[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 605 Discussion and 606 Predictions

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No one can accept the fact that a non Ucihia can't figure out he has evolved his sharigain for 10 years?

Hell, he found it during the Akatsuki attack...didn't take him long.

You guys sound like Kishimoto doesn't have an outline...sheesh. What kind of writer do you think doesn't have an outline for a story?
 

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I am getting the feeling that Kishi made this part of the story as an afterthought after the first part, i.e. Zabuza-Haku part.

First, how was the body-disposal squad of Konoha not able to retrieve Obito's corpse, or did they lie, since Kakashi appears so surprised to see that Obito is alive? This recent chapter showed us that the body disposal squad is important since the Blood Mist ninjas still want to retrieve Rin's body because of the important intel they could cull from it.

Second, Kakashi not knowing he had MS for almost ten years seems really lame.

Third, where the hell is THE Yellow Flash when he is needed?
He conveniently disappears this second time and another team 7 member dies.

Fourth, the Hashirama-DNA infused suit is also very convenient since we haven't seen Hashirama himsef use this jutsu of passing through walls, earth, and people. If he is the origin of this jutsu that made Obito 'invincible' then Hashirama should have been invincible, too.
Could've been in another country, outside of the fire country's boarder. Additionally the body may have been in an irretrievable state.

Kakashi says "i've developed a brilliant new jitsu, so it is lame but probably true

As stated above "making the series" lol ***** for that

Standards change with time, but keep in mind that half his body is almost a copy of Harashima's body and the suit is Zetsu. The DNA Obito gains gives him an edge.
 

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point of correction, kakashi did't no that he has awaking the mk . if we go back to same of the episode where itachi tell sasuke that if he what to awaking mk he have to kill he close friend,but the same go to kakashi,but he do no that,by killing rin mistake that where the mk awaking both obito and kakashi.
 

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Could've been in another country, outside of the fire country's boarder. Additionally the body may have been in an irretrievable state.

Kakashi says "i've developed a brilliant new jitsu, so it is lame but probably true

As stated above "making the series" lol ***** for that

Standards change with time, but keep in mind that half his body is almost a copy of Harashima's body and the suit is Zetsu. The DNA Obito gains gives him an edge.
point of correction, kakashi did't no that he has awaking the mk . if we go back to same of the episode where itachi tell sasuke that if he what to awaking mk he have to kill he close friend,but the same go to kakashi,but he do no that,by killing rin mistake that where the mk awaking both obito and kakashi.
 

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Hello Everyone,

New poster to NB.(duh ;))


Anyways I had a theory about the guy whose mask was broken. And I could be totally wrong not knowing the history of said character.



So my theory on who that person from the hidden leaf village is...Danzo. Does anyone know how he got so messed up looking?(to clarify if it is possible. Danzo was afterall a sneaky backstabbing type of guy, he fits the bill afterall to be hiding his true identity amongst another nation.
 

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Hello Everyone,

New poster to NB.(duh ;))


Anyways I had a theory about the guy whose mask was broken. And I could be totally wrong not knowing the history of said character.



So my theory on who that person from the hidden leaf village is...Danzo. Does anyone know how he got so messed up looking?(to clarify if it is possible. Danzo was afterall a sneaky backstabbing type of guy, he fits the bill afterall to be hiding his true identity amongst another nation.
welcome and nice theory .
i believe he can be danzo ,
now i think danzo got messed up by obito .
 

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Thank you.


Just from the look on obito's face it did look like he recognized the person. Both from same village and what not.


There is alot about danzo that is a mystery. I just got done reading a wiki on him. Apparently he fought the akakutsi(sp?) at some time.


This would of definitely tell us why he decided to have 10 sharingan eyes implanted on his arm(possibly lost his original?)



Just an idea I had really.
 

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Naruto 606: "Road to Hell"

Earlier.

Rin and Kakashi are walking.

Kakashi, " Rin, where are we going? We only have a few hours before we have to meet Sensei."

Rin, " this wont take long, we are here. "

Suddenly they are surrounded by Mist Ninja.
Kakashi, " Rin get out of here, I will slow them down!"

Mist Ninja, "we will not harm the girl, if you cooperate then you may live as well."

Rin, " i am sorry Kakashi, but it was my mission."

Mist ninja(2), " you see this ninja was born and raised in the Mist Village. She was planted in the leaf with a fake family years ago."

