[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 684 Discussion and 685 Predictions

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Oh! I had forgotten about those fella's. You're right, they might play an interesting part here. Alone, Kakashi can't do much, but with the help of the 4 Hokages.... they can do some real damage! This is going to be very interesting. Thanks mate!
Anytime. You have to think they will encounter her eventually due to them being immune to ET, plus it would be another chance for the to display their powers, specially the hype man Hiruzen. They have to play some role.
 

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wparker6804, whatever you lecture man, but the fact remains the same strengthwise naruto should be nowhere even close to kaguyas power and kaguya should easily makeout the real one or pinpoint all the hiding real ones say use mkb like u said.

This is bulshit manga, kishi has spoiled everything naruto needs some kind of powerup to fight, i mean he does not even have a complete biju in the first place (9 tails just half power sealed within him and he is fighting a real legend who has all the eye techniques, so much power on her own with which maybe can defeat a 10 tails and top that she has 7/8 tails captured within her now.

I would say naruto would last for few seconds before he faints when in close visinity to kaguya nad sasukes body must tear apart from far for not being to withstand kaguyas chakra and should be an instantaneous death right at the moment kaguya got resurrected.

That should have been the end of story
Well, Naruto didn't know about Kayuuga all of the time he was training with "that jutsu"--whatever it is.
The whole point behind my "idea" is that he is truly multiplying himself. All of them are, technically, sensed as the original.

Besides, the application is how it fits to Naruto's STYLE and his roots--not really about Kaguya's fight. It's weird, but if I worded it right you'd understand.
It's the next stage of his oldest and best jutsu.
 

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This was an interesting chapter. Does anyone else think Kaguya is being controlled by Zetsu. Maybe Zetsu formed when Kaguya ate the Fruit from the God Tree.
That's an interesting theory. I think zetsu is simply doing her bidding. He is her 'will'. The reason she seems hesitant is because he is her voice of reason. If she can reincorporate black zetsu within herself instead of having him as a separate and unique entity, then she might become more cold blooded and she might gain an understanding of using jutsu. Remeber, black zetsu is the one who recorded all manner of jutsu and shinobi history. Right now, kaguya is only using pure chakra attacks because she wasn't present when shinobi manipulated chakra by creating jutsu so she doesnt really know about using chakra in that manner. Maybe that could be a way for kishi to power up kaguya and make her a threatening final villian unlike the way she is now.
 

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I like the chapter and I like some of the stuff I predicted happened (Naruto's Rendan)

If anyone is interested, check out my 685 prediction, people say it's awesome ;)

 
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hi it was an awesome chapter i think naruto used yin release to heal himself with a like small battle avatar like susanoo and naruto will get sasuke and we will see what happened to hokages with hagoromo
 

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I'm gonna go with Sakura replacing Naruto thanks to Obito's teleportation, her using a transformation jutsu to look like Naruto, taking the hit from Kaguya and then fast healing next week. Teamwork no jutsu like the good old days.

Kaguya should see through clones but she might not be able to see through transformations - she falls for distractions like Naruto says. Sakura has Tsunade's healing factor so she would recover pretty quickly.
 
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How great would it be if naruto got his own spin on FTG using the clones as the space time point, teleporting to the clone or swapping places with it.

I don't necessarily think that's what happened in this issue, but it almost seemed to me that the naruto that got hit by that attack was the clone that was with Sakura and Obito. We never actually see naruto's real body enter the portal, and if he did why wouldn't he land next too or even on top of her since he was following directly behind her? In addition he didn't seem to have clones following him when he attempted to enter the portal, those 'clones' dispersing I believe were Sakura and Obito hiding themselves upon entry. Obito even says it was thanks to Naruto's clone that were able to hide.

I think the real naruto is back in the ice realm with the rest of the clones.
 

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The byakugan can't tell the difference between the shadow clones and the original. That's why black zetsu asked naruto if that was his real body before he attacked because no one can tell besides naruto. Also why shadow clones is such an awesome technique...even neji couldn't tell the difference.

I think kurama made his chakra greater so the KB wouldn't poof disappear upon being destroyed and I think kurama gave the clone more chakra to be able to make the jump into the core dimension.

