[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 627 Discussion and 628 Predictions
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My prediction for the final battle is that after the war is finally over,there will be a sasuke vs naruto only that orochimaru will finally take over sasuke's body combining it with zetsu's body I.e senju DNA giving sasule the final power up,The RINNEGAN.cause that's the only way insee sasuke turning evil again and that is oro taking over his body which means sasuke will have the snake sage mode,oros skills,rinnegan and senju powers.could have made it a thread if I couldso what do you guyz think??
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
I read it quite fast, and I can say I agree with most of the points. I watched a guy's review on youtube which was pretty similar to this and agreed with that, so I agree with you as well.
My big complaint is that Sasuke's decision was taken TOO fast. A panel filled with a shit ton of flashbacks, and then "bingo!" he decides to be logical again. I didn't like that at all. The outcome was to be expected, but there had to be a transition period towards that.
And happiness, happiness and love everywhere. We are all happy and motivated! Let's go to war! Come on....
And let's pose on top of our sculptured heads! It's not like people die all over the place right now.
I read it quite fast, and I can say I agree with most of the points. I watched a guy's review on youtube which was pretty similar to this and agreed with that, so I agree with you as well.
My big complaint is that Sasuke's decision was taken TOO fast. A panel filled with a shit ton of flashbacks, and then "bingo!" he decides to be logical again. I didn't like that at all. The outcome was to be expected, but there had to be a transition period towards that.
And happiness, happiness and love everywhere. We are all happy and motivated! Let's go to war! Come on....
And let's pose on top of our sculptured heads! It's not like people die all over the place right now.
NinJaGirl99
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1. Naruto's most obsessive purpose was to bring Sasuke back to Konoha. While Sasuke seems to no longer want to destroy Konoha he hasn't indicated he is going back home. Naruto will have a role to play in Sasuke's complete conversion to the good side.
2. I think they will still fight each other. I just don't know the details. Even if they are no longer enemies they are still rivals.
3. Oro always looked gay
They are all heading for the battlefield now. There is a lot to be curious about. What is happening to the other kage? What about Kabuto and Anko? Who will fight who when they get to the battle? Who else will die? Why did Tobi create edo tensei? I could go on forever but I think you get the idea.
Keep reading. I don't think you will be disappointed.
Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
1) Suigetsu was never a loyal part of team taka.He just went with Sasuke cause he didn't have much of a choice.He is most likely a missing nin,his goal was to gather the sword and being with Sasuke gives him a better opportunity to achieve his goals.Since Sasuke resurrected Oro his been searching for a chance to get away.
2) I didn't really got any Itachi wank out of this chapter.All the kages had regrets because that was their role,to care more about the village than them selves and take the blame even for things they don't need to.Tobirama is just too cool to do this
3)Oro was always a Sasuke fan, and com on do you think Oro's intention would be reveled in one panel???
4)Sasuke is not a good guy all of a sudden.He just said he will fight for what his brother believed,that doesn't mean that he will return to Konoha or that he doesn't have beef with the elders.He puts that aside cause if you remember,Itachi also didn't trust Tobi and he wanted him dead.Defeating Tobito is part of his brother will.
Edit: Other than that I pretty much agree *_*
1) Suigetsu was never a loyal part of team taka.He just went with Sasuke cause he didn't have much of a choice.He is most likely a missing nin,his goal was to gather the sword and being with Sasuke gives him a better opportunity to achieve his goals.Since Sasuke resurrected Oro his been searching for a chance to get away.
2) I didn't really got any Itachi wank out of this chapter.All the kages had regrets because that was their role,to care more about the village than them selves and take the blame even for things they don't need to.Tobirama is just too cool to do this
3)Oro was always a Sasuke fan, and com on do you think Oro's intention would be reveled in one panel???
4)Sasuke is not a good guy all of a sudden.He just said he will fight for what his brother believed,that doesn't mean that he will return to Konoha or that he doesn't have beef with the elders.He puts that aside cause if you remember,Itachi also didn't trust Tobi and he wanted him dead.Defeating Tobito is part of his brother will.
Edit: Other than that I pretty much agree *_*
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
I agree with your thoughts !
I agree with your thoughts !
Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
I pretty much agree with you on the last point, Sasuke turned good too soon and also the fact that Naruto only has one fangirl and Sasuke has many... in my whole life with manga I've never seen such an uncool character like Naruto. This guy no matter he kills the biggest villain in movies, OVAs and manga he just doen't become cool... he lacks coolness...
