[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 688 Discussion and 689 Predictions

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susanoo can only be activated by those who have unlocked the full power in both eyes right? There's no limiting to uchihas. Though it's controversal as to if kakashi has unlocked the full power in his eye, Obito for sure did a pretty good job using his to the fullest, so when they are combined activating a susanoo is not impossible. Also, the sharingan is activated when the mind experiences a burst of emotions stimulating the chakra in the uchiha's eyes (I think tobirama said that somewhere), at his particular state of mind, Kakashi just witnessed Obito saving him and dying again, he's watching his students fight with their lives for the world and he desperately wants to be of some use, it wouldn't be impossible for him to draw power from this bundle emotions and acitvate the PS. Just my thoughts so....
 

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4/5.
Finished reading all the available pages for this topic, and i'm actually quite surprised with the amount of disappointment. I always remind myself to keep asking the seemingly broken laws and facts Kishi sensei has been doing through the war. I'm gonna wait for further explanation in the upcoming chapter, especially about how Kakashi turns out like that within short period. The week's chapter is enjoyable for me, because the whole new stuff and table turning are now almost unpredictable anymore, i'm pretty sure is losing my grip on the war arc, so it's intriguing. Still have faith in sensei.

For fans whom decided to drop the manga, i advise you don't do it. Think about it. You'd rather waste all your previous hypes and points of loving this series right into the drain just because of recent few chapters? As a true fan that since long followed hundreds of chapters until today, it's a given to see the development till the end. I can tolerate the abundant rants, because they're a part of opinions, but to the point of leaving Naruto fandom is like a child stamp his feet and walk away in furious due to parents haven't given him the wanted toys. Keep on quering, whilst at the same time, figure out the answers in next chapters. However, i won't stop you from leaving if you still insist. :bouncy:

Manga was alright 4.5/5

Confused on the whole Kakashi thing if it's permanent or not.
Obita said it's used momentarily. *clicking the latest chapter*
 
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I dunno...since Kaguya came out of Madara's body (and that's already a bullshit to me), It's like Kishimoto himself does not know what he is doing...come on, kakashi summoning Susano'o 1 minute after havin both sharingans...it's like I go to play for Real Madrid after 10 minutes training with friends...lol
 

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The only unexplainable part of the magna was the vastness and how kakashi got to learn using susanoo that fast.
Your post, and tyne like are actually the greatest unexplainable conception in the Naruto Fandom. I draw any of you to bring a single page where an Uchiha ever learned to use his dojutsus. I mean for you to bring the following:

(1) Where did an Uchiha ever learn to unlock Sharingan?
(2) Where an uchiha ever learn to use Genjutsu?
(3) Where an Uchiha ever learned to use Susanoo?
(4) Where an Uchiha ever learned a single Sharingan Jutsu?

If you guys can bring facts about these, then you are right. Otherwise, shut up.


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Here is a very good explanation of the chapter

[video=youtube;rIIwfw5PCL0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rIIwfw5PCL0[/video]
 
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^This confirmed everything I have been saying about you. Your have zero reading skill, and you are trying to criticize others. Worst, you think I am rewriting a chapter when you are the one who is denying the facts. Unfortunately, you are arguing against the wrong guy - that is me. I dislike very much those who criticize someone work without having a single clue about what they are criticizing. So, here are the facts repeated for your sake, and don't think I will reply to your post without them.

1. You said that Naruto and Sasuke met Hagoromo in Limbo, but manga facts says No.

Against, Naruto thought he was dead, but Hagoromo says he wasn't. Naruto lost consciousness, but was still alive, and met Hagoromo in his subconsciousness aka the world inside his mind.

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Note that there are actually more facts in the manga, and the page above is the conclusion.

2. Rather than admitting that you are butthurt like all the people who are complaining, you claimed that Hagoromo was in Limbo. You are mad because Obito chakra came out, but Manga facts says that even Hagoromo chakra can come out to talk.

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See, it is plain and square. You of all people accept BS for some character, and complain for other character. I have seen many people praising chapters where Madara pull out any shit from his ass, and was called a bad ass. Why can't you shut the **ck up and admit that Obito is the most badass of all of them. The dude is the one who has been the closest to Hagoromo himself.

