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Creekdawg, the guy was merely stating an observation. If you're kishi I would have believed you but you're not so your guess is as good as anybody else.
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions
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Creekdawg, the guy was merely stating an observation. If you're kishi I would have believed you but you're not so your guess is as good as anybody else.
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Itachi will forever be my favorite Uchiha; of all time.
Hashirama runs the show, never knew why this was always denied by Madara & Hiruzen Fan boys
Tobirama need brakes
Can't wait for the following chapters
Hashirama runs the show, never knew why this was always denied by Madara & Hiruzen Fan boys
Tobirama need brakes
Can't wait for the following chapters
lcolells51
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I am kinda just a reader, and like the world of Naruto. But I am not up to date on everyone's powers and stuff, so sorry if I ask stupid questions or make reference or other errors. I merely just read cause it's cool.
I am confused why Harashima is able to break free of the edo tensei, but Tobirama who is the creator can't? I feel like these chapters are to give the readers more into the lives of the 1 and 2 Hokage. We don't know much about them except that Harshima was the most powerful shinobi second maybe only to Madara?
We are seeing how Tobirama was more of the war Hokage, kind of like the current Raikage. Harshima is shown to be this super loving, caring trying to find peace before war Hokage, something that all of the sensei's have been trying to teach their pupils. If Madara was able to break free, why can't Tobirama?
Another thing, (I am not sure if somewhere it is mentioned) but the Third Hokage (or maybe someone else I am not sure) stated that once the soul is sealed into the Reaper Seal it can't come back. How are they back? And we are kind of seeing how strong each Hokage is, since that's what Oro and all the readers want to see. But perhaps, Minato is being quite, because since he was taught all the sealing jutsu's of the Uzimaki's he is coming up with a plan? Or he wants to know what the 1 and 2 are talking about. Perhaps he was sort of left in the dark because of his age, even for being a Hokage, the Second Mizukage stated that there was a lot of secrets between the mizukage's techniques in the Mist village.
I mean, could we say that perhaps the Third Hokage is the weakest of them all?
Granted we have only seen Minato's (the fourth) speed and skill with rasengan, space time, and seals, but maybe he is better than the writer has let on? If Harashima can break free, perhaps he is also secretly trying to break everyone else free?
Is this edo tensei the same as Kabuto's where even though Kabuto lost control of Zabuza and Itachi, he could still "see" what they were doing? If Madara is back, and at full strength, and Senju is at full strength, after the story time for Sasuke, hopefully Harashima can come to the rescue of the Kages!
I'd also like to see the strength of Tobirama, seeing as all we know is he was crazy good with water techniques (as seen in a weakened form in the origional resurrection during the Destruction of the Leaf), and didn't he control that lightning lightsaber sword? I'd like to see Hiruzen talk, or show some power.
Didn't Oro even hint to letting the Kage's fight on the good side, (as well as threatening to destroy the leaf)? Do you think there is a chance to see Jiraya? I understand you need DNA, but are we really assuming the sneaky snake Orochimaru never got any? Do you think there will be one final every rival takes each other on? Like Harshima vs Madara, Minato vs (Obito?) or Hiruzen vs Orochimaru, Sasuke vs Naruto and Sakura, and someone versus Kabuto? Is anyone sure of who to be more worried about? Orochimaru with Senju-cells, and his arms back, a full power Madara? or a Kabuto? or seems to have some sort of back up every time?
Are we getting towards the end of Naruto all together? With the older generation of the Ino, Shika, Cho, Neji, Anko, Yamato, I feel like the series is ending
I am sorry I rambled on I just have a lot of questions and the World of Ninja is very interesting to me.
I am confused why Harashima is able to break free of the edo tensei, but Tobirama who is the creator can't? I feel like these chapters are to give the readers more into the lives of the 1 and 2 Hokage. We don't know much about them except that Harshima was the most powerful shinobi second maybe only to Madara?
We are seeing how Tobirama was more of the war Hokage, kind of like the current Raikage. Harshima is shown to be this super loving, caring trying to find peace before war Hokage, something that all of the sensei's have been trying to teach their pupils. If Madara was able to break free, why can't Tobirama?
Another thing, (I am not sure if somewhere it is mentioned) but the Third Hokage (or maybe someone else I am not sure) stated that once the soul is sealed into the Reaper Seal it can't come back. How are they back? And we are kind of seeing how strong each Hokage is, since that's what Oro and all the readers want to see. But perhaps, Minato is being quite, because since he was taught all the sealing jutsu's of the Uzimaki's he is coming up with a plan? Or he wants to know what the 1 and 2 are talking about. Perhaps he was sort of left in the dark because of his age, even for being a Hokage, the Second Mizukage stated that there was a lot of secrets between the mizukage's techniques in the Mist village.
I mean, could we say that perhaps the Third Hokage is the weakest of them all?
Granted we have only seen Minato's (the fourth) speed and skill with rasengan, space time, and seals, but maybe he is better than the writer has let on? If Harashima can break free, perhaps he is also secretly trying to break everyone else free?
Is this edo tensei the same as Kabuto's where even though Kabuto lost control of Zabuza and Itachi, he could still "see" what they were doing? If Madara is back, and at full strength, and Senju is at full strength, after the story time for Sasuke, hopefully Harashima can come to the rescue of the Kages!