Kakashi, "why, what was the reason for this?!"

Rin, "to discover the secrets of the Leaf village best ninja."

Mist ninja, " feel honored kid you just recently were added to that list."

Rin, " i have them, I have Minato Namikaze's formula for FTG, as well as Kushina Uzumaki's sealing techniques. I even manage to get the instructions for His new secret technique."

Kakashi puts his head down,{all those things could bring down the leaf village in the wrong hands, possible all the villages. An entire force of Yellow Flashes, that would be devastating?!} " Rin...what about Obito? What about us? Was all that false?"

Rin, " i do care for you Kakashi, but i was on a mission for my village. Speaking it Obito, it was briliant for him to give you the Sharinghan. Now my people can have someone that is familiar with it, better than just taking it out of his sockets."

Kakashi, " what? I am not *a mist ninja, I am Kakashi Hatake of the Hidden Leaf!"

Mist ninja(3), "well dead or alive that eye is coming with us. She was being nice bringing you here. Should have just taken it out."

Suddenly mist forms around them.

Kakashi, {there about to move in, I can do two chidori at my current level}

He raises his headband revealing the SG.

Rin, { is he really gonna take them all on?}

Kakashi, "Ninja will die here today [charges chidori] and they will die as Leaf ninja!"

He turns and stabs Rin, "Those that abandon their friends...are worse than scum."

Rin, " I understand...cough...guess I didnt..cough...learn anything from Obito....unlike you...cough..."

Obito arrives on the sideline.

Rin, "...Kakashi."

She falls.

Kakashi, "Rin." {now myself}

we see the MS appear.

Kakashi, {suddenly too weak..to..}

He passes out.

Now(current flashback status)

Obito, " i am in hell, this is worse rhan life could ever be!"

He looks around seeing the dead mist ninja, Kakashi and then looks at .

" this is terrible, i am too late, if only i was here earlier..."

Zetsu, " sorry we could not reach her in time.."

Obito cuts him if as if ignoring it all together, "I could have helped Kakashi!"

Zetsu suit, {?!}

Obito continues while looking at his surroundings, " Kakashi risked his life to protect her he killed so many ninja, until he passed out. He couldn't do it. He couldn't protect Rin, he..he"

He looks at Rin, "no, that wrong, he could have done it. He was saving himself, he just let her die!"

Zetsu suit, "Obito? What is going on with you?"

He walks over to Kakashi, " you busy being so great, you let that Mist ninja stab her, kill her."

We see a fake flash back of a Mist ninja killing Rin while Kakashi chidoris a Mist ninja.

Obito, " i do not abandon my friends, i would be worse than scum, like you."

We see later Rin laying down in the cave, with Obito looking at her.

Elsewhere.

Kakashi is waking up, looking at Minato, "sensei....Fourth Hokage, how?"

Minato, " relax Kakashi, you have been through something that put a strain in your body and chakra. Where is Rin?"

Kakashi putting hus head down, "Rin, was a spy. I..i had to..."

Minato interrupts " i know, i discovered it a while ago. I didn't think she would make her move now though."

Kakashi, "you knew, but why didn't you say something?"

Minato, i truly was hoping to turn it to our advantage. She was here ti gather information so I gave her access, to what I wanted her to have."

Kakashi, " are you saying...?"

Minato, " yes, nothing he had was real. Si what village placed her? I guessed the Mist village. *They are the only ones nit busy with anything major at the moment."

Kakashi looking away, " you know Sensei, can we do this a bit later?"

Minato, "of course, but one question? How did you get back to the village *gate?"

Kakashi just looks up confused.

Back to Obito.

Madara is speaking to the Zetsu suit which is no longer on Obito.

Madara, "really the Mangekyo? Interesting, but are you sure he is having a mental break down?"

Spiral, " yes, see for yourself."

We see What looks like *walls of trees, forming two rooms.

Spiral, " he made these before we separated, said it was for her and him."
Just as Madara was to enter one of them, Obito comes out.

"no one goes in there, ever. Only me, just me!"

Madara, " Obito what are you doing?"

Obito, "Rin sleeps in there, i will stay by her side until she wakes up."

Madara, " she is dead, but maybe I can help her like I helped you. Let ne take a look."*

Obito activates his MS, "I said noone, this means you as well. Did you not say you had a plan to change reality into whatever you want?"

