kishi

 

[Tenshi Hikari]

A PS for kakashi is so amazing that sasuke was surprised coz he doesnt have uchiha blood, but what can we say to the white fang legacy right?? ilove kakashi sensei and ofcourse sasuke!!!! *Squelss

 

[Team7monaa]

1. It was before heavily implied you needed EMS
2. Kakashi could barely handle one Sharingan. Even while used to a 3 Tomoe for years, heavy use caused him to be hospitalized for 3 days.
3. Using Kamui for the first couple times made him stumble and ravaged his body, even after one use
4. It took Sasuke a short while to access his Susano'o, at least a few weeks, but Kakashi has it after a few pages with no experience, and he stabilizes it and perfects it instantly
5. Kakashi is a non-Uchiha
6. Techniques that didn't particularly graze at your stamina gave him trouble, even after using it for a bit. Now, he's able to use a technique that takes a tremendous drain on life force, causing pain that "feels like every cell hurts", but he's handling that just fine
7. One Sharingan drained him, but now he's wielding two Mangekyo Sharingan without any seeming problem


The symbolism Kishi may be trying to put behind it is good, Kakashi and Obito will always work together, the execution, the medium of this symbolism, is utter shit. It makes no sense, contradicts many things Kishi himself previously established, and all in all desecrates what this chapter could have been, and pretty much the series' current status. You're just in denial.

Let's look at this way He got more Chakra and Logic was flushed down the toilet.
Sakura Hardly had enough Chakra to save Naruto when 9-Tails was extracted from him but when she came to Madara's dimension she had enough Chakra to Open Several Dimensions which Kaguya stated was Chakra taxing even tho she's the 10 Tails Junchuriku.
And release the seal.
But I do admit this Chapter was kind Dissappinting but I loved the Rasen-Shuriken Variety

 

[shica]

u know what fuk obito and his sad ass story why or rather how the **** did kakashi get to summon perfect susano wen it took sasuke having to get power from the sage of six paths get it like wat the fuk is kishimotto doing ..and how the fuk did he go back to the past to give kakashi his eyes ..i mean i can understand DAN being he was already an edo so he gave tsunade his chakra before departing that is and was explainable but that just pure bull shit with kakashi and also i thought that u had to have two pairs of sharengan to obtain eternal mangekyo so how that **** did kakashi who is not a real uchiha freaaking summon a perfect susano wtf kishi u really ****ed it up this time and why dose'nt sasuke get his freaking other eye already i mean common already ahh .:nuts:

 

[Omningan]

are you guys blind?
are you reading the same manga as me?

there is no baseline here.
you think you understand because of whats happened so far...
but had you asked me when i was reading episode 20 if I thought it was possible that a ninja could use a jutsu to bring someones soul back from the dead in the form of a zombie (edo tensei), i would have told you no.
if you had asked me when I was reading episode 200 if it was possible that kabuto would inject DNA made from the body parts of the sound ninja and orochimaru and gain their jutsu and snake sage mode, i would have told you no.
if you asked me when tobi first appeared on the scene, that he was actually obito, I would have told you no.
if you had told me that the ultimate bad guy would be a woman, and that naruto would have used the sexy no jutsu, harem style, big D dude style, i would have told you to gtfo. but it happened. and whats worse, it made perfect sense.
i recommend you try to understand instead of getting so mad that you spew curses and venom online to people you dont even know.
the POINT is, that the story of Naruto and the manga are all fictional, and as such they are not bound to any rule that you THINK you understand. it is bound by the vision of kishimoto and what makes sense to him. it is going to be the way he wants it, not you, and getting pissed about it will not help a single person, including yourself.
"so what im going to do is ....moan and whine like an impotent jerk and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!"
"you been here before, havent ya?"
anyways, sidetracked...
what im trying to say is: GET OVER IT.
its done and it makes sense to a lot of us, and clearly kishimoto...who wrote it...soo....yeah...
anyways, id be happy to answer any questions any of you have...not that I owe you that...call it good nature. like Naruto. i enjoy Naruto a lot, Kishimoto has given me a great gift, a beautiful ride, it has made me think and feel a lot over the past decade. personally it pisses me off when some of you ***** about it...as I love it...so I guess I would prefer to help you understand it and love it as well, instead of taking it out on you by yelling back at you that you are stupid and you just dont get it. id prefer to explain it, with words, and common sense...
sorry about my grammer, all you haterz out their, but I dont care nearly enough about a post online to make it puurfect.
yes I did "their" on purpose, there. see? im even funny too. imformative, patient, and funny. such a combination.
i might just be better than all of you. yep. maybe. care to impress? i dare you. double dare? ok ok no wait. triple dare! :devil:

 

[MAN OF SIN]

1. It was before heavily implied you needed EMS
2. Kakashi could barely handle one Sharingan. Even while used to a 3 Tomoe for years, heavy use caused him to be hospitalized for 3 days.
3. Using Kamui for the first couple times made him stumble and ravaged his body, even after one use
4. It took Sasuke a short while to access his Susano'o, at least a few weeks, but Kakashi has it after a few pages with no experience, and he stabilizes it and perfects it instantly
5. Kakashi is a non-Uchiha
6. Techniques that didn't particularly graze at your stamina gave him trouble, even after using it for a bit. Now, he's able to use a technique that takes a tremendous drain on life force, causing pain that "feels like every cell hurts", but he's handling that just fine
7. One Sharingan drained him, but now he's wielding two Mangekyo Sharingan without any seeming problem


The symbolism Kishi may be trying to put behind it is good, Kakashi and Obito will always work together, the execution, the medium of this symbolism, is utter shit. It makes no sense, contradicts many things Kishi himself previously established, and all in all desecrates what this chapter could have been, and pretty much the series' current status. You're just in denial.

