[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 626 Discussion and 627 Predictions

[vanella90]

I believe you are interpreting this statement incorrectly. Once Madara left the village and began to attack it and try to destroy it he lost his right to be considered part of the village any more. Hashirama was not talking about the founding of the village he was saying Madara was no longer a part of it any more.

I disagree with your statement about Senju being tyrants. Not even Tobirama and his prejudices rise to that level. The only tyrants I see are the ones who think they can put the whole world under a genjutsu to create a world that suits their desires and enslaves all the people living in it. The only tyrants I see are Madara and Obito.

Dude, THANK YOU!!! Exactly what I was thinking

 

[schenka]

Okay! What's going to happen next!?

I wonder if Sasuke is just going to scoff at everything Hashi said like: "*snort* nice heart-felled story their bro, but I'm still gonna be a **** and not take anything from your story and continue to repeat history, peace."

 

[l Forgotten l]

I liked and found it enjoyable....now back to the war.

 

[kunlebade]

Good chapter. worth 5/5

 

[Black Ace]

No, they both are the founders, he may have chosen a different road, that doesn't let Hashi claim that peace was through his sole effort alone.

Though I wonder, if Naruto would ever take the choice of killing Sasuke.

Yea they bothh are the founder but madara was going to destroy the village. Sme one has to stop him

And naruto is trying to help sasuke if it come to of kill him it mean by saving the village

 

[Pretium]

Guys this chapter was messed up:

Hashirama even took the credit of the village for himself that proves my point! The Senju Clan is a bunch of self-conceited individuals that enjoy being tyrants.

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No Way. Madara Left The Village, Forsook It, Then Kept Attacking It!! Hashirama Had A Right To Leave Madara Out. Hashirama Loved The Village, Madara Hated It. But I'm Sure It Pained Hashirama To Do What He Did

 

[narutodarkfox]

was a awesome chapter 5/5

 

[Black Ace]

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I dont think Madara used Izanagi because you need the combination of both senju cells(body) and uchiha cells(body) to do it. I think he just collected Hashirama wooden clone left after the fight and somehow used it to heal his wounds and tried to survive and he did. I think the clone Hashirama left back was the key. Anyone thinks otherwise?

What thehell are you talking about, first of all madara was dead at that spot. He fell to the gound he did not have any more enrgy to get up at get hashi cell or DNA. And second of all madara was reanimated because he was dead and dead person only can be reanimated. I rest my case.

 

[-immortal-]

I Dont know what Sasuke Awnser is Gonne Be...but he Better Fight Naruto or Ramen Guy Kills Him...
:|

 

[NaruSasuRival]

To those who doubt that Hashirama really stabbed Madara, check the following:

First, until Tobi appears, everyone in the Narutoverse was certain that Madara was dead, killed by Hashirama. The reason is that after that last battle, Madara never show up again officially in any country. Madara never attacked the leaf. In my opinion, after what Hashirama told him about the village no longer being theirs but Hashirama's, if Madara woke up healthy and recovered completely after taking Hashi's DNA,the first thing he would do would be to destroy the leaf unless Tobirama is stronger than him. This is the logic I can see in the entire story. The reason is that the greatest enemy of the moon eye plan has always been Konoha.

Second, one should not take Tobi's words for absolute truth. Tobi had to make think seems true so that others can fear him. When Madara said that he took Hashirama's cell and cultivated them, he never mention that he took it with strategy, or that he planned to take them. Similarly, Madara never mention that he implanted Hashirama's DNA to obtain Rinnegan. I am bringing these argument because some people think that Madara engineered everything. It might be simply that someone healed Madara's wound with Hashi's clone, or that Madara just found that the clone cell could heal him by accident by trying to place them on him after observing Hashirama's recovery many time. Also notice when Madara patched Obito with Hashi's cell. He used no medical techniques. It was blunt patching with needle or piece of wood. Then Hashirama's cell attached themselves to the body.

No matter how Madara escape death, it wasn't Izanagi. Otherwise, one of his eyes would have been destroyed. The post below proves it: Madara's wound was real.

he didn't use izanagi because that's the wound that he puts hashi's cells in

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[mabanae]

how the hell hashirama will die ?

 

[Docas11]

great chapter from a personal point flash backs aint bad as long as they cover the gaps we require info from. Naruto will fight sasuke but will he have to kill him to defeat him? because of the repetitive outcomes most likely they bout will not end with sasuke death. sasuke will probably go on some trip around to purify is soul and give uchias a good name.

 

[HyperNin]

The chapter was okay. nothing more. Glad the story is over though. Hopefully we wont have to endure more from the rest of the Kages. Lets see what happens next. Plus I have a feeling that next chapter will be about the battlefield instead of Sasuke and the Kages.

