[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 687 Discussion and 688 Predictions

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Re: Things i didn't like in this chapter

This chapter was just terrible. The others since Kaguya's debut have been bad, but this one is just awful. I really don't even want to continue watching this manga anymore. I'm even wondering why I ever watched it in the first place...

The points you made are pretty spot on about the latest chapters.

For 500 chapters naruto's shown to be somewhat of an idiot, yet during the war he suddenly has beyond shikamaru intelligence and, even in the latest chapters, he's getting praise from kakashi as "always being a genius". Since shippuuden kakashi's been calling naruto stupid but suddenly he's always been a genius...? Wtf...?

Kaguya's supposed to be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much more powerful than madara. We already know Madara >= Sasuke + Naruto because that's how it was basically portrayed. But, here comes naruto; A few chapters ago he was getting smacked around by kaguya and needed sasuke's help... Suddenly he's soloing kaguya and kaguya can't keep up with his 1337 hax0r powers.

I can go on and on but I don't even want to rant more about this garbage.
Thank god Obito's finally dead at least. Too bad next chapters is going to be more rin rin rin BS, most likely.
Why would there be more rin?

He's dead.
 

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Do none of you whiners who are complaining about Naruto saying something nice about Obito and about Obito slighting Sasuke by not apologizing to him for the massacre realize that this is a manga about ninja. Do you truly know what ninja did for a living? They are mercenaries. Most ninja in this manga have blood on their hands, some more than others Here is a definition from wikipedia:

"A ninja (忍者?) or shinobi (忍び?) was a covert agent or mercenary in feudal Japan. The functions of the ninja included espionage, sabotage, infiltration, and assassination, and open combat in certain situations.[1] Their covert methods of waging war contrasted the ninja with the samurai, who observed strict rules about honor and combat.[2]"

That is how the village makes money. Tsunade got paid by whatever village or person wanted to hire them and then she sends them on missions for that village or person. Onoki was taking heat from the ninja villages because he was using Akatsuki instead. The Akatsuki were originally pretending to replace ninja so they could start a war between the villages and make the money the ninja used to make. It was a lie to hide their true purpose but it was believed at the time.

Naruto is Ashura's transmigrant. He wants to find a way to peace. He believes the killing should stop and that killing the people who killed his friends or comrades will never end the cycle of hatred. Hashirama, Ashura's other transmigrant believed the same thing. He did not wish to kill Madara and offered him a chance to not fight at the beginning of the battle. Madara declined.

Naruto did not forgive Nagato but he made peace with him because Nagato was willing to accept that his way was wrong and Naruto's way might be right. I'm sure he did not forgive Obito either, but he truly did get a chance to look into Obito's heart to a point that Obito felt violated, and he did see the person who Obito truly was and would have been if not for Madara, and that he really regretted his actions.

Obito was able to accept that he was wrong and try to help the alliance instead. Naruto realized it and accepted his help. Naruto knew when he tried to heal him that he couldn't heal him completely and that Obito was going to die just as Sakura realized it when she touched him too. I guess Naruto chose to let him die with dignity by going out having tried to do the right thing.

Do the Kages after all of their transgressions and the previous wars forgive each other for all of the death and destruction of the past. Probably not. They couldn't stand to be in the same room together before the alliance. They realize that in order to beat a common enemy they need to work together. This manga is about forgiveness and redemption, second chances, righting the wrongs of the past and working together as the means to finding a path to peace.
 
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Dis chapter was a waste of my time, though gave a 2 for just d actions that all, kishi we tired of rin... Rin dis, rin that, like she is more important that naruto's mum, or that great women, she was jsut a girl, who always get capture, And never achieve any feats so far.
U made madara, die like an ant, he was not even in a fight with team 7 and/ the hokage, before bz just stabbed him with bear arms like, it was nothing.
Now obito who should have died a long time ago, die and we get to see lots of panels about him and rin, I consider dis poor writing. No action at all,

How on earth, is naruto faster,than sakuke, made sakuke to be faster, and we accepted that, and now dis, kishi common! Naruto has got c bijus with him, kushina's and minato chakra, and he can use them at his own will, and do anything. He can Fly now from dis last manga after u told us, he can float, it's like sakuke character development, has been ruined, naruto just did exactly/ even more dan what sakuke did with his eye,.
What the hell is sakuke's power up, naruto has a lot of power up I can't count, for sakuke, change short distance, upgraded susnoe and left eye, that all, u made sakuke susanoe become, Useless a lot of times
OT : just d same way u made minato useless because, u wanted to develop tobirama, and u made tobirama, more powerful, like minato copy all of his move and only created rasengan, minato cannot use nature's element, he can go into sage mode because of time, and he resenga is very weak in sage mode, kakashi confirmed that, what was all d blabbing about version 2 for minato, when tobirama, already did that, according to d anime. U have ended up ruining minato's character throught d fight, even tobirama, laughed at him, kishi u made someone like minato who u consider a Genious loose both arms like he is stupid, why den praise him, u even gave kushina's stupidity to him
,d only thing minato is good at, is that he slightly faster than tobirama
 
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It's one thing to be mature and understanding.. But to call someone "the coolest guy" after the shit he's done is Kishi screwing up Naruto's character.. If he would just said " I understand" or "I forgive you" then Obito died it would've been better written and this chapter would'nt be ragged on

2/5
 

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That quality of honor Naruto possesses is what makes him the great character he is. The fact that he can acknowledge mistakes and errors when those mistakes and errors have been righted in retribution (Obito just saved the world, twice) make him a Hokage.