Madara, "something like that, yes. But far as raising the dead, there are ways to do that as well, Obito."

Obito grabs his head,"Obito. Obito. Obito. Obito. Obito. Etc..."

Keeps repeating his name over and over.

Madara, " you were right, he is damaged. I can't use him now."

Madara begins to walk away.

Obito, " Oibitobiobitobito...Tobi."

He sees Madara walking away.

Later we see spiral Zetsu standing in front of the first mask on the wall, and the others.

Few hours later after Madara is sitting on his thrown.

Obito in the spiral mask phases through the ground and is standing in front of him.

Obito, (funny voice) "I am Tobi, I am a good boy."

Madara, " damaged."

Obito removes the mask and puts on the Madara and Itachi mask,(in his serious voice) " No, focused. Now whats the plan?"

Madara, {damaged, but still maybe this can be used...}

We see Runs body in the room on a table, she is wearing the Body of the Spiral Zetsu.


Keeping her body preserved, but for what?
Obito has snapped,does he have a different personality with each mask? *Where is Rins body now!?

Next: "Kakashi's last Stand"


ANOTHER PREDICTION

NARUTO 606: Clinging to darkness Personified

Under a bloody spiraling tree...Obito stares down at the lifeless Rin....
Obito: I don't understand.....my life has completely crumbled.......there is nothing out there for me.... for me to cherish or desire....this world is Hell.....I am being tormented by the devil himself...(falling to his knees) Kakashi...WHY?!

Obito blacks out as he falls unconscious..Spiral Zetsu: So he did it! Too bad it had to come at such a cost....I see why Madara wants this world blackened under his dream....(telepathically )White Zetsu: Bring him back to the hideout! Madara awoke asking for him.
Spiral Zetsu wraps Obito's face up in his own artificial skin and burrows underground heading back to the secret base.

Obito awakes screaming in agony. Madara slowly approaches the mentally disfigured Obito. Madara: I was filled in on what occurred with the Mist. I am sorry for your loss young Uchiha. Your former team mate..the one you surrendered your eye to....he could not keep his promise to you.. The one thing every human in this world believes in is faith. Today you were taught first hand at how ridiculous FATE and FAITH is..One makes his own path and creates his own destiny...when you create something concrete that you could base a foundation off of that is when we change the world. Showing them their only true choice is to follow natural selection. We Uchihas are the strong and we have the power to shape this world into something only our forefathers could be proud of. With our fiery passion we will rid this cruel world of all it's misfortunes. No one would hurt as you do now...only love and true peace can be initiated through our vision and goals.

Madara looks down at Rin who Spiral Zetsu has placed upon a raised flat bed of tree trunks. Madara: What would she have wanted? What were your dreams before all this?

Obito looks at Rin as he focuses on her Madara notices his pupil pulsating rapidly. Madara: Obito, I need for you to try to calm yourself. You are already not in the best shape and your recent tragedy has seemingly caused you some grief. If you do not control the hate inside you it will only eat away at you until nothing but Vengeance is left. Obito starring at Rin's cold body, as he stares he simply loses focus and becomes entrapped in his own fearful nightmare. Over and over his brain simulates the horrific scene he witnessed. Obito: Rrrr.....Rii............NOOOOOOOOO! Madara: Zetsu! This child he has awaken a sole MS. Not only that you said he was able to use Mokuton during the fight various times. If we account for the fact that he is a unique hybrid of Hashirama and Uchiha. He could have unlimited possibilities....for this we must remain patient.

hours later....

(awake from his dark dreams) (laying in Madara's bed)
Obito: Where am I? What am I doing here?
Madara with Zetsu turn astonished to what they just heard!
Madara: (Placing his hand on Obito's head.) Ssshh you were in a terrible accident. Do you know who you are?
Obito: ??? I have no recollection, where am I? Where did I come from?
Madara: KONOAH, you were casted aside like trash until me and my family found you. You are apart of the mighty Uchiha clan. I am your eldest ancestor..Here recently you lost the most precious thing you favored in this world. Your former team mates killed her in front of your very being. We saved you and kept watch over her body.
Obito:.....
Madara: I know this is a lot to take in. We should give her a proper burial. If you allow it we will do this for you. Have you come to remember your name at all?
Obito(with a serious face) (change in voice and body language) Obito: Nothing..I am getting nothing. I can tell you only what my heart screams for....
Madara: What is that?
Obito: Revenge and the utter annihilation of Konoah!
Zetsu (whispering to Madara): He seems split in nature does he not? What is going on inside that head of his?
Madara: Well we must come up with a name..I can't be calling you boy every time... What shall we call you?

