[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 627 Discussion and 628 Predictions
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UBER EPIC CHAPTER. Can't wait to see everyones reaction when Sasuke and the Hokages reach the battle field. The only thing that I hope doesn't happen is that Kishi stretches this out for so long that it takes forever for them to reach the battle field.
To elaborate on some things that people keep mentioning...
1) Sasuke's change of ideals.
Sasuke has always been a blank page, ready to be coloured in any colour. Obito was succesful in colouring his page into a black, hateful colour. However, this changed when he confronted his Edo Tensei'd brother. Itachi told him the truth, which honestly touched Sasuke to his very core. Sasuke, however, was still is a ruse of his state prior to meeting Itachi, namely a state of hatred, destruction and loneliness.
From this context, he took the words of Itachi and placed it in this scenario. The result: obliterate the Village Hidden in the Leaves.
This ruse slowly dimmed down, however. Itachi said a last goodbye, Orochimaru came and the old team of Sasuke appeared. This took him out of his ruse (started by Itachi's presence and speech) and brought him back to the state of blank page. This time, however, the blank page started from the idea of love, the ideals that his brother left him. He will always be loved by his brother, no matter what.
Starting from this context, the Hokage's showed up. Sasuke got a speech from Hashirama, the strongest person to have ever lived in the shinobi world other than its very founder. Sasuke has always been an "avenger", but this doesn't always mean being bad. As an avenger, being the strongest is what he desires, so that his ideals can become reality. His goal, like he did with Orochimaru, is to learn from the strongest, to become stronger himself.
Now that he met the Hokages, the very leaders of the village his brother loved so much, and got a speech from them, his page was coloured in yet another colour: love.
Now, with the context of the eternal love granted by his brother, Sasuke realised that the village is what matters. The children, the elderly, ... The village is what drived his brother, and the Hokages. It is the very thing that made both his brother AND the Hokages the strongest beings in the Shinobi world.
Now that the revelation had been completed, it could NOT be anything other than accepting and loving that Sasuke feels now.
His change of ideals was NOT a sudden one, it was a very, very long process. One that involved understanding and patience.
2) Orochimaru's change of ideals.
Orochimaru was in Kabuto this whole time. With it, he noticed a lot of different things, different views and different opinions, feelings, emotions, that he would have never experienced if he stayed as Orochimaru. He discovered how damaging his ideals and visions were, through the exact copying of Kabuto, and realised that this was no way to live a worthy life. A shinobi isn't what he used to think. Strength isn't obtained by how he used to think.
Not to mention, Izanagi also had an effect on Orochimaru. He might of have escaped it, but he did understand the basic faults and wrongs he was making, thanks to this technique.
Together with Sasuke's change of ideals, he had the perfect opportunity to change as well. The common feeling of friendship that was shared at that very moment was an extra push for the change for both. Old enemies are new friends, all along.
3) Karin's sudden forgiveness.
She's a girl that is in love. Get over it...
1) Sasuke's change of ideals.
Sasuke has always been a blank page, ready to be coloured in any colour. Obito was succesful in colouring his page into a black, hateful colour. However, this changed when he confronted his Edo Tensei'd brother. Itachi told him the truth, which honestly touched Sasuke to his very core. Sasuke, however, was still is a ruse of his state prior to meeting Itachi, namely a state of hatred, destruction and loneliness.
From this context, he took the words of Itachi and placed it in this scenario. The result: obliterate the Village Hidden in the Leaves.
This ruse slowly dimmed down, however. Itachi said a last goodbye, Orochimaru came and the old team of Sasuke appeared. This took him out of his ruse (started by Itachi's presence and speech) and brought him back to the state of blank page. This time, however, the blank page started from the idea of love, the ideals that his brother left him. He will always be loved by his brother, no matter what.
Starting from this context, the Hokage's showed up. Sasuke got a speech from Hashirama, the strongest person to have ever lived in the shinobi world other than its very founder. Sasuke has always been an "avenger", but this doesn't always mean being bad. As an avenger, being the strongest is what he desires, so that his ideals can become reality. His goal, like he did with Orochimaru, is to learn from the strongest, to become stronger himself.
Now that he met the Hokages, the very leaders of the village his brother loved so much, and got a speech from them, his page was coloured in yet another colour: love.
Now, with the context of the eternal love granted by his brother, Sasuke realised that the village is what matters. The children, the elderly, ... The village is what drived his brother, and the Hokages. It is the very thing that made both his brother AND the Hokages the strongest beings in the Shinobi world.
Now that the revelation had been completed, it could NOT be anything other than accepting and loving that Sasuke feels now.
His change of ideals was NOT a sudden one, it was a very, very long process. One that involved understanding and patience.
