[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions
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What are you a 5 year old kid, this is a manga, so it should make sense in Naruto verse that eveyone on here has been following. So go back to watching Phineas and Ferb or go to bed(you know it's your bed time) while we manga fan's debate theories and plot holes by Kishi.
fuutonrasenshuriken
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This chapter tells that Obito didn't actually turn evil, it's more like he was force to. Some where down the road there will be a betrayal. I don't know that's what i think. Cause it seems like Obito was interested in seeing his friend again not gaining peace to the world.
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Nagato was a while before Obito so maybe Madara wasn't in that bad of a condition at that point??
It was great xd omg it really was - 5 stars - xd
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- A nice early chapter I am almost shocked that I read it already xd
- It explains so much ,
*Confirms Madara gave Nagato the rinnegan
*How Madara seemed to have survived and how Obito did
*Obito didn't just follow Madara at first which makes sense
-It was actually pretty funny at the beginning
- Obito reminds me so much of Naruto xd
It is also cool how Madara was using gedo mazou chakra O.O and how Obito reacted at first to being picked up by an old man xd
A question's though :
-What a coincidence that he fell where Madara happened to be hiding ... :|
-And Obito was so good and desperate to escape, yet he must of listened to Madara in the end .. I wonder what Madara did that completely changed him like that ?
It was a really cool chapter , I enjoyed it, super informative and just awesome xd
Remember when Tobi (Obito) said to Konan, that he gave Nagato the rinnegan. I think someone else has his eyes for the time being. But I wouldnt discount the fact that Tobi stated that he was the one who gave it to him. And Madara does still have that curse mark! Remember? What if Oro wants to take his body? or extract some chakra from him like he did kabuto?
Madara's Curse mark!!!
Remember when Tobi (Obito) said to Konan, that he gave Nagato the rinnegan. I think someone else has his eyes for the time being. But I wouldnt discount the fact that Tobi stated that he was the one who gave it to him. And Madara does still have that curse mark! Remember? What if Oro wants to take his body? or extract some chakra from him like he did kabuto? Maybe thats why he's not after Sasuke? And how do you think Obito escaped? I think Orochimaru had something to do with that. Because he's always brought up when there's a chance their plans can be ruined, or if someone's on to them. He probably put the curse seal on him when he died- or as he died...
Remember when Tobi (Obito) said to Konan, that he gave Nagato the rinnegan. I think someone else has his eyes for the time being. But I wouldnt discount the fact that Tobi stated that he was the one who gave it to him. And Madara does still have that curse mark! Remember? What if Oro wants to take his body? or extract some chakra from him like he did kabuto? Maybe thats why he's not after Sasuke? And how do you think Obito escaped? I think Orochimaru had something to do with that. Because he's always brought up when there's a chance their plans can be ruined, or if someone's on to them. He probably put the curse seal on him when he died- or as he died...
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I think the chapter was good. Kishi still has quite a bit of explaining to do about Obito though. Personally, I'm still trying to wrap my head around him doing a 180. I'm sure it'll all be explains in due time, but I can't help being a little impatient. I think my eyes popped out of my head when I read what Obito said to Madara about "taking care of the lower region." Only in manga. lol
I don't know what you're referring to regarding the curse mark. But as for the bit in bold, Tobi is full of sh*t and has claimed to have done many things that he clearly has not done. For example, here he tells Kabuto that he grew the Hashi clone using DNA he stole during his battle with Hashirama:
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Great chapter! it explained alot about the plot behind Madara and Obito.
So know we know that Nagato was given the Rinnegan by Madara, which means we will find out about that soon. Also, we realize another side of Madara which is never really spoken of.
I believe Obito keeps trying to escape for a while, as Madara continues to talk about his views on the world. All the talk about the cruel reality eventually settle in when we figure out how Kakashi let Rin die. Then Obito is essentially turned into Tobi at that point and decides to help Madara in his cause. Thats what I think how the Tobi persona was born.
So know we know that Nagato was given the Rinnegan by Madara, which means we will find out about that soon. Also, we realize another side of Madara which is never really spoken of.
I believe Obito keeps trying to escape for a while, as Madara continues to talk about his views on the world. All the talk about the cruel reality eventually settle in when we figure out how Kakashi let Rin die. Then Obito is essentially turned into Tobi at that point and decides to help Madara in his cause. Thats what I think how the Tobi persona was born.
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I never believed it when fans predicted that Tobi was Obito, mostly because to me it went against everything Obito as a charater stood for, his way of the ninja... the impact he had on Kakashi's life was monumental. So much so that is was taught to Naruto, those who abandon the mission are trash but those that abandon thier friends are worse then trash... I couldn't reconcile this perception of Obito with Tobi. Tobi a man who manipulated people's dreams into nightmares, a man that used and discards people like rusted tools, a man that helped Sasuke go completely cold.