I'd also like to see the strength of Tobirama, seeing as all we know is he was crazy good with water techniques (as seen in a weakened form in the origional resurrection during the Destruction of the Leaf), and didn't he control that lightning lightsaber sword? I'd like to see Hiruzen talk, or show some power.
Didn't Oro even hint to letting the Kage's fight on the good side, (as well as threatening to destroy the leaf)? Do you think there is a chance to see Jiraya? I understand you need DNA, but are we really assuming the sneaky snake Orochimaru never got any? Do you think there will be one final every rival takes each other on? Like Harshima vs Madara, Minato vs (Obito?) or Hiruzen vs Orochimaru, Sasuke vs Naruto and Sakura, and someone versus Kabuto? Is anyone sure of who to be more worried about? Orochimaru with Senju-cells, and his arms back, a full power Madara? or a Kabuto? or seems to have some sort of back up every time?
Are we getting towards the end of Naruto all together? With the older generation of the Ino, Shika, Cho, Neji, Anko, Yamato, I feel like the series is ending
I am sorry I rambled on I just have a lot of questions and the World of Ninja is very interesting to me.
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Also, I will add that Orochimaru noted that Hashirama was moving of his free will when he had summoned the restraining jutsu on his brother, which could have also affected Hashirama. Hashi was easily able to determine that his Mokuton cells were being used on Orochimaru and his version of Edo Tensei, which made Oro more than a bit nervous. Hashi, with his easy-going, Goku-type personality (he's a helluva lot smarter, I may add), is no one to mess with.
He knows what he's up against with Sasuke and feels he has nothing to lose by spending time with him; he seems pretty confident but yet understands that Sasuke must follow his own path. Regardless of what happens with Sasuke, the Hokage are going to be on the battlefield to the shock of everyone already there - especially Madara. What happens to the Oro-4 is anyone's guess.
lcolells51
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Sorry I am new, and I did post that long thing above yours, but who is Hashi? is that Harashima?
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I don't want to start a fight or anything, so don't bite my head off, but could it be that the Third Hokage, is in awe of what Sasuke has accomplished and knows, so he hasn't said anything, let alone the fact that the 1 and 2 are his predecessors and probably know more about what Sasuke needs to know, besides the actual orders of the Uchiha destruction? And it seems the Fourth is kinda lost, he might be too busy sensing Naruto or something to really comment to Sasuke, let alone he may not really know who Sasuke is?
(I am probably completely wrong)
(I am probably completely wrong)
Lady Tsunade Senju
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We all have to start somewhere...no stupid questions.
Hashirama and Tobirama, brothers, were from the wartime prior to the current system of one village/one country system. Hashirama created that system by using the Fire Country/Konoha as an example to protect itself from war. The other countries followed suit. but it didn't prevent war.
Senju vs. Uchiha - it all boils down to that. You'll hear about it all, like we all will, next issue. This will be the first time we ALL will have heard it all from one of the main participants. When there was a battle, it was always Madara vs. Hashirama; they were the strongest of their clans. Previously, we had heard Madara, in the form of Tobi - his side of the story, when he was trying to manipulate Sasuke. Now, we're going to hear the other side of the story; the Senju clan, Hashirama.
Hashirama's Mokuton Jutsu is one that is not very well understood, which is why so many wanted it, including Orochimaru. He experimented with it and in the end created Yamato for his efforts. Danzo tried and failed. Oro has clearly underestimated the strength of this jutsu and the strength of this shinobi. In the edo tensei jutsu itself, the caster can control everything from the summoning's strength, abilities, jutsu and personality traits. Orochimaru chose not to do anything. So, who we are seeing is their truest form at near full strength. Tobirama was the sensory shinobi with a major water jutsu that is often emulated by Kakaski in a lesser form. Hiruzen, being from the Sarutobi clan, has fire in his arsenal (remember Asuma, his son?) and his unique summoning was the Monkey King, who could act as his right hand man, so to speak, and could take on many forms and assist where necessary. Then there was Minato, who, through his relationship and marriage to Kushina Uzumaki, the previous jinchuuriki of Kurama, became well versed in the old Uzumaki sealing jutsus, which had been long coveted. His Thunder God technique came from those seals where he could instantaneously travel from one place to another using special kunai with a special seal on each of them, classic time space jutsu. It is now said that Naruto, in his Kyuubi form, is as fast if not faster than his father, Minato.
It was thought that the death reaper seal was indestructible, but, again, the Uzumaki clan's seals may have also had a means to undo that seal that Orochimaru discovered in his "down time." The Uzumaki clan was brilliant in the area of seals and their secrets were given to Konoha as a gift of goodwill.
Jiraiya is hidden in the bottom of the ocean and you need DNA of someone to be summoned in order to summon them back. Plus you need a human sacrifice. Unless there are other Zetsus lying around...ain't gonna happen.
There are going to be many battles ahead, to be sure and I'm sure the best is yet to come. We don't even know the status of the other Kage, the current ones, yet. They were gravely injured and Tsunade was trying to heal them but with her cut in half...hard to know. It's entirely possible, her own grandfather may be the one to save her life.
You will never truly know what is happening with the manga. Kishi is not known for revealing his cards even in interviews. Yamato has not been confirmed as dead and even those interviews where he is were considered to be fake.
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