[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

[NaruSasuRival]

Re: karin not being able to read the chakra means nothing

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"This Chakra"

"I have a very bad feeling"


You can't say she could sense Sasuke's dark chakra and at the same time dismiss that she can sense the malice in this current persons chakra. It doesn't work like that. She specifically points out that its the Chakra that is giving her unease.

Hypothetically, if Gai were standing there, or some one else she doesn't know, but has a "warmer" chakra...I don't think she would be as nervous. But the fact that the chakra is giving her unease means it is not a born-again Kabuto.

Thanks bro. This could be someone else, but it look more like Kabuto mixing sage mode with curse seal power. And while many people don't accept, I have predicted that Kabuto should break out of Izanami by his own science. It would be very bad for Kishi to create characters with unique skills over many chapter and then throw them away. Besides, Kabuto merging with Sasuke would be a better choice for Sasuke to get power-up because he has Juugo's, Suigetsui's and Uzumaki's DNA. This could cause Sasuke to unlock a new power.

 

[End of Days]

This chapter was a slap in the face to all those who claimed minato is not a sensor

Looks like all the non-sense spewed about minato like not being able to do shadow clones, not being a jinchuriki is slowly getting trashed by kishi Lol

Madara confirmed for shit tier intelligence for letting the rikudo's tools out of his hands

 

[baah]

with things turned out like this obito is the only one capable to revive naruto...

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Re: karin not being able to read the chakra means nothing

Thanks bro. This could be someone else, but it look more like Kabuto mixing sage mode with curse seal power. And while many people don't accept, I have predicted that Kabuto should break out of Izanami by his own science. It would be very bad for Kishi to create characters with unique skills over many chapter and then throw them away. Besides, Kabuto merging with Sasuke would be a better choice for Sasuke to get power-up because he has Juugo's, Suigetsui's and Uzumaki's DNA. This could cause Sasuke to unlock a new power.

Lol, okay, until today's chapter I actually I believed it was Kabuto. But Karin's statement nearly puts a nail in that coffin.

Again, she even distinguishes the difference between recognition and unease.

She says, "Some one is with Sasuke"

Oro: "Do you recognize them."

Karin: "No"

and this is the important part..

Karin: "BUT, this chakra...I have a bad feeling."

It's not the fact that she doesn't recognize the chakra, it is the fact the chakra she is sensing is making her uneasy, she very clearly makes the distinction.

And to your point about Kabuto merging. He is in an Izanami loop and do you remember why? For the very reason of trying to become some one else, if he broke out it would only be because he has accepted that he must be his own person. You are suggesting that he has freed himself (accepting who he is) and is now trying to literally become some one else...you see the problem?

 

[Jack Spicer]

I hope Tenten seals Madara.

Good chapter. Didn't love it. I'd give it a 4. I liked seeing Tenten and the crew. Neji reference! The war should be serious though. These goofs shouldn't happen here, but I mean, whatever.

 

[Goddess Leone]

Re: It's Confirmed

Please stop posting

There's no need to be upset.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Re: karin not being able to read the chakra means nothing

This. Besides, Izanami isn't turning Kabuto into a man running on rainbows, if anything it's turning him away from becoming a second coming of Orochimaru. That doesn't mean he won't go back to being the same person he was in early Shippuden. And if that's the case then Karin would be able to distinguish his chakra.

But there is something you doing wrong in your analysis. When it was established that no one could escape Izanami, it was mainly among Uchihas. We could even say that it was very long time ago, in an era where people like Orochimaru did not exist. Even the Uchiha were surprise that a non-Uchiha could use Mangyeko sharingan. Similarly, guys like me who love science expect Kabuto to prove that everything doable by humans can be explain. Thus, we love to consider a little possibility that Kabuto can exit the look without obeying Itachi, because Itachi's suggestion was BS.

Can Itachi decide what is good for Kabuto? Is Itachi a god?
Basically, Itachi was exactly confirming Kabuto's thoughts - that is if you are not powerful, the stronger will decide for you. This should have given Kabuto more power to break the loop. By the way, do you remember how long it took Kabuto to repair his body from Tsunade's hit?

Lol, okay, until today's chapter I actually I believed it was Kabuto. But Karin's statement nearly puts a nail in that coffin.

Again, she even distinguishes the difference between recognition and unease.

She says, "Some one is with Sasuke"

Oro: "Do you recognize them."

Karin: "No"

and this is the important part..

Karin: "BUT, this chakra...I have a bad feeling."