Madara in thought( This is good, if he can put aside his childish emotional rage...he can be of use to me.) (This split in personality may give him the edge he needs. (smirking)

Spiral Zetsu walks up to Obito, trust me friend I will always have your back and protect you! let us become one! Spiral Zetsu once again engulfs Obito within his skin. Together we are TOBI!

Madara: OK, Tobi I am glad you are feeling more like yourself. I have a place for you here if you desire to stay.
Obito: How can you.....How can you help...How can you help me bring Konoah to their knees?

Madara's eyebrows raise in excitement

Madara: I have the perfect plan in mind..and with my help you will have the world at your disposal. I will mold you into a fearsome shinobi!

Panel fades revealing two Rinnegans behind Madara....
 

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Apart from kamui and realising there are other ninja all it was, was a half broken kid screaming suddenly jumping to MS miraculously ha plus what I don't get is that by the looks of it, obitos eye is bleeding (obviously due to MS) however, in the fiture it doesn't bleed and yes he possibly has the EMS but wouldn't that create a mold of the two MS, so what I am saying is why doesn't future Obito's eye bleed when using MS
Well i figure Obito doesnt need to bleed because he has enough chakra to handle the rinnegan. His sharingan visual prowess is exceedingly power since Hashirama cell has fused with the Uchiha bloodline. What im waiting for is when he takes it a step futher because he hasnt played his trump card. Im still wondering how the vessle (mazou) is going to bring forth the 10tails with the moon.

Also what i wonder is when did Danzo used sushi MS?
Whose eye did Madara have in the cave?
 

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Why? It was a possibility. I don't mean that it would have been a good plot twist, but it is not like all the plot twists in this manga are good ones.
This is fiction, ANYTHING is possible. That doesn't mean that anything is probable, or even likely. Kishi could write in the next chapter that Madara was really Sasuke from the future, who went back in time to save his dog from the Uchiha massacre, and in doing so, altered the space time continuum forever, switching places with Itachi, and what we're seeing right now is some sort of alternate dimension which is really all just happening inside the So6P's head, who is really Ramen Noodle Guy. Is that possible? YES. Does it make sense? NO. Is it probable or likely? NO. Would the story start to suck ass if it were the case? YES.

These types of theories are usually what the studios who do the Anime filler episodes come up with, which is why no one likes them and they suck ass. It was blatantly obvious from the moment we learned that Obito didn't die, that a moment would come where both Kakashi and Obito would have to see Rin die.

In order for that to mean anything, it would have to really be Rin, really be Kakashi, and really happen. I didn't see Kakashi killing Rin coming, honestly, but I did know that both Kakashi and Obito would see Rin die and awaken MS. It's just stupid to think that this stuff was all a conspiracy or something.
 

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So my theory on who that person from the hidden leaf village is...Danzo. Does anyone know how he got so messed up looking?(to clarify if it is possible. Danzo was afterall a sneaky backstabbing type of guy, he fits the bill afterall to be hiding his true identity amongst another nation.
I don't think that guy is Danzo.
It will be hard for Kishi to make a link of hate between Uchiha clan and Obito after revealing this guy is Danzo.

Why seing Danzo's face make Obito go crazy a lot more than when he sees Kakashi kill Rin? No way.

He have to be a Uchiha , Obito have to be close with that guy , his father , his older brother?
Obito could have EMS if that guy is his brother.The guy is still in Obito's left hand at the end of the chapter.
The sharingan wall would be explained if all "mist ninjas are Uchiha".
It's understandable that the weak Uchiha clan was looking for power.
It would explain Obito's hate against the Uchiha clan and his hate against Konoha , being the 2 parts of this fight.

What do you think?

It was blatantly obvious from the moment we learned that Obito didn't die, that a moment would come where both Kakashi and Obito would have to see Rin die.
Obviously , I don't know why everybody is talking about Kakashi and Obito awakening MS.