I'm still confused on where naruto's original body has gone. If his clones are still around, then his body has to be somewhere.
We all must have forgotten that naruto beat negi the same way. With the shadow clone jutsu!! Go Naruto!
 

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Greetings Base!! I am new here, though I have been lurking these forums for years I had to join in to the discussion.

As for the how the story is unfolding, I think that Kaguya is the lone survivor of her people thus, her greater plan is to bring back her people (implying Zetsus are a failed/incomplete attempt).

I think Naruto actually used a transformation Jutsu, he transformed into Kakashi, hence, that's why Kakashi's final words for the chapter result confusing.

Kimmimaro definitely descends from Kaguya, as in the Kaguya clan. This was confirmed by the use of the bone technique.

The Hokages might be able to jump into the fight via Tobirama or the actual Sage will transport them. The Edo Tensei characteristics (e.g. infinite chakra) will prove handy in this battle. I want to believe that Madara will come back somehow.

Last, but not least, I think Sasuke doesn't know (yet) the full power of his Sharinnegan. Since it looks so much like Kaguya's I think he might be able to jump through dimensions.
 

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good chapter 3/5

1. naruto should be dead, but I think this wont happinin...

2. kaguya is full of emotion and more human like - if she s a goddess, she should be like an emotionless monster

3. BZ is in my opinion the head of kaguya, he control and manages everything. he decides and he judges...

4. obito is going to die, so he decides to die for good reasons.

5. sakura is making her wish come true, she could be the key of the victory over kaguya

6. the hokages and kaguyas son(s?) could be a interesting combination, I hope that their rolls be an important one

last but not least, kimimaro could be an ancestor of kaguya, not only the use of bone jutsu, but take a look of their eyebrows... thinking there should be a link together

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I'm gonna go with Sakura replacing Naruto thanks to Obito's teleportation, her using a transformation jutsu to look like Naruto, taking the hit from Kaguya and then fast healing next week. Teamwork no jutsu like the good old days.

Kaguya should see through clones but she might not be able to see through transformations - she falls for distractions like Naruto says. Sakura has Tsunade's healing factor so she would recover pretty quickly.
Neji could not tell clones apart in his fight with Naruto.
 

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Neji could not tell clones apart in his fight with Naruto.
Hey, thanks for the rep.

First off it is only a guess - I'm sure there are other potential solutions.

That said the prediction is based on more than Kaguya not being fooled by clones but there is that as well.

First, BZ comments that a clone would not be able to survive travel through the portal into this realm:


That should rule out clones from being involved in this trick altogether.

Second is the comment from Naruto that the only things that work against Kaguya are diversions and taijutsu:


That makes me think that this is an elaborate fake out dreamt up on the fly.

Third, if Naruto is not a clone, he is still not able to sustain such a blow while maintaining so many clones - at least that's BZ's reckoning:


Of all the characters that are left, only one is non essential:


...and only one can take a blow like that, recover and maintain a clone (a "Sakura" is still with Obito but a clone would be enough to deliver chakra which is what she's there for):




If Kaguya had had her Byakugan active then she might have been able to read the chakra flow and determine that it wasn't Naruto but there aren't any veins bulging and Kaguya is saving on chakra for something else in the works:


Generally speaking if Kaguya just had Byakugan (like Neji) then I figure she might be taken in by clones alone but her Sharingan / Rinnegan should be able to do everything Madara was able to do and he could tell the difference between clones and real people:




Taking everything into account I think that that just leaves a Transformation Jutsu and Sakura. I've read a couple of the theories out there but none of them seem all that convincing. Given the setup I don't think clones are being employed and I don't expect a character to die quite yet. At least that's my take.
 
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Well, Naruto didn't know about Kayuuga all of the time he was training with "that jutsu"--whatever it is.
The whole point behind my "idea" is that he is truly multiplying himself. All of them are, technically, sensed as the original.

Besides, the application is how it fits to Naruto's STYLE and his roots--not really about Kaguya's fight. It's weird, but if I worded it right you'd understand.
It's the next stage of his oldest and best jutsu.
Okay I couldn't take it anymore and just have to respond:

First off -- Naruto himself saying aloud - I the original will now go - is a tactic -- nothing more -- in other words for once he actually moved like a ninja and deceived his opponent -- think about it...if kaguya thought the original was in the other dimension why would she care to stay in the ice realm??