It's not the fact that she doesn't recognize the chakra, it is the fact the chakra she is sensing is making her uneasy, she very clearly makes the distinction.

And to your point about Kabuto merging. He is in an Izanami loop and do you remember why? For the very reason of trying to become some one else, if he broke out it would only be because he has accepted that he must be his own person. You are suggesting that he has freed himself (accepting who he is) and is now trying to literally become some one else...you see the problem?

How does Karin sensing something bad discount Kabuto. As far as we know, Karin left Orochimaru's hideout after Orochimaru's temporary death. Thus, Karin does not know Kabuto's chakra post incorporating all Taka's member's DNA. Second, Karin does not know Kabuto know DSM. This should make her fail at identifying current Kabuto.

Next, where did Kishi said that Izanami cannot be broken? Basically, it is only a belief in the Uchiha clan that is going to turn exactly like the Shiki Fuijin belief. And this time, it will be by Orochimaru's servant. Besides, I have notice that in these forum, apart from what is said by the Uchiha, no one want to believe the other character. Kabuto did said he was the closest to Rikudo, and he proved it a bit. Basically, if Itachi did not have Izanami, they would have lost.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I know everyone will flame me when i say this but... i highly doubt madara is getting that other half..

 

[Gilgil21]

Lol.. It's only going to get crazier from here.. Now the 4th is going to have to go ape shit on someone to save his son!

 

[Gatsuuga]

Lawl, tenten to seal madara in amber pot

How much would you rage if madara got sealed by tenten using the amber purifying pot? It's not like she doesn't have experience using the sages weapons. It would be kishis ultimate troll.

* Tenten: hey madara remember me?
* Madara: lawl no, this is like the third time you've spoken all series. What do you even do again?
* TenTen: (smiles) SEALS!!!!!!
****madara sealed and we all live happy ever after.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Re: karin not being able to read the chakra means nothing

But there is something you doing wrong in your analysis. When it was established that no one could escape Izanami, it was mainly among Uchihas. We could even say that it was very long time ago, in an era where people like Orochimaru did not exist. Even the Uchiha were surprise that a non-Uchiha could use Mangyeko sharingan. Similarly, guys like me who love science expect Kabuto to prove that everything doable by humans can be explain. Thus, we love to consider a little possibility that Kabuto can exit the look without obeying Itachi, because Itachi's suggestion was BS.

Can Itachi decide what is good for Kabuto? Is Itachi a god?
Basically, Itachi was exactly confirming Kabuto's thoughts - that is if you are not powerful, the stronger will decide for you. This should have given Kabuto more power to break the loop. By the way, do you remember how long it took Kabuto to repair his body from Tsunade's hit?

With this response though, it seems you are still dancing around the issue. You have now suggested that the jutsu that decides one destiny...doesn't decide one's destiny. So Kabuto, broke Izanami, without realizing he has to rely on his own strength and be his own person. I get that you are planting your ground on this issue. But, you are jumping through WAY too many hoops to try to explain that it is Kabuto.

"Oh well he broke Izanami because it is designed for Uchiha."

"Oh well Karin can't recognize him cus his chakra has changed"

"Oh well he still wants to take Sasuke's body."

There is no reason to believe Izanami "wouldn't work" on Kabuto. You are simply trying to counter each point with over reaching arguments.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Re: Lawl, tenten to seal madara in amber pot

thatd be the biggest troll but i'd laugh at all the nerd rage tears

 

[Richardsad]

Naruto get kyubi's chakara from rikudo's tools that spit by madara and got by ten ten thats how he get the kyubi chakara

 

[Rasha29]

664 Prediction By Rasha29: Title Path

Start off with Sasuke slowly being pull toward a light.

Sasuke: I can't die, I can't die, I have to become Hokage and change the ninja world first.
What is this I am feeling, it feel as if Naruto is here with me.

Sasuke start to here his name being call; I won't let you die Sasuke. Sasuke then awake and it's Kabuto over him using medical jutsu.

Sasuke: Why help me

Kabuto: Your brother help me realize who I am and what I am in the ninja world to do. As I have watch this battle in the back round, you Sasuke let me know how to reach it.

Tobirama: Who is this guy, but he seem to be a talented healing ninja.

Kabuto then inject Sasuke, using a needle and Sasuke get up (only showing the back of his head).

Kabuto: Me and Oroachimaru have did plenty of test and observation of you, while you were at our side and we came to the realization that you are the key to ninjutsu and cause of that we were more interested in your body for Oroachimaru, instead of the Tail Beasts. Now cause of your brother helping me, instead of me following Oroachimaru path, I want to help prevent ninja from becoming me or your brother and I believe that you can accomplish that as Hokage.

