[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 596 Discussion and 597 Predictions

[NewNarrutoFans]

this remind me of this fight where minato did something similar and called it level 2

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he must have send his rasengan to other dimension in order to hit tobi ....


(correct me if i am wrong) and (if i am wrong then i am sorry)

 

[HokageTobiramaXx]

this remind me of this fight where minato did something similar and called it level 2

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he must have send his rasengan to other dimension in order to hit tobi ....


(correct me if i am wrong) and (if i am wrong then i am sorry)

In my eyes TFG is like teleporting yourself into an alternate dimension and coming back instantly..Tobi was tangible for the mili second that the 4th hit him

 

[AShine]

I'm guessing that Tobi's ability it somehow related to kamui. Tobi goes to the oter dimension real quick, then comes back out just as fast. Basically he Kamui's himself. It could be that wherever Kamui takes it's objects, could be the same exact place in the other dimension where Tobi comes in and back out. So if Tobi and Kakashi share the same 'dimension', then that'll be how Tobi got hit.

Right when the kunai was absorbed, Naruto was about to punch him. I believe that the punch actually got to Tobi, but barely. So Tobi, just in case, could of materialised knowing that even a small hit from Naruto could of been dangerous. So he materialised for a split second and then jumped away. That'll be how the cut appeared if my theory is correct.

In this chapter, Kakashi used Kamui on the rasengan right when Tobi would materialize, so both Tobi and the rasengan went to the other dimension, and thats where Tobi got hit and came back out injured and 'smoking'.

Again this is just a theory, and i'm open to all opinions

 

[Ryu sannin]

I'm guessing that Tobi's ability it somehow related to kamui. Tobi goes to the oter dimension real quick, then comes back out just as fast. Basically he Kamui's himself. It could be that wherever Kamui takes it's objects, could be the same exact place in the other dimension where Tobi comes in and back out. So if Tobi and Kakashi share the same 'dimension', then that'll be how Tobi got hit.

I also thought of the same thing

 

[serpiente clan]

kakashi now that tobi st is wind that way lighning cut the mask....jesus this kid now are goin to brint obito againd

 

[Akastukifun]

Are you people forgetting Everything Obito taught kakashi? He tought him his ninja way, "Those that break the rules and regulations are scum. But those who abandon their comrades are worse than scum! If I'm going to be called scum either way, I'd rather break the rules! And if that's not being a proper shinobi, then I'll destroy that idea!"

There is no way Tobi=/=Obito. He is completely different as it comes to goals, thoughts, and personality.

However this doesn't mean "wow you nub, yous saw Tobi's Sharingan and Technique is somehow linked to kakashi", He has Obito's sharingan probably, the one that was supposedly crushed one. Tobi had collected a lot of sharingan, probably most of them from the Uchiha massacre, but he had most likely be attempting to gain theme earlier and after the massacre(attempting to gain Shisui's eye from danzo). My thoughts are that one of the Sharingan that tobi had gained was Obito's and saw the potential power in it, therefore he started to use it. Obito was generally a good kid(didn't unlock his sharingan till he was a Chunnin). He was a person who believed in a better future, and left his future in the Hands of Kakashi and his generation.

Tobi Can't be Uchiha Obito, but he MOST LIKELY has