2) Orochimaru's change of ideals.
Orochimaru was in Kabuto this whole time. With it, he noticed a lot of different things, different views and different opinions, feelings, emotions, that he would have never experienced if he stayed as Orochimaru. He discovered how damaging his ideals and visions were, through the exact copying of Kabuto, and realised that this was no way to live a worthy life. A shinobi isn't what he used to think. Strength isn't obtained by how he used to think.
Not to mention, Izanagi also had an effect on Orochimaru. He might of have escaped it, but he did understand the basic faults and wrongs he was making, thanks to this technique.
Together with Sasuke's change of ideals, he had the perfect opportunity to change as well. The common feeling of friendship that was shared at that very moment was an extra push for the change for both. Old enemies are new friends, all along.
3) Karin's sudden forgiveness.
She's a girl that is in love. Get over it...
Although I am happy for Sasuke turning good I can't help but imagine that Madara's genjutsu will still occur and Naruto and Sasuke will have to find a way out. But all in all I am glad that Sasuke is willing to fight for his village again 
DD 5/5
DD 5/5
Kishi fooled us all can't believe it sasuke finally woke up orochimaru with a change of heart which I still don't trust him but over all give this chapter a 10 period but Karin should get donkey of the day this man tried to kill her and she that forgiving so quickly what ever but it was cool how the second knew she was an uzumaki listen what if Karin is really naruto sister would that shock the naruto world?
IchIchiNaru
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I think I know how the next chapter will play out...Naruto is going to be fighting Madara and when Madara attacks him, his dad is going to jump in front of him and defend him and be like, Hello son, or something like that, i bet...i hope. XD
Dude, it was a good chapter. You might be my senpai here, but it was good. And Sasuke didn't change his beliefs in two f*cking panels. Remember when team 7 was first assembled and they spoke about their dreams and hopes for the future? Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi and, wait this is where it gets good: REVIVE HIS CLAN. He was confused since the fight with Kabuto cuz he had no more reasons to destroy the Leaf. I actually enjoyed today's chapter, it was one of the best chapters so far, so dont start bashing characters just because you dont like them. *_*
Nejibabe92
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I think it would take 3 or 4 chapters give or take, before the hokages show up
I only want to know what minato's reaction would be to seeing obito and how naruto will look when he see his dad
CrimsonFire
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This chapter was a lot better then the harashima flash back
This is no surprise that Sasuke would return to good, though the logic may not make sense lol, still this is good for Sasuke.
The draw backs of Sasuke turning good to me is:
1.It took to long for Sasuke to to turn good, if anything Sasuke should had turn good after his battle with Itachi, instead dragging it out further in the story.
2.This contradicts on what Sasuke said to Naruto about him killing Naruto and everything he stands for
3.Naruto big speech at the kage summit is now irrelevant, now that Sasuke became good on his own
The panel with kages on their faces ready to battle truly was the best part of this chapter. Karin return was random and seeing her just automatically hugging Sasuke after he stabbed her was fail. Orochimaru still can not be trusted.
I give this chapter a 4/5 good setup chapter with the kages
This is no surprise that Sasuke would return to good, though the logic may not make sense lol, still this is good for Sasuke.
The draw backs of Sasuke turning good to me is:
1.It took to long for Sasuke to to turn good, if anything Sasuke should had turn good after his battle with Itachi, instead dragging it out further in the story.
2.This contradicts on what Sasuke said to Naruto about him killing Naruto and everything he stands for
3.Naruto big speech at the kage summit is now irrelevant, now that Sasuke became good on his own
The panel with kages on their faces ready to battle truly was the best part of this chapter. Karin return was random and seeing her just automatically hugging Sasuke after he stabbed her was fail. Orochimaru still can not be trusted.
I give this chapter a 4/5 good setup chapter with the kages
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5/5 I cant waiiiiiiiiit!. Ive always wanted to see Minato battling along side his son. And Hashi vs Madaraa 3?!?!?!?! LETS DO THIS!
An epic chapter. Hashirama got to see how well Konoha has grown. Minato has a present for Naruto. Orochimaru and the 3rd have patched things up a bit. Tobirama finally gets to take out all the anger he had towards Madara.
Kagami Uchiha has been said to be Shisui's(Itachi's bff) father further explaining my thread about how Itachi may have vaguely known of the Hashi/Madaraa story Hashi just told sasuke.
Hence resulting in Itachi's final decision as a leaf ninja.
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An epic chapter. Hashirama got to see how well Konoha has grown. Minato has a present for Naruto. Orochimaru and the 3rd have patched things up a bit. Tobirama finally gets to take out all the anger he had towards Madara.