3. Finally, you are denying the fact that Sasuke said he got his teleportation Jutsus from Hagoromo. Well, manga fact is plain and square, and failing to see it means simply that you don't know how to read text written for children.

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Naruto: I forgot you could use the shun shin thing. I got worried.

Sasuke: Like this foothold ... It is because we were both blessed with Rikudou's power.

See, dude, this english is very simple. The only things they are talking about are the Shunshin and the foothold, and according to Sasuke, they are both Hagoromo's power. Get out of your denial, and start respecting Kishi for once. Besides, you are not lying to me. Rather, you are fooling yourself. The funniest part is that you did not see that Hagoromo is the first person to awaken the Rinnegan, and the father of Ashura and Indra. Sasuke did not receive all Hagoromo's power, and that is why is Rinnegan is very weak.


Dude I thought you was done with me killing you with facts (I see that everything about you is full of sh!t), I guess you like me debate destroying you and shoving your B.S right back up your a$$.

You can keep showing the same pictures that don't prove your point and passing and hurdling over the one's that make them irrelevant, cause it don't make you right. But it do make you not only a Narutard, but a Kishimoto propagandists minion (how about you put up chapter 674 page 12 to 14 Narutard then if you still want to play, I hit you with the death blow).

Once again Kishi Drone Sheep Cheerleading Zombie, Hagaromo the Sage of the six path (also Madara himself said this is how he retain the rinnegan Hagoromo has) clearly told Naruto & Sasuke, that the only way you can get the Rinnegan is Indra chakra combine with Ashura chakra (Madara, Sasuke chakra + Hashirama, Naruto chakra).

Sasuke and Naruto was set up to get there Sharinnegan and Juubi mode power up with meeting or not meeting Hagoromo. Naruto with getting 7 of the tail beast chakra then having Obito give him the other 2 beast chakra to be able to go into Juubi mode. Sasuke got some of Hashirama chakra from Edo Hashirama or he got it from Kabuto putting his Hashirama cells within him (or both could be the reason he has Sharinnegan), which gave him all the components to have the Rinnegan/Sharinnegan . How could Hagoromo give someone something he didn't even have and his mother Kaguya had in the Sharinnegan (I also notice you slime your way out of if Hagoromo gave Sasuke his power than he gave Naruto his too rebuttal, just like I wrote).

Hagoromo gave them his chakra within the crest moon and sun signs on there hands and with that they could seal or use some of his chakra to do unique thing like in Naruto case be Naruto Jesus and in Sasuke case touch the black Rikudou orb and staff and do black Chidori in his left hand (but they were getting Juubi mode and Sharinnegan anyway).
 
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Dude I thought you was done with me killing you with facts (I see that everything about you is full of sh!t), I guess you like me debate destroying you and shoving your B.S right back up your a$$.

You can keep showing the same pictures that don't prove your point and passing and hurdling over the one's that make them irrelevant, cause it don't make you right. But it do make you not only a Narutard, but a Kishimoto propagandists minion (how about you put up chapter 674 page 12 to 14 Narutard then if you still want to play, I hit you with the death blow).

Once again Kishi Drone Sheep Cheerleading Zombie, Hagaromo the Sage of the six path (also Madara himself, who retain the rinnegan Hagoromo have said this) clearly told Naruto & Sasuke, that the only way you can get the Rinnegan is Indra chakra combine with Ashura chakra (Madara, Sasuke chakra + Hashirama, Naruto chakra).

Sasuke and Naruto was set up to get there Sharinnegan and Juubi mode power up with meeting or not meeting Hagoromo. Naruto with getting 7 of the tail beast chakra then having Obito give him the other 2 beast chakra to be able to go into Juubi mode. Sasuke got some of Hashirama chakra from Edo Hashirama or he got it from Kabuto putting his Hashirama cells within him, which gave him all the components to have the Rinnegan/Sharinnegan . How could Hagoromo give someone something he didn't even have and his mother Kaguya had in the Sharinnegan (I also notice you slime your way out of if Hagoromo gave Sasuke his power than he gave Naruto his too rebuttal, just like I wrote).