Obito is my favorite character just because of how tragic his story is, Kishi effectively captures every aspect of poetical roleplaying in these characters. I'm saddened he died but the fact he got to meet up with Rin again (who also forgave him) sort of helped me deal with it.

Sort of confused by how Sasuke appears alongside Team 7 again after attacking & being transported to the other dimension though. Maybe I missed something.

Naruto's rage speed >>>

RIP OBITO
Obito just abandon their ass. Would you ever say something like that?
 

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Is it just me or does Kishi love making Naruto seem like a inconsiderate, uncaring dumb ass?

"to me, he was the coolest guy!"

Like, bro, this is the man who killed your parents, your best friend's family, turned your life to shit, killed your sensei and your friend in your own ARMS, and killed hundreds in a war. What the actual ****

That moment made me facepalm so badly. Chalk up another moment where Naruto's charcater is crapped on. Like, okay Kishi, I understand you want to make Naruto out to be the new Jesus, but he is still HUMAN. No human, no matter how pure hearted they are, can just not only forgive but also care for someone who has put them through so much pain and suffering. It pisses me off SO much
Naruto understands the character behind Obito, and who he really is, a lost boy striking out (with great power obviously). His interaction with Obito inside Obito's mind (or Naruto's mind I can't remember which) sets up Naruto to be more forgiving. Hell, even Sauske got off from death row (apparently now) after all the shit he pulled, and that stuff was significantly more personal to Naruto.
 
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To me, Obito died an honorable death by saving the man he swore to kill & finally opening his eyes to admit his mistakes. Meeting the love of his life in the afterlife? Couldn't ask for anything more.
Kakashi is going thru the Great Depression
Sasuke embarrased his rinnegan AND his Susanoo
Naruto went beast mode& fodderized Kaguya AND Bz at the same time
5/5 for this chapter !
 

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Alright chapter for me. Only a few good panels, not much plot development or combat development, and some plot inconsistencies. Plus, Kishimoto took his sweet time stretching the few seconds it would have taken Obito to disintegrate into ash and made it an entire chapter...
 

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Dis chapter was a waste of my time, though gave a 2 for just d actions that all, kishi we tired of rin... Rin dis, rin that, like she is more important that naruto's mum, or that great women, she was jsut a girl, who always get capture, And never achieve any feats so far.
U made madara, die like an ant, he was not even in a fight with team 7 and/ the hokage, before bz just stabbed him with bear arms like, it was nothing.
Now obito who should have died a long time ago, die and we get to see lots of panels about him and rin, I consider dis poor writing. No action at all,

How on earth, is naruto faster,than sakuke, made sakuke to be faster, and we accepted that, and now dis, kishi common! Naruto has got c bijus with him, kushina's and minato chakra, and he can use them at his own will, and do anything. He can Fly now from dis last manga after u told us, he can float, it's like sakuke character development, has been ruined, naruto just did exactly/ even more dan what sakuke did with his eye,.
What the hell is sakuke's power up, naruto has a lot of power up I can't count, for sakuke, change short distance, upgraded susnoe and left eye, that all, u made sakuke susanoe become, Useless a lot of times
OT : just d same way u made minato useless because, u wanted to develop tobirama, and u made tobirama, more powerful, like minato copy all of his move and only created rasengan, minato cannot use nature's element, he can go into sage mode because of time, and he resenga is very weak in sage mode, kakashi confirmed that, what was all d blabbing about version 2 for minato, when tobirama, already did that, according to d anime. U have ended up ruining minato's character throught d fight, even tobirama, laughed at him, kishi u made someone like minato who u consider a Genious loose both arms like he is stupid, why den praise him, u even gave kushina's stupidity to him
,d only thing minato is good at, is that he slightly faster than tobirama
 

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Obito got to redeem himself by saving Naruto and finding Sasuke.

Naruto is supposed to represent forgiveness, second chances and righting the wrongs of the past. While he did not forgive Nagato he was able to make peace with him anyway even though he knew Nagato destroyed Konoha, killed Juraiya and he had even sensed Kakashi was gone. I was not surprised Naruto thought he was cool because when Obito was younger they were alike in many ways and Obito did save his life. I don't believe Naruto forgives all of Obitos wrongs either, but he is abiding them because of his forgiving nature. There cannot be peace without a willingness to put the past aside for the greater good.

When they were fighting Naruto got to see into his soul. He saw who Obito was and who he had hoped to be when he was younger. He got to see who Obito would have been had Madara not corrupted him. Empathy was always Naruto's strong suit. They had much in common when they were younger and I'm sure Naruto identifies with that as Obito did with him.
This is it exactly.

Plus, Obito's actions caused a lasting impact on Kakashi, who imparted Obito's values - even his exact words - to Naruto. So, yes, he took a lot away from Naruto, but also contributed to the core of Naruto's values. Naruto's "coolest guy" comment provides closure for Obito's character.

RIP Uchiha Obito
 

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Naruto calling Obito "the coolest guy," well that guy killed your parents. Naruto's a facepalm. I feel even worse for Kakashi loosing another friend.
 

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That chapter was definitely a great read. Obito going out was definitely fitting for him and gave me a rush to see Naruto's reaction and anger reach it's boiling point. 5/5.

Definitely excited and hoping Naruto continues his smack down in the next chapter. Haven't been on to do a lot of "chapter breakdowns" due to some schooling but I'll be more active with those when I get done.
 
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