Just think about the coolness Goku had, Luffy has, Ichigo has... no one in NV is not cool like Naruto... imean even Kiba becomes cooler then him sometimes
I pretty much agree with you on the last point, Sasuke turned good too soon and also the fact that Naruto only has one fangirl and Sasuke has many... in my whole life with manga I've never seen such an uncool character like Naruto. This guy no matter he kills the biggest villain in movies, OVAs and manga he just doen't become cool... he lacks coolness...
Just think about the coolness Goku had, Luffy has, Ichigo has... no one in NV is not cool like Naruto... imean even Kiba becomes cooler then him sometimes
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aggreeeeh.. gonna be the MOST BADASS battle bro.. hope kishi can deliver it to climax
NinJaGirl99
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
@Chiharu
4)Sasuke is not a good guy all of a sudden.He just said he will fight for what his brother believed,that doesn't mean that he will return to Konoha or that he doesn't have beef with the elders.He puts that aside cause if you remember,Itachi also didn't trust Tobi and he wanted him dead.Defeating Tobito is part of his brother will.
You are absolutely correct especially about Sasuke.
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@Chiharu
4)Sasuke is not a good guy all of a sudden.He just said he will fight for what his brother believed,that doesn't mean that he will return to Konoha or that he doesn't have beef with the elders.He puts that aside cause if you remember,Itachi also didn't trust Tobi and he wanted him dead.Defeating Tobito is part of his brother will.
You are absolutely correct especially about Sasuke.
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
Suigetsu was lol, he wants to be the leader of the new 7 swordsmen but then he acts like this lol
And I think when Sasuke finds out Minato is Naruto's dad he might get a little mad/suprised.
Suigetsu was lol, he wants to be the leader of the new 7 swordsmen but then he acts like this lol
And I think when Sasuke finds out Minato is Naruto's dad he might get a little mad/suprised.
Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
Bro.... I read your entire review.... I agree on some points like Tobirama being realistic and Karin being annoying....
You said that the Hokages saying that every thing was their fault and Kishi wanked Itachi.... Well I don't think so.... Hashi,Hiruzen and Minato are good guys.... legends perhaps.... and being humble and accountible is one important quality that guys like them have.... I mean come on bro.... It's a true hero's trait to say...."okay my actions have resulted in this and this and now I will get things on track again...."
About Sasuke's change.... It's not sudden at all Bro.... Remember in the beginning of Part 2 when Sasuke defeated a bunch of ANBU Black Ops.... He didnt kill any of them.... In fact when Oro asked him to kill them, Sasuke said Itachi was the only one he wanted to kill.... It was his obsession to kill Itachi but he was shaken badly by the truth later on when Obito told him everything.... I think after that point Sasuke did everthing like attack on Kages,Killer B cause he had lost it.... he was mentally shaken to the point that he went on venting out his frustration on anyone who came in his way.... He was disturbed mentally but not evil.... And the fact that he even considered of reviving the Hokages and asking them is proof enough that he had changed but needed to talk to someone to clear his inner doubts and come to a proper decision.... =D =D
Bro.... I read your entire review.... I agree on some points like Tobirama being realistic and Karin being annoying....
You said that the Hokages saying that every thing was their fault and Kishi wanked Itachi.... Well I don't think so.... Hashi,Hiruzen and Minato are good guys.... legends perhaps.... and being humble and accountible is one important quality that guys like them have.... I mean come on bro.... It's a true hero's trait to say...."okay my actions have resulted in this and this and now I will get things on track again...."
About Sasuke's change.... It's not sudden at all Bro.... Remember in the beginning of Part 2 when Sasuke defeated a bunch of ANBU Black Ops.... He didnt kill any of them.... In fact when Oro asked him to kill them, Sasuke said Itachi was the only one he wanted to kill.... It was his obsession to kill Itachi but he was shaken badly by the truth later on when Obito told him everything.... I think after that point Sasuke did everthing like attack on Kages,Killer B cause he had lost it.... he was mentally shaken to the point that he went on venting out his frustration on anyone who came in his way.... He was disturbed mentally but not evil.... And the fact that he even considered of reviving the Hokages and asking them is proof enough that he had changed but needed to talk to someone to clear his inner doubts and come to a proper decision.... =D =D
yeah i am hoping for that!1. Naruto's most obsessive purpose was to bring Sasuke back to Konoha. While Sasuke seems to no longer want to destroy Konoha he hasn't indicated he is going back home. Naruto will have a role to play in Sasuke's complete conversion to the good side.
2. I think they will still fight each other. I just don't know the details. Even if they are no longer enemies they are still rivals.
3. Oro always looked gay
They are all heading for the battlefield now. There is a lot to be curious about. What is happening to the other kage? What about Kabuto and Anko? Who will fight who when they get to the battle? Who else will die? Why did Tobi create edo tensei? I could go on forever but I think you get the idea.