As for him creating clones similar to 2nd and body splitting - I do not think that he's doing anything like that (although it is kinda cool to imagine).

The reality is one of the following:
He is either still in the ice world
Hid in kamui and came out after kaguya left so he could look for sasuke.
 

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Hey, thanks for the rep.

First off it is only a guess - I'm sure there are other potential solutions.

That said the prediction is based on more than Kaguya not being fooled by clones but there is that as well.

First, BZ comments that a clone would not be able to survive travel through the portal into this realm:


That should rule out clones from being involved in this trick altogether.

Second is the comment from Naruto that the only things that work against Kaguya are diversions and taijutsu:


That makes me think that this is an elaborate fake out dreamt up on the fly.

Third, if Naruto is not a clone, he is still not able to sustain such a blow while maintaining so many clones - at least that's BZ's reckoning:


Of all the characters that are left, only one is non essential:


...and only one can take a blow like that, recover and maintain a clone (a "Sakura" is still with Obito but a clone would be enough to deliver chakra which is what she's there for):




If Kaguya had had her Byakugan active then she might have been able to read the chakra flow and determine that it wasn't Naruto but there aren't any veins bulging and Kaguya is saving on chakra for something else in the works:


Generally speaking if Kaguya just had Byakugan (like Neji) then I figure she might be taken in by clones alone but her Sharingan / Rinnegan should be able to do everything Madara was able to do and he could tell the difference between clones and real people:




Taking everything into account I think that that just leaves a Transformation Jutsu and Sakura. I've read a couple of the theories out there but none of them seem all that convincing. Given the setup I don't think clones are being employed and I don't expect a character to die quite yet. At least that's my take.



BZ saying that clones don't have enough chakra doesn't fly in my opinion - it'd be more accurate to say that he 'believes' a clone wouldn't have enough chakra.

It's possible that Naruto has healing capabilities like hashirama in terms of recovering from direct damage so it is a possibility...however...it looks like a normal clone trick to me. Him saying that he was the real one was simply to throw the enemy off and divert focus, plus since a clone is not 'supposed' to be able to go across it would further increase the belief that he was the real one. This would give naruto an opening to do whatever else he needed to do since kaguya would have been distracted. As for sensing whether it was a clone or not I think if kaguya was fully focused that would be possible...remember the time way way back when naruto turned into akamaru and even after he was hit he transformed again to akam. dog form? The eyes tend to believe what it sees...same thing here. If at that low-level stage he was able to pull off that trick, think of how much better he has gotten now.
 

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good chapter 3/5

1. naruto should be dead, but I think this wont happinin...

2. kaguya is full of emotion and more human like - if she s a goddess, she should be like an emotionless monster

3. BZ is in my opinion the head of kaguya, he control and manages everything. he decides and he judges...

4. obito is going to die, so he decides to die for good reasons.

5. sakura is making her wish come true, she could be the key of the victory over kaguya

6. the hokages and kaguyas son(s?) could be a interesting combination, I hope that their rolls be an important one

last but not least, kimimaro could be an ancestor of kaguya, not only the use of bone jutsu, but take a look of their eyebrows... thinking there should be a link together

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Here's the way I see it...
...hagoromo caused uchiha and senju -- and I'm guessing the other brother led to the byakugan since he seemed to possess the byakugan. But look at kimimaro's hairstyle and kaguya's hairstyle - plus she used the bone tech. so yeh he's related somehow.
 

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What happenned is that the real Naruto didn't achieve to go through the dimension.

Then Black Zetsu thought that Naruto entered with 2 clones; and that the clones disappeared; but what really happenned is that who came in was NarutoClone, Sakura and Obito (thanks to Kamui). Then Sakura and Obito hided in Obito's dimension; (that's why Black Zetsu said that the "clones"( Sakura and Obito) disappeared). That also explains why Naruto didn't really die, and the clones already exist in the ice world.

I'm sure it has to be this way!

(sorry for my bad english)
Impressed !
 
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