Hagoromo gave them his chakra within the crest moon and sun signs on there hands and with that they could seal or use some of his chakra to do unique thing like in Naruto case be Naruto Jesus and in Sasuke case touch the black Rikudou orb and staff and do black Chidori in his left hand (but they were getting Juubi mode and Sharinnegan anyway).
^This is the reason why you are complaining. You have decided to classify what Kishi said crap. Then, you go on complaining because your own understanding of the story is not what Kishi gives. See, you are having your own Naruto series, and you should stay in that imaginary dream of yours. It's not funny to dream about your own narutoverse, and come on Kishi's Naruto's forum to complain. As I said, you will have to deal with the evidence below. If you think there is another evidence that contradict this, bring it on. For Your interest:

1. Hagoromo's chakra >= Ashura's chakra + Indra's chakra
2. Hagoromo's chakra = true origin of Rinnegan.
3. Ashura's chakra +Indra's chakra gives Rinnegan because they are Hagoromo's children with half-half his chakra (Yin +Yang)
4. Sasuke's Rinnegan =/= Hagoromo's Rinnegan.


And concerning your Limbo craps and others, here are my facts.

1. You said that Naruto and Sasuke met Hagoromo in Limbo, but manga facts says No.

Against, Naruto thought he was dead, but Hagoromo says he wasn't. Naruto lost consciousness, but was still alive, and met Hagoromo in his subconsciousness aka the world inside his mind.

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Note that there are actually more facts in the manga, and the page above is the conclusion.

2. Rather than admitting that you are butthurt like all the people who are complaining, you claimed that Hagoromo was in Limbo. You are mad because Obito chakra came out, but Manga facts says that even Hagoromo chakra can come out to talk.

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See, it is plain and square. You of all people accept BS for some character, and complain for other character. I have seen many people praising chapters where Madara pull out any shit from his ass, and was called a bad ass. Why can't you shut the **ck up and admit that Obito is the most badass of all of them. The dude is the one who has been the closest to Hagoromo himself.

3. Finally, you are denying the fact that Sasuke said he got his teleportation Jutsus from Hagoromo. Well, manga fact is plain and square, and failing to see it means simply that you don't know how to read text written for children.

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Naruto: I forgot you could use the shun shin thing. I got worried.

Sasuke: Like this foothold ... It is because we were both blessed with Rikudou's power.

See, dude, this english is very simple. The only things they are talking about are the Shunshin and the foothold, and according to Sasuke, they are both Hagoromo's power. Get out of your denial, and start respecting Kishi for once. Besides, you are not lying to me. Rather, you are fooling yourself. The funniest part is that you did not see that Hagoromo is the first person to awaken the Rinnegan, and the father of Ashura and Indra. Sasuke did not receive all Hagoromo's power, and that is why is Rinnegan is very weak.
 

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I come here often after a new chapter to see what people think is going to happen on the next, but man, some of you need to calm the hell down. You are mad about random power ups and the for some reason phrase of the week "ass pull" in a fictional world? We're talking about a world where you can come back from the dead, move around as a soul, be turned into a living corpse, be sealed, change dimensions, control the elements, fight with and seal immense chakra beasts into your body, the list goes on and on, and yet you are mad about this chapter?

An ass pull would have been Kakashi being dead, then without any rhyme or reason, being alive with susanoo, but its clearly explained and fits JUST FINE within the world of Naruto. You need both eyes to use susanoo which is why Obito never used it, you only needed one to use Kamui but when Kakashi and Obito did it together it worked much better, see? Obito didn't come back to the land of the living, you never see him alive again do you? He disintegrates and sees Rin, then uses Kamui to come back but he takes Kakashi into the same dimension that he and Rin were in, or did you not notice they were all kids? With the two together they both came more powerful and were easily able to awaken susanoo for as long as Obitios chakra lingers.
 