We did know Kakashi or Obito would have to kill Rin , with little doubts.
Now it's just said that Kakashi killed Rin , one confirmation but how many questions in this chapter.
That info is so little for me compared to all the info we have in 605.
And people are still talking about MS , shame.
 
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Why? It was a possibility. I don't mean that it would have been a good plot twist, but it is not like all the plot twists in this manga are good ones.
Why? Because it would be shitty storytelling. It was never a possibility if you had any clue what was going on tbh..
People had the wrong idea about Madara being the big manipulator. Obito is the real manipulator and you'll see he'll be handle things himself soon enough.
This chapter was made for Obito to be influenced by Madara, not becoming his slave
 
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Prediction:

Next chapter starts with Guy and Kakashi looking at Obito

Guy:Why is his face blurry and why is there bubbly music playing
Kakashi:It's a flashback Guy, try to pay attention
(Back to Obito backstory)
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 605 Discussion and 606 Predictions

So my theory on who that person from the hidden leaf village is...Danzo. Does anyone know how he got so messed up looking?(to clarify if it is possible. Danzo was afterall a sneaky backstabbing type of guy, he fits the bill afterall to be hiding his true identity amongst another nation.
I don't think that guy is Danzo.
It will be hard for Kishi to make a link of hate between Uchiha clan and Obito after revealing this guy is Danzo.

Why seing Danzo's face make Obito go crazy a lot more than when he sees Kakashi kill Rin? No way.

He have to be a Uchiha , Obito have to be close with that guy , his father , his older brother?
Obito could have EMS if that guy is his brother.The guy is still in Obito's left hand at the end of the chapter.
The sharingan wall would be explained if all "mist ninjas are Uchiha".
It's understandable that the weak Uchiha clan was looking for power.
It would explain Obito's hate against the Uchiha clan and his hate against Konoha , being the 2 parts of this fight.

What do you think?

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Well I think seeing someone he loved die in front of him, by his best friend and rivals hands at that, would be enough to send him into that frenzy. BUT it did look like the point of the leaf symbol on the head band of the guy whose mask got shattered by obitos knee. After that It looked as if Obito recognized that specific person. That on the next page the mist ninja seemed to be asking who that guy w was towards the guy with the busted face mask.


Not saying nor did i say, that IF that is Danzo, it was the reason behind obitos hatred of the leaf.
 

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After everything that just happen. I'll have to say OBITO IS FREAKING AWESOME!! really this sad story just got even sadder! I almost cried. So much blood and pain and so many contradictions I did not get any answers at all. I only got confirmations. And it's...wow. I can't believe my eyes. I'm just. I'm speechless to say the least. I need to review over this cause everything that took place was hell. It was damnation. It was a source of Obitos delema. And I'll be damn to say that this will not end. He's a victim. And very sad victim. And I'll be glad to see him die so he won't suffer. Kakashi you better have a good explanation. Seriously. I'm...ARRUGGHHH!!

I give this a 5\5 best chapter yet. I'll be drawing more of sad Obito. Best since my icon looks like he's pooping. But off topic anyway. I just want to sleep...I...can't think...aw man. Dammit.
for shinobi with no poo, plenty shit:D:D
 
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I am getting the feeling that Kishi made this part of the story as an afterthought after the first part, i.e. Zabuza-Haku part.

First, how was the body-disposal squad of Konoha not able to retrieve Obito's corpse, or did they lie, since Kakashi appears so surprised to see that Obito is alive? This recent chapter showed us that the body disposal squad is important since the Blood Mist ninjas still want to retrieve Rin's body because of the important intel they could cull from it.

Second, Kakashi not knowing he had MS for almost ten years seems really lame.

Third, where the hell is THE Yellow Flash when he is needed?
He conveniently disappears this second time and another team 7 member dies.

Fourth, the Hashirama-DNA infused suit is also very convenient since we haven't seen Hashirama himsef use this jutsu of passing through walls, earth, and people. If he is the origin of this jutsu that made Obito 'invincible' then Hashirama should have been invincible, too.
Okay, uhm, let me explain that they could not retrieve Obito's body, cuz MADARA FOUND HIM, AND TOOK HIM, DUH.

Also, Obito's MS ability is phasing, the Hashirama DNA has given him Hashirama abilities to some xtent too, he is like Obito Uchiha on Hashirama roids.

How is all of this hard to understand?
 
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