 

[Forget Me Not]

The best chapter in this whole flash back. 4/5
1: imo this chapter proves that Tobirama did not influence Madara's quest for darkness. That wasl always going to be his shinobi path
(so can Naruto actually change Sasuke when Hashirama failed with Madara. imo I think not. Hashirama and Madara had the stronger bond.
2: I loved how Hashirama quicly came to his senses. Tobirama was right in a way, Hashirama started to realise the present is more important. And he had to do what he did to protect the village
3: I love how Madara acknowledged the change in Hashirama, shows the strength of their bond. Sasuke on the other hand is aware of Naruto's potential yet he never acknowledges him.
4: I didn't like how we never got to see Mito who should have been more influential to Hadhirama at that stage where he decided that on that battle he was finally going to kill madara.
5: Interesting how Hashi used a clone. lol trick still works on even the super strong I guess

1: I don't think this chapter necessarily proves that Tobirama didn't play a role in Madara's corruption. It was due to Madara overhearing Tobirama and his proposal of democracy (along with his persecution of the Uchiha) that made him decide that it wouldn't be in the Uchiha Clan's best interest to remain in the village (hence he warned them and they refused to listen to him). He realized his "true" dream after he had deciphered more of the Uchiha Tablet and decided to embark on his quest to obtain Hashi's DNA.

2: Just as Naruto is currently faced with the ultimatum of either killing Sasuke or lose the village, so was Hashirama. Their resolves are different though. Naruto said they're both going to die while Hashirama attempted to kill Madara. He had no other choice in that instance. He didn't just kill him in cold blood or anything.

3: Sasuke did acknowledge Naruto during the VoTE battle... hence he put his headband on which is a symbol of them fighting on equal terms.

5: Madara said he was able to see through the wood clones in the Kage fight. Perhaps that was a hint that he anticipated it in the past. After all, he did live to acquire Hashirama's DNA and the Rinnengan. I'm thinking Izanagi played a role in this somehow.

 

[Abnormalites]

Finally! Back to the main story!

 

[tife]

IT IS NOT IZANAGI........HE HAS THE STAB SCAR ON HIS CHEST!!.....HASHIRAMA WAS NOT UNDER A GENJUSTSU, THAT IS JUST LAME.
Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.While the user remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon themselves while the technique is active into mere "illusions". Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality; physically real and unscathed.
DO YOU NOW SEE WHY THIS IS NOT IZANAGI?

SO PLEASE LEAVE IZANAGI OUT.

 

[Wiseman108]

Madara never made a full recovery, he went into hiding and the only thing keeping him alive was Hashirama's cells.

I don't think the flashbacks are over, Sasuke still has questions to ask. I think he's going to ask the 2nd about the Edo Tensei, and the 4th about the when the 9 tailed fox attacked the village. (He already asked the 3rd about his brother)

The 2nd will probably have flashbacks, but the 4th will probably just mention things we already know from previous flashbacks.

 

[iRefleX]

Hashirama would of died, if Madara never de-activated Sharingan the noob

Props to Hashirama though, fighting 9 tails + Madara is suicide and winning.

 

[Rinne Maseru]

Hmmm, I have a feeling that Sasuke's resolve to destroy Naruto and Konoha will only get stronger. The boy is twisted like that. Even after meeting Itachi he wanted to destroy the village.

I'm also confused at why Madara kept attacking Konoha. Why did he do it?

I've kinda been expecting the same from jump off the flashbacks that sasuke would not change his mind but agree with himself more so.
And well Madara had to of just simply lost his mind once his brother died, he cares of nothing more than reaping vengeance on the Senju though it seemed to look like they progressed so well. Honestly he got what he wanted though, he turned Hashi into himself. Hashirama killed Madara in cold blood.

 

[sandysennin]

My thoughts exactly I liked the history lesson but I wanna know what happens in the present... Can't wait for Sasuke's answer

But we need to know the past in order to understand Sasuke's answer. So, i things the story/flashback was ratear short.

Guys this chapter was messed up:

Hashirama even took the credit of the village for himself that proves my point! The Senju Clan is a bunch of self-conceited individuals that enjoy being tyrants.

Really? Madara was trying to destroy it... Why would he give credit to him?

No, they both are the founders, he may have chosen a different road, that doesn't let Hashi claim that peace was through his sole effort alone.

Though I wonder, if Naruto would ever take the choice of killing Sasuke.

He said he is ready for that choice. Lets see if he does.

3/5, we didn't learn anything new. We're finally out of flashbacks, though

Everyone thought that Mito was involved. It seems she wasnt. And you didn't learn anything New.
Not a Very good student I guess. May be little, but is something.

For me its 5/5 and i'd like more flashbacks