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^This is the reason why you are complaining. You have decided to classify what Kishi said crap. Then, you go on complaining because your own understanding of the story is not what Kishi gives. See, you are having your own Naruto series, and you should stay in that imaginary dream of yours. It's not funny to dream about your own narutoverse, and come on Kishi's Naruto's forum to complain. As I said, you will have to deal with the evidence below. If you think there is another evidence that contradict this, bring it on. For Your interest:

1. Hagoromo's chakra >= Ashura's chakra + Indra's chakra
2. Hagoromo's chakra = true origin of Rinnegan.
3. Ashura's chakra +Indra's chakra gives Rinnegan because they are Hagoromo's children with half-half his chakra (Yin +Yang)
4. Sasuke's Rinnegan =/= Hagoromo's Rinnegan.


And concerning your Limbo craps and others, here are my facts.

1. You said that Naruto and Sasuke met Hagoromo in Limbo, but manga facts says No.

Against, Naruto thought he was dead, but Hagoromo says he wasn't. Naruto lost consciousness, but was still alive, and met Hagoromo in his subconsciousness aka the world inside his mind.

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Note that there are actually more facts in the manga, and the page above is the conclusion.

2. Rather than admitting that you are butthurt like all the people who are complaining, you claimed that Hagoromo was in Limbo. You are mad because Obito chakra came out, but Manga facts says that even Hagoromo chakra can come out to talk.

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See, it is plain and square. You of all people accept BS for some character, and complain for other character. I have seen many people praising chapters where Madara pull out any shit from his ass, and was called a bad ass. Why can't you shut the **ck up and admit that Obito is the most badass of all of them. The dude is the one who has been the closest to Hagoromo himself.

3. Finally, you are denying the fact that Sasuke said he got his teleportation Jutsus from Hagoromo. Well, manga fact is plain and square, and failing to see it means simply that you don't know how to read text written for children.

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Naruto: I forgot you could use the shun shin thing. I got worried.

Sasuke: Like this foothold ... It is because we were both blessed with Rikudou's power.

See, dude, this english is very simple. The only things they are talking about are the Shunshin and the foothold, and according to Sasuke, they are both Hagoromo's power. Get out of your denial, and start respecting Kishi for once. Besides, you are not lying to me. Rather, you are fooling yourself. The funniest part is that you did not see that Hagoromo is the first person to awaken the Rinnegan, and the father of Ashura and Indra. Sasuke did not receive all Hagoromo's power, and that is why is Rinnegan is very weak.


Oh my Naruto Jesus' you did it again (man this is totally pointless, you are a helper monkey using the computer), you show the same chapters pages a third time and skip pass the chapter and pages I wrote to you to look at. You look over Sasuke having the Sharinnegan and not having Hagoromo rinnegan like Madara retain, but Kaguya Sharinnegan, Sasuke and Naruto talking about using Hagoromo chakra/power when it come to their crest signs on there hands, Sasuke getting chakra from Hashirama and Hashirama cells from Kabuto and last but not least what Madara and Hagoromo quoted on how to get the rinnegan eye's (Kabuto as we'll).

Now it's time for me to stomp you and your B.S points in the dirt.

1. Foot hold point: Sasuke use his hand with the crest sign to transform Rikudou ball into a foot hold, just like when he pull out the Rikudou rods out of Tobirama and when he put Rikudou power into Chidori and to use the seal. Just like Naruto can use his crest sign to heal people and bring body parts back (if it's not cause of the crest in Sasuke and Naruto hands and it's just a power up ability then they should be able to do this crap with any hand) and once again Sasuke have the Kaguya Sharinnegan eye not Hagoromo Rinnegan eye.

2. Limbo point: Naruto and Sasuke both die and that was the reason they were able to talk to Hagoromo in there conscious of death, before moving over to the underworld, which over here in America is consider Limbo (I don't know what they consider this place to be in Japan). So what you now a genius on the Narutoverse after life (man you are such a loser).

3. Hagoromo giving his chakra to Sasuke gave him the Sharinnegan, like Obito gave Kakashi M.S eye point: So you buying or believe that Obito is more powerful and greater than the Hagoromo the god and the Sage of the 6 Paths, who use Ninshuu to watch over the world and travel through time using Ninshuu. Cause if Hagoromo was only able to give Sasuke a full blood Uchiha one rinnegan eye that can't do any of the paths and he needed Sasuke to die first and come to limbo, before giving it to him. While Obito on the other hand was able to use ninjutsu to leave limbo and give Kakashi a nonuchiha two M.S eye 's, that can give him the power to skip pass EMS and skip right to the final stage of Susanoo than you and your god Kishimoto need to be in a asylum in a strait jacket, in line for shock treatment immediately(There can't be a human this dumb, could it).