Since the revealing of Obito being Tobi, I've felt sick watching the fall out of what this means to Kakashi. As a reader I next thought OMG was he the one that killed Minato? Did he destroy Naruto's family at it's inception? Did he really rip the Bijuu from Kushina at her most vulnerable state? Did he do this to people that loved and cared for him? I felt sick...it's a horror show of betrayals. At this point I'm not sure I want to know or see what turned him into this monster mostly because no matter what it won't be justified to me, ever. What I do want to see is Naruto take him and Madara out. Talk no jutsu is not enough here man, I want them put down because what they've done is unforgivable. I know some fans are trying to sort out the loopholes of the time gap which makes it possible that Obito wasn't the one that fought the Yondaime but I don't care about the logistics since at this point it looks like Obito helped Madara acheive his goal. So I say screw it, this Mofo has got to pay! You broke my heart Obito, you broke my heart...
Since the revealing of Obito being Tobi, I've felt sick watching the fall out of what this means to Kakashi. As a reader I next thought OMG was he the one that killed Minato? Did he destroy Naruto's family at it's inception? Did he really rip the Bijuu from Kushina at her most vulnerable state? Did he do this to people that loved and cared for him? I felt sick...it's a horror show of betrayals. At this point I'm not sure I want to know or see what turned him into this monster mostly because no matter what it won't be justified to me, ever. What I do want to see is Naruto take him and Madara out. Talk no jutsu is not enough here man, I want them put down because what they've done is unforgivable. I know some fans are trying to sort out the loopholes of the time gap which makes it possible that Obito wasn't the one that fought the Yondaime but I don't care about the logistics since at this point it looks like Obito helped Madara acheive his goal. So I say screw it, this Mofo has got to pay! You broke my heart Obito, you broke my heart...
I totally agree with you, but also don't forget that he is a proud Uchiha, who end up killing his clan with Itachi(atleast Itachi wanted to save the rest of the village, from a Uchiha war) and also turn his back on the village. Kishi(who is wash up writter now) is trying to make us believe it all for Rin(who wasn't even his girl), is the reason Obito did all of this and from what we see from him, it just don't add up.
It's like Naruto talking about being Hokage, than changing everyone like Nagato mine and wanting to save Sasuke and the village, all of the sudden get hurt and Sakura die and than Naruto want to kill everyone in the leaf(instead of the people who kill her), his clan and now want to inslave the world. You have to have a pain or hate or greed for money or power, Naruto didn't have a pain after he had friends(he didn't know anything about his parent's), so only way it will make sense for Naruto to go to the darkside, is before he team up with Kakashi team or had his parent's around during his childhood, than they die, other than that(just like Obito) it don't make sense, because Naruto is not a greedy, hateful character as a kid, but a loving, caring person since he team up with Kakashi team( just like Obito seem to be as a kid with Kakashi and in this last chapter).
I mean you don't go from talk you into being a good guy jutsu with Kakashi, than sacrificing yourself for your teammates and giving Kakashi your left sharingan eye as a present, to I am the dark over one issue. Watch Kishi go to his money making, which is Rin die but also somehow Obito parent's die to, just to fix the plot.
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Guys just think there is no way Nagato hot Madara's eye , he awakaen the rinnegan shorty before he dies , he cant leave the cave , Madara is Old in this chapter and Obito is young that means Nagato will be Middle AGE and he got the rinnegan from when he was a child.......And dont tell me that Madara gives his eyes when Nagato was child cuz Madara at that time will not be near any dead.I think the one who attacked konoha is Not Obito and It is Not Madara it is the guys with Madara's eye with his right Eye and later He implnted that Eye to Obito for the time space jutsu.Now who is that guy Zetsy ? May be but it can be someone else from the leaf history who knows
he does not get the rinnegan when he is middle aged. Nagato gets the rinnegan in childhood. REMEMBER, jiraiya witnessed nagato with the rinnegan. We might also consider the fact that nagato was the one who awakened the rinnegan. Maybe madara gave him his sharingan eyes, and awakened the rinnegan with his other eyes when he died. But this still does not make sense. How did madara plan with obito to revive him with nagato's gedo ability? And if that were the case, then every sharingan would be able to awaken the rinnegan? What is the secret behind the activation?
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Dude you are wrong all over the place , Nagato and his quad are the same age or like 7 to 5 years older than Obito and Madara said he gave his eye's to someone already(I wonder who).
Also even if it make no sense Obito already use his Kamui power to save the other half of his body(Madara said some how he slip pass the other bowlders that drop on him) and explain how Kakashi have the other part of the Kamui technique, did Madara give him the eye to be able to do it(what he replace Kakashi left sharingan eye with the same set of MS Kamui eye, instead of giving Obito both to make sure their eye's still match). Also how many half Zetsu, sharingan having, MS Kamui technique using people, you think Madara have.
Look just accept that it don't make sense and Kishi have lost his touch, before you give yourself a brain crap and go into a coma.
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So madara gave his eyes (rinnegan) to nagato. Then Obito unknowingly used kamui to transport him (and the rock) to madaras hide out. Used gedo to make an artificial body the same way as zetsu. (explains when he tore off his arm in danzo fight, and it explains how Tobi was an adult when fighting minato) then they made the plans to resurrect the jubii. Madara dies. Nagato is supposed to resurrect madara with outer path but dies first. Kabuto is a step ahead and resurrects madara with edo tensei. Then madara erases summoning contract and it's now immortal with infinite chakra. (works out better anyway)*
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