Kagami Uchiha has been said to be Shisui's(Itachi's bff) father further explaining my thread about how Itachi may have vaguely known of the Hashi/Madaraa story Hashi just told sasuke.
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Hence resulting in Itachi's final decision as a leaf ninja.
4/5 just because of the hype for next chapters. I really liked it to some point, it put a smile on my face to see Sasuke changing sides, but I think it was a bit to hasty. I was expecting him to help in the war, but wasn't expecting a full turn of mind, was hoping more of a new journey for him, learning to 'love' the village an believe in it again.
Orochimaru's talk was pure crap!!! The guy's supossed to be pure evil, but, unlesse the scanlations are wrong, he is not just interested in Sasuke's resolves as experiment, he's making resolves about his life to, and just takes away our only villain (Madara and Obito are probably short-lived now). The only one I see now to get on with it is Kabuto, and he doesn't have the power (at least not his own), and we're probably not gonna see new villains (at least stronger than what we've seen).
Excited for next chapters, worried about the series as a whole.
Cheers
Orochimaru's talk was pure crap!!! The guy's supossed to be pure evil, but, unlesse the scanlations are wrong, he is not just interested in Sasuke's resolves as experiment, he's making resolves about his life to, and just takes away our only villain (Madara and Obito are probably short-lived now). The only one I see now to get on with it is Kabuto, and he doesn't have the power (at least not his own), and we're probably not gonna see new villains (at least stronger than what we've seen).
Excited for next chapters, worried about the series as a whole.
Cheers
piercethejen
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Bless the Kishi :ls:
i think the gift is the other half of kyuubi's chakra remember minato sealed it to him self.YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!
5/5
Glad to see that the hokages are finally heading to the battlefield!
I think Naruto will receive the knowledge on FTG, Minato did say he had a "gift" for him.
any thoughts?
p.s. first post!
msbishop92
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Incredible chapter. As dedicated followers to the manga I'm sure we're all well aware of the feeling. Everything in this chapter was just A+. Lots of good revelations, and also a lot of good questions. No chapter has managed to strike the feelz like this one since Naruto and Kurama became bros. I predict a lot of epic teamwork and innovations. Time will slowly begin to shed light on whats going to happen, so I wont get myself too excited about things to come.
My biggest worry is what Orochimaru is planning. That grin on pg.12 had "don't trust me" written all over it. I think he's eventually going to eff up the happier mood of things.
His quest for Sasuke's bod is still a-go-go if you ask me.
My biggest worry is what Orochimaru is planning. That grin on pg.12 had "don't trust me" written all over it. I think he's eventually going to eff up the happier mood of things.
His quest for Sasuke's bod is still a-go-go if you ask me.
I have a new-found respect for Sasuke after this chapter. He finally made a logical decision based on the information he was given by those that came before him. I was really thinking he was just an irational psycopath for the past 600 chapters
Did anyone notice that Hashirama looked to his brother and asked about Hiraishin? Haven't we been told for like the longest time that Minato invented Hiraishin? I mean, its what he's famous for. We know Tobirama has a spacetime jutsu, but how on earth is it the same jutsu Minato uses?
On another note, the war is over. Madara damn sure cant beat like 7 of the strongest shinobi im history at the same time; as well as the rest of the allied shinobi force.
Did anyone notice that Hashirama looked to his brother and asked about Hiraishin? Haven't we been told for like the longest time that Minato invented Hiraishin? I mean, its what he's famous for. We know Tobirama has a spacetime jutsu, but how on earth is it the same jutsu Minato uses?
On another note, the war is over. Madara damn sure cant beat like 7 of the strongest shinobi im history at the same time; as well as the rest of the allied shinobi force.
It's a nice chapter. Sasuke's change was funny, two panels and bam... he's good. Karin just proved that she's just stupid. Why Hokages didn't mention that the village was destroyed(it can be seen)? they were not curious about it? Shame.
I don't like how Sasuke's arrival will take all the credit for destroying the Juubi. It's Naruto who almost won this war. Now, everyone will just forgive him...
Also, I know it's shonen but damn... some bad guys would be nice. There IS an evil in this world and Kishi is not showing that, even in Disney movies there is a villain. And if Tobi ressurect everyone, which is possible, I will just lose hope for Kishi.
I don't like how Sasuke's arrival will take all the credit for destroying the Juubi. It's Naruto who almost won this war. Now, everyone will just forgive him...
Also, I know it's shonen but damn... some bad guys would be nice. There IS an evil in this world and Kishi is not showing that, even in Disney movies there is a villain. And if Tobi ressurect everyone, which is possible, I will just lose hope for Kishi.
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