[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

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JincoII

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So how about this a pair of combo attacks, Naruto and sasuke Wind and Fire, kakashi and Obito the strongest kamui attack yet on Madara, or who ever is the final bad guy or thing.
 

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5/5 Good chapter, very informative.

So that is the tree that grew the Zetsus...so that means that where Yamato is right now. Eventually the current fight will take them there. Anyway, I wonder how come Madara was resurrected near pear condition. I mean isn't someone who is brought back with Edo Tensei suppose to be in the same state they died in? Also how did he die in the first place? After training Obito did he let himself die so that the Mazou chakra could be used fully for the creation of the Zetsu army?
I wrote something similar 2 pages ago:

"This chapter was very informative BUT it still leaves me a little confused. I understand that Madara did survive his fight with the 1st and how he managed to stay alive after all these years. I also understand that it's very likely Madara gave his eyes to Nagato. It somewhat expalins how Obito survived, how he was treated and is leading to why he chose a different path.

What I don't understand is how Madara lived to such a ripe old age yet he was resurrected as a young man. My understanding was that you were revived the way you were before death, at the very least, same age range."
 

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One thing struck me as important!

Obito can't leave because he has 'HASHIRAMA's' artificial body attached to him. Then the page pans out to Mazou with a body-esque things hanging, including one with a Tobi mask. This body is EMPTY

This leads me to think that the artificial body came from the Tobi mask body/cocoon.

Maybe some weird symbiosis going on? or too far fetched? Obito's personality gets warped by the body of an earlier Tobi????

Any thoughts? or am I just crazy?
 

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Somebody please help explain this to me...

I know we have heard countless times that Madara gave Nagato the rinnengan, but this confuses me. Why? Because we saw when nagato awakened his rinnegan to save his friends. We know that he wasn't taken behind a bush and given eye surgery in the middle of that sequence...

So what exactly does this mean? That Madara gave nagato the rinnengan at some point before we saw him awaken it, and that the eyes looked just like normal eyes when they were first put into Nagato? That just doesn't make sense to me. For one, when Kakashi got Obito's eye, it didn't revert to a normal eye, it stayed a sharingan.

So somebody please explain how Nagato got eyes surgically implanted but still had to awaken them himself??

Until manga 602, my personal theory was that madara helped Nagato "awaken" the rinnengan, not by GIVING him the eyes, but by orchestrating the situation that let Nagato awken them himself. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember a soldier after food or something. Maybe Madara sent that soldier after them knowing it would be the trigger?

Just makes no sense to me now.

Unless I consider something totally crazy: The "Madara" we are seeing in these recent strips is NOT really Madara, but actually Izuna, the one who gave his eyes to Madara? Could he be using the same trick as "tobi" did, pretending for some personal gain?


Not trying to invent crazy theories, but the idea that Madara physically gave Nagato a set of eyes makes ZERO sense to me when you consider the other factors. Somebody please tell me that I am missing something really obvious here...
 

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What Blakashi and others said above about Madara being revived too young also seems to fit with what I posted last post. What if the "Madara" in 602 is Izuna? Granted there would be more plot holes to fill (like why Izuna and Madara shared goals still etc), but it might make more sense than the other issues we've noticed.
 

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To clear up some stupid thing I have read.

Madara- The rinnegan is the final formation of the sharnigan, Madara claims to have awakened it not long before his death, he said to obito that he gave his eyes away, most likely to nagato, probably knocked him out and implanted them which is why nagato didn't remember anything. Who madara got his one eye is really a mistery because the Uchiha Massacre has not happened yet. so he must have obtained it from an Uchiha that we know little about. Old Man madara will probably die soon, after he corrupts Obito to follow through with his plans. I suspect he uses Rin to finally make him corrupted.

Obito and Kakashi- When they were both kids they had the reverse situation as Saskue and Naruto. Obito childish was always trying to catch up to Kakashi, and it seemed like Kakashi was going the wrong way in life. After obito's death kakashi changed for the better. Now we are in the future and now Kakashi and Naruto both have a best friend who is a vengful Uchiha.
I feel that Kishi will somehow tie all that in together.

Nagato- He was a perfect choice for lending the Rinnegan to because as an Uzumaki he has a strong life force, and naturally a lot of chakra, he was planning the whole time be rived by Nagato because he has the chakra nessecary to pull of such a powerful jutsu
I agree completely. This is the most logical and likely explanation
 

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I'll be generous and say 3. All this really was, was Obito saying "I wanna go home" and Madara giving his little speech. One thing we did learn though is that Madara in fact did give his eyes away, to Nagato possibly?
 

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Everything makes sense about that except for why nagato's implanted Rinnengan for some reason went back to looking like normal eyes until he awakened them in the scene we saw where he protected his friends, around the time they met Jiriyah.
 

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"Take care of... your lower parts?"
WTF! Seriously, Kishi!?
LMMFAO I was waiting for someone to point that out.

I think Kishi is doing a good job and not because my predictions are correct.
We now know that Obito became Tobi with a Zetsu cast and that Madara is basically a rinnegan statue like Pein.
We also know that Madara took Izuna's eyes but gave them to Nagato as well.


If you don't understand or like it, read something else, stop pestering us people who actually enjoy this Manga series


5/5 for the chapter.
 
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