Sasuke was able to awaken one of the Juubi/Kaguya Sharinnegan eye after getting Hashirama chakra and cells and then after dying. Putting him on his way to surpass Madara in the time and eye power that it took him to awaken both his Hagoromo rinnegan eye's.

So I'm truly done with you now, cause life is to short and I don't really care what you believe, stay dumb as all he!! (plus your I.Q succubus Zombies power starting to work on me and make my head hurt, cause of how idiotic you are, which give you the power to drain my I.Q over the internet and eat it)
 
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Oh my Naruto Jesus' you did it again (man this is totally pointless, you are a helper monkey using the computer), you show the same chapters pages a third time and skip pass the chapter and pages I wrote to you to look at. You look over Sasuke having the Sharinnegan and not having Hagoromo rinnegan like Madara retain, but Kaguya Sharinnegan, Sasuke and Naruto talking about using Hagoromo chakra/power when it come to their crest signs on there hands, Sasuke getting chakra from Hashirama and Hashirama cells from Kabuto and last but not least what Madara and Hagoromo quoted on how to get the rinnegan eye's (Kabuto as we'll).
I will not call you a monkey though you deserved it, simply because I will overdue it and received another infraction from the mods. However, as I said, it is not funny that a tard call someone who is teaching him a monkey. As I told you initially, I am a bad match for those kids who never read the manga, because when I argue, I bring a lot of evidence from the manga to slap them out of their imaginary Naruto series.


Now it's time for me to stomp you and your B.S points in the dirt.
Sounds good to me, but I doubt you will have something that can stand above my argument without changing your mind about your initial position.


1. Foot hold point: Sasuke use his hand with the crest sign to transform Rikudou ball into a foot hold, just like when he pull out the Rikudou rods out of Tobirama and when he put Rikudou power into Chidori and to use the seal. Just like Naruto can use his crest sign to heal people and bring body parts back (if it's not cause of the crest in Sasuke and Naruto hands and it's just a power up ability then they should be able to do this crap with any hand) and once again Sasuke have the Kaguya Sharinnegan eye not Hagoromo Rinnegan eye.
^This is another BS that proves my points. It is not even fun, and this is why I said that you are not qualified to criticize the manga. You have zero reading skill, and you are unable to look at a picture. Saying that Sasuke transform a ball into foothold make your case worse because it really show that you have an imaginary knowledge of the manga. Now, I understand why Sasuke fanboys are really bad at theories and discussion, and keep spamming thread to call for random power-up.

Now, put this in your little brain once and for all. Sasuke has zero control on the ball and he has zero ability to transform them. The ball belong to Naruto, and Naruto is the one manipulating them to save Sasuke's ass. Below is the evidence, and you should stop using asspul to prove that Kishi is doing asspul.

1. Sasuke about to fall in Lava, and Naruto transforming one Gududama to help Sasuke stand. Go and read Madara vs Minato, Guy and Kakashi to know that those who possess Gududama can control it with their mind in a certain range.

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2. Here, you can see that Naruto help Sasuke stand on the foothold he created, and this is shown by the movement FX with Naruto's hand pointing on Sasuke. You can even see that Sasuke is still not stable.

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Besides, the dialogue in this page is clear. The foothold belong to Naruto, and the shushin belong to Sasuke. In writing class, we have learn that "like" is used to related two similar thing. Thus, Sasuke is saying that Like Naruto's foothold, he received the Shunshin power from Rikudo.

The entire sequence repeated in chapter 688 again where after the blast of the super beast RasenChuriken, Sasuke lost control in the blast and is help by Naruto to land on another foothold.

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Lesson 1: Get out of your dream. Naruto possesses the foothold, and he control them entirely. Naruto is the only one who can fly on his own, and he was helping Sasuke in both cases.