We jump over to Gaara, Sakura and Naruto arriving at the Minato, Kakashi vs Black Zetsu/Obito battle.

Minato: Naruto, what wrong with my son

Yang Kurama; it seem that my other half was extracted.

Minato: What

Gaara: The nine tail fox told me to.

Yang Kurama: Shut up boy, there is no time, I know what to do Minato.

Sakura: Save him please

Minato perform a hand sign and proceed to touch Naruto stomach then Minato start to charge up over Naruto and Yang Kurama seem to start to transfer over to Naruto.

Kakashi: Do whatever needed to save Naruto 4th Hokage, he is the future of the ninja world. I can handle Zetsu.

Black Zetsu: Ha Ha it's over

Kakashi: You should be caution, to underestimate me.

Black Zetsu: No that not what I meant.

Madara drop down on the scene.

Black Zetsu: That is what I was referring to and by the way the future of the ninja world preside with Madara.

Madara: I thought that the 9 tail felt incomplete.

Madara snatches the Yang Kurama out of Minato, with his bare hand and absorb him.

Sakura: No you bastard, someone stop him.

Madara start to walk in the direction of Black Zetsu/Obito. Gaara use a sand attack toward Madara and at the same time Kakashi and Minato throw a kunan at Madara. Without any extra movement on Madara part, two feet away from him they all drop to the ground.

Madara: Time for you to pay me back Obito, with my other eye and your life.

Sakura: No this can't be, Naruto is dead.

Minato: My son Nooo!

Minato turns toward Madara, with a piss off face.

Sakura: No I want let this be.

Gaara: What can you do Sakura we lost.

Sakura: I can use the jutsu, that Chiyo use to bring you back to life, by sacrificing my life for Naruto. That the least I could do, to make sure Naruto become Hokage and change the world.

Madara turn around as if he feel a present.

Madara: I thought I killed you.

Sakura start to perform the jutsu and out of nowhere Sasuke appear (as if a ghost).

Sakura: Sasuke

The back of Sasuke head is show again, while Sasuke look in Naruto direction.

Sasuke: I knew I felt you

Naruto seem to disappear and reappear totally unharmed and alive.

Sakura: Naruto is that really you

Naruto: Yes, what happen.

Madara: To think that you could not only project Izangi to someone else, but also not lose a eye. Those are some very unique eyes you have.

The page finally show Sasuke face and he has the Spiral Sharingan or Juubi Sharinnigan.

Madara: But do you really think that you could defeat me. You should of stay dead young Uchiha.

Sasuke: I will be the one to change the ninja world and you are just nothing but a bolder in my path.

The end of the chapter.

How close did I get on my prediction last week so far.

I knew that Kishi wouldn't just be lazy and give Naruto the yang half of Kurama chakra at this point (when it would of been total BS, if he didn't just have the same power as yin Kurama) and the same go for Sasuke getting the rinnigan. Madara already have the rinnigan and will be way more experience than Sasuke in using it (Sasuke needed time to fully learn his MS power and he is a genius) and Madara have a almost full power Juubi, so how do just yang Kurama compete with that.

When you make a villain as OP as Madara, you need a whole new never before seen power up for your main characters (that manga 101). Naruto have to use all the tail beast chakra that he was giving by all the tail beast to create a new sage mode and Sasuke have to get Spiral Sharingan eyes or the Juubi Sharinnigan eyes to take Madara the sage of the 6 paths 2014 down at this point.

 

[kmw1811]

Just before I go to sleep, I can't even think anymore :vincent:

What the F**K is going on??? Who's the mystery guy and what the f**k is gonna happen to Naruto now??? I'M SO CONFUSED!!! :nuts:

 

[kmw1811]

I know everyone will flame me when i say this but... i highly doubt madara is getting that other half..

No, I agree...They're gonna tear BZ apart...

 

[Deadai]

Re: Lawl, tenten to seal madara in amber pot

greatest theory ever.

 

[Gdamon]

Re: Lawl, tenten to seal madara in amber pot

I would put a tattoo of her on my chest....

 

[Seventh Sama]

No, I agree...They're gonna tear BZ apart...

Im guessing obito will try to resist black zetsu and possibly have kakashi try to kamui snipe madara. in which minato might be able to sever black zetsu or something.

 

[Reycom394]

Obvious Foreshadowing is Obvious.

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