Indra used PS without EMS.

Let's look at this way He got more Chakra and Logic was flushed down the toilet.
Sakura Hardly had enough Chakra to save Naruto when 9-Tails was extracted from him but when she came to Madara's dimension she had enough Chakra to Open Several Dimensions which Kaguya stated was Chakra taxing even tho she's the 10 Tails Junchuriku.
And release the seal.
But I do admit this Chapter was kind Dissappinting but I loved the Rasen-Shuriken Variety

Kaguya is not a Jin.

 

[Grandmastersensei]

Very well said.

are you guys blind?
are you reading the same manga as me?

there is no baseline here.
you think you understand because of whats happened so far...
but had you asked me when i was reading episode 20 if I thought it was possible that a ninja could use a jutsu to bring someones soul back from the dead in the form of a zombie (edo tensei), i would have told you no.
if you had asked me when I was reading episode 200 if it was possible that kabuto would inject DNA made from the body parts of the sound ninja and orochimaru and gain their jutsu and snake sage mode, i would have told you no.
if you asked me when tobi first appeared on the scene, that he was actually obito, I would have told you no.
if you had told me that the ultimate bad guy would be a woman, and that naruto would have used the sexy no jutsu, harem style, big D dude style, i would have told you to gtfo. but it happened. and whats worse, it made perfect sense.
i recommend you try to understand instead of getting so mad that you spew curses and venom online to people you dont even know.
the POINT is, that the story of Naruto and the manga are all fictional, and as such they are not bound to any rule that you THINK you understand. it is bound by the vision of kishimoto and what makes sense to him. it is going to be the way he wants it, not you, and getting pissed about it will not help a single person, including yourself.
"so what im going to do is ....moan and whine like an impotent jerk and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!"
"you been here before, havent ya?"
anyways, sidetracked...
what im trying to say is: GET OVER IT.
its done and it makes sense to a lot of us, and clearly kishimoto...who wrote it...soo....yeah...
anyways, id be happy to answer any questions any of you have...not that I owe you that...call it good nature. like Naruto. i enjoy Naruto a lot, Kishimoto has given me a great gift, a beautiful ride, it has made me think and feel a lot over the past decade. personally it pisses me off when some of you ***** about it...as I love it...so I guess I would prefer to help you understand it and love it as well, instead of taking it out on you by yelling back at you that you are stupid and you just dont get it. id prefer to explain it, with words, and common sense...
sorry about my grammer, all you haterz out their, but I dont care nearly enough about a post online to make it puurfect.
yes I did "their" on purpose, there. see? im even funny too. imformative, patient, and funny. such a combination.
i might just be better than all of you. yep. maybe. care to impress? i dare you. double dare? ok ok no wait. triple dare! :devil:

 

[Mystikk]

I just went back and read the chapter again and people naruto is trully frightening.. being able to do a sage tailedbeast wind resengan... thats like 4 or 5 different types of chakras along with manipulation..

edit : im wrong lol naruto is a god a lord lmao thats 9 different chakra variations coming from each tailed beast. I said 5 lol

When naruto and sasuke fight for title of hokage.. sasuke will lose... an im a sasuke fan : /.

 

[maymay]

It make me question what's the real power of the Uchiha eyes....protect people? Why suddenly did Kakashi use Susanoo, a perfect Susanoo? if it is of Obito's chakra or not, this Susanoo doesn't come from hatred. WTF.
I've read all theories, but I hope more explanations than battles in the next chapters .

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

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Kakashi's susano is golden!!!

 

[ssjgohan4life]

Am I the only one who wonders what Hagoromo's brother plays into all of this? Is he Black Zetzu? There was Kaguya, and she had two buys, Hagaromo and his brother, Hagoromo in turn had two boys, Indra and Ashura, the progenitors of Uchiha and Senju, but what of his brother/their uncle?

 

[Narusenpou]

if you ask me Bro, that is really weird, the guy just went of page after sealing his mum.
he is not black zetsu though cos B.Z stated it himself that he was a third child

 

[Narusenpou]

but maybe he will show up with hagoromo and the edo kages to help free the people under I.T in the real Naruto world

 

[AbBoOd]

where is naruto these week guys......

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Am I the only one who wonders what Hagoromo's brother plays into all of this? Is he Black Zetzu? There was Kaguya, and she had two buys, Hagaromo and his brother, Hagoromo in turn had two boys, Indra and Ashura, the progenitors of Uchiha and Senju, but what of his brother/their uncle?

I also wonder about him as well, some says he's BZ, Death God, trapped inside the Gourd,etc.