Question: Show me a single image where Sasuke used his crest to transform the Gududama? If you can't, can you shut your mouth?


2. Limbo point: Naruto and Sasuke both die and that was the reason they were able to talk to Hagoromo in there conscious of death, before moving over to the underworld, which over here in America is consider Limbo (I don't know what they consider this place to be in Japan). So what you now a genius on the Narutoverse after life (man you are such a loser).
^This is an overkill of stupidity for two reasons:

(a) you keep saying they are dead, when actually the manga says they did not die. This is why I said you are in denial, but it seems you are actually ignorant of the fact. Please, read the page below, or ask one of your friend to read it and explain it to you. As far as Naruto is concerned, he did not die.

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Above, Naruto thought he was seeing Hagoromo because he was dead, but hagoromo said clearly, "you are not dead yet". This is what Kishi wrote, and it destroy what you think.

(b) In the colored underlined text in your post, you have created a new concept to support your argument - consciousness of death.

Dude, stop. Kishi never defines anything such as consciousness of death. It is your own imagination or creation. Naruto never die, and Sasuke never died. They were injured and were in coma at best. Besides, the manga facts above clearly said that Naruto was alive (not dead yet).

Lesson 2: Stop creating your own asspul in order to prove that Kishi is doing asspul. Start today to read and understand Kishi's story before you can criticize it.

3. Hagoromo giving his chakra to Sasuke gave him the Sharinnegan, like Obito gave Kakashi M.S eye point: So you buying or believe that Obito is more powerful and greater than the Hagoromo the god and the Sage of the 6 Paths, who use Ninshuu to watch over the world and travel through time using Ninshuu. Cause if Hagoromo was only able to give Sasuke a full blood Uchiha one rinnegan eye that can't do any of the paths and he needed Sasuke to die first and come to limbo, before giving it to him. While Obito on the other hand was able to use ninjutsu to leave limbo and give Kakashi a nonuchiha two M.S eye 's, that can give him the power to skip pass EMS and skip right to the final stage of Susanoo than you and your god Kishimoto need to be in a asylum in a strait jacket, in line for shock treatment immediately(There can't be a human this dumb, could it).

Sasuke was able to awaken one of the Juubi/Kaguya Sharinnegan eye after getting Hashirama chakra and cells and then after dying. Putting him on his way to surpass Madara in the time and eye power that it took him to awaken both his Hagoromo rinnegan eye's. So I'm truly done with you now, cause life is to short and I don't really care what you believe, stay dumb as all he!! (plus your I.Q succubus Zombies power starting to work on me and make my head hurt, cause of how idiotic you are, which give you the power to drain my I.Q over the internet and eat it)
Lesson 3: See lesson 1 and 2. Otherwise, there is no hope for you if you still don't know Hagoromo is the one who gave Rinnegan to Sasuke.

Lesson 4: Check with a doctor, because I think your level of butthurtness is so high no reason can change your mind.
 

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All these people who are thinking that it's just Kakashi doing the work, when it's obvious that Obito is the one doing it. Its similar to the connection of a biju and their jinchuriki. Kakashi is directing the power straight from Obito's will and last remaints of chakra. Although Obito is helping him do it, because Obito is right there with Kakashi, 'holding' his hand and guiding him to all this power. Look outside the box. Kishi is doing just fine.
 

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I give this chapter a 5/5 frankly because 1. Kakashi needed a power up 2. This isn't the first time Kishi has done somethin like this (remember the pain arc when naruto saw his father again?) And didn't Tsunade's boyfriend turn into a ghost or somethin before his reanimation disappeared? Naruto and Sasuke in limbo then getting those massive power ups from the hermit of six paths? And for the reasoning of Kakashi getting Perfect Susanoo I have a few theories on that: 1. Obito gave Kakashi some chakra as well that will allow him to be able to use the PS for a certain amount of time and 2. Kakashi and Obito have used their sharingan separately for so long that once put together Susano would already be complete I mean Kakashi and Obito had The Mangekyo Sharingans since they were 13 I feel like it's like putting a puzzle together all that was left in need to create it was a lot of chakra and I guess Obitos chakra put together with Kakashis chakra was enough for a certain amount of time.
 
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