Keep reading. I don't think you will be disappointed.
btw, the i just hope that the upcoming battle is most epic... kishi don't try to rush it...
NinJaGirl99
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
Itachi-wank? Really? Itachi meant the world to Sasuke so it seems natural he is the focus. This is hardly what I would call wank but wev.
I have no opinion on Suigetsu, but as for Karin she has been a Sasuke-fangirl from day one. Why would she let a little stabbing incident affect her opinion of Sasuke?
As for Minato talking to Sasuke. It didn't happen yet because the time isn't right. How more effective would Minato's revelations be if they happened with Obito there in person?
How can this be a bad ending when it hasn't ended yet? As for calming down, you could use a little calming down too. To get all this worked up over a manga isn't healthy. Hate or love it, read it or don't, the story will go on with or without you according to Kishimoto.
I don't think Sasuke's redemption happened fast. Sasuke has been on this path for a while. What I think Kishimoto did poorly was portray what was going on in his mind while he was deciding what to do. So now it could look like he just suddenly changed his mind. He has not said he would return to Konoha so there is still more work left for Naruto to do there. They are still rivals and what do rivals do? Fight each other.
Itachi-wank? Really? Itachi meant the world to Sasuke so it seems natural he is the focus. This is hardly what I would call wank but wev.
I have no opinion on Suigetsu, but as for Karin she has been a Sasuke-fangirl from day one. Why would she let a little stabbing incident affect her opinion of Sasuke?
As for Minato talking to Sasuke. It didn't happen yet because the time isn't right. How more effective would Minato's revelations be if they happened with Obito there in person?
How can this be a bad ending when it hasn't ended yet? As for calming down, you could use a little calming down too. To get all this worked up over a manga isn't healthy. Hate or love it, read it or don't, the story will go on with or without you according to Kishimoto.
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
Sasuke showed not once before this chapter that he was redeeming slowly... Not once! Even Orochimaru was surprised!
Sasuke showed not once before this chapter that he was redeeming slowly... Not once! Even Orochimaru was surprised!
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
I liked those things too, really. c:
~So let me now start with the stuff I do not like...:~
Suigetsu, while I see where you're coming from, isn't really the most loyal group member of Taka. He had his own goals and ambitions from the beginning. I personally think that Kishi brought his character back so much from where he was though that he's basically like how he was when he was first introduced. This can be exemplified by Suigetsu trying to talk Orochimaru into attacking Konoha while it's unguarded, as well as some other things. However Kishi could have eased him as a character back into this regression better, instead of making him run for it to re-introduce Karin.
True enough, but they did all make mistakes of some sort. Hashirama was too easy on Madara, Hiruzen was too easy on Orochimaru and Danzo, and Minato.. well, I wouldn't say he failed. He did his best; he's just a modest dude. It is true that this chapter really exemplifies Itachi's non-mistake-making personality, but I wouldn't say that it was the absolute worst that's been done. Now we all know that Kishi loves his Uchihas and for good reason. The Sharingan is really a very fun concept to play with as a writer, but he's really going a bit far with this. I know the chapter is based around Sasuke realizing his faults and shows how Itachi played into that, but it's not enough of an excuse. That probably would have been enough given Hashirama's previous talk of him. However, it's not entirely baseless. The whole Hashirama saying Itachi was a better shinobi is partly true, considering that Itachi made nearly no mistakes through any of his actions and planned them accordingly. However, Itachi deemed himself a failure in his own mind since he attempted to do everything alone. He is not the perfect shinobi in this way, and I think we'll see an example of a perfect shinobi soon enough.
All I'll say about Orochimaru is.. he's sneaky. He's a plotting kinda guy. No matter how he acts now, did you see that smile of his? He's planning something for sure. Plus, you can't forget how evil the guy was in Part 1.
Now I agree entirely on this one. Karin acting the way she did was completely uncalled for, but she IS mentally unstable. Regardless though, it may have had meaning. That panel with Sasuke being cuddled by Karin shows his absolutely real face. He has never made that kind of face when a girl has flirted with him throughout the entire series thus far. It has proven in my mind, that how he feels is genuine. Maybe that was the point of it, or Karin is just a waste of a character.
About this, Sasuke will most likely find out about Minato and Naruto's relationship at their arrival to the battlefield. Naruto'll probably go "Dad!!" and they'll have a father-son moment. But.. Kishimoto is building up to something. I don't know what, but he is. Things seemed to go almost too well in this chapter, yknow? Maybe it's just me. I personally don't think Sasuke will turn back but there's always that possibility.
~And now my biggest negative point, about Sasuke's decision to chance minds all of the sudden...:~
Sasuke's all about sudden decisions. Look at the Five Kage Summit Arc. During Bee's capture Sasuke still cared about Taka. When he found out about Danzo though, he went batsh*t. However, you have to remember that Sasuke was never "evil". He was just a lost kid who didn't know what to do with his life. When he had a goal, he didn't let anything get in his way. The whole purpose of Hashirama's story was for Sasuke to find out what his goal now was. About that Naruto/Sasuke fight, Kishimoto did promise it to us. I do think it'll happen. Not sure what circumstances it'll be under, but regardless it'd be nice to see them actually fight again.
I will close my reply with a simple thought. Maybe Kishimoto decided he didn't want Sasuke to go this way? Maybe, just maybe, he wanted things to go differently. Either way, we were promised two more years of Naruto, so it can't be over after this war.
Thanks for reading and inviting me to share my thoughts ^^
~Let me start with the positive stuff from chapter 627:~
I liked those things too, really. c:
~So let me now start with the stuff I do not like...:~
Suigetsu, while I see where you're coming from, isn't really the most loyal group member of Taka. He had his own goals and ambitions from the beginning. I personally think that Kishi brought his character back so much from where he was though that he's basically like how he was when he was first introduced. This can be exemplified by Suigetsu trying to talk Orochimaru into attacking Konoha while it's unguarded, as well as some other things. However Kishi could have eased him as a character back into this regression better, instead of making him run for it to re-introduce Karin.
True enough, but they did all make mistakes of some sort. Hashirama was too easy on Madara, Hiruzen was too easy on Orochimaru and Danzo, and Minato.. well, I wouldn't say he failed. He did his best; he's just a modest dude. It is true that this chapter really exemplifies Itachi's non-mistake-making personality, but I wouldn't say that it was the absolute worst that's been done. Now we all know that Kishi loves his Uchihas and for good reason. The Sharingan is really a very fun concept to play with as a writer, but he's really going a bit far with this. I know the chapter is based around Sasuke realizing his faults and shows how Itachi played into that, but it's not enough of an excuse. That probably would have been enough given Hashirama's previous talk of him. However, it's not entirely baseless. The whole Hashirama saying Itachi was a better shinobi is partly true, considering that Itachi made nearly no mistakes through any of his actions and planned them accordingly. However, Itachi deemed himself a failure in his own mind since he attempted to do everything alone. He is not the perfect shinobi in this way, and I think we'll see an example of a perfect shinobi soon enough.
All I'll say about Orochimaru is.. he's sneaky. He's a plotting kinda guy. No matter how he acts now, did you see that smile of his? He's planning something for sure. Plus, you can't forget how evil the guy was in Part 1.
Now I agree entirely on this one. Karin acting the way she did was completely uncalled for, but she IS mentally unstable. Regardless though, it may have had meaning. That panel with Sasuke being cuddled by Karin shows his absolutely real face. He has never made that kind of face when a girl has flirted with him throughout the entire series thus far. It has proven in my mind, that how he feels is genuine. Maybe that was the point of it, or Karin is just a waste of a character.
About this, Sasuke will most likely find out about Minato and Naruto's relationship at their arrival to the battlefield. Naruto'll probably go "Dad!!" and they'll have a father-son moment. But.. Kishimoto is building up to something. I don't know what, but he is. Things seemed to go almost too well in this chapter, yknow? Maybe it's just me. I personally don't think Sasuke will turn back but there's always that possibility.
~And now my biggest negative point, about Sasuke's decision to chance minds all of the sudden...:~
Sasuke's all about sudden decisions. Look at the Five Kage Summit Arc. During Bee's capture Sasuke still cared about Taka. When he found out about Danzo though, he went batsh*t. However, you have to remember that Sasuke was never "evil". He was just a lost kid who didn't know what to do with his life. When he had a goal, he didn't let anything get in his way. The whole purpose of Hashirama's story was for Sasuke to find out what his goal now was. About that Naruto/Sasuke fight, Kishimoto did promise it to us. I do think it'll happen. Not sure what circumstances it'll be under, but regardless it'd be nice to see them actually fight again.
I will close my reply with a simple thought. Maybe Kishimoto decided he didn't want Sasuke to go this way? Maybe, just maybe, he wanted things to go differently. Either way, we were promised two more years of Naruto, so it can't be over after this war.
Thanks for reading and inviting me to share my thoughts ^^
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Re: My thoughts on chapter 627... (and why Sasuke's decision is poorly handled)
Huh, so my thread is now replaced here... So a thread with a lot of effort is moved but other stuff is ok to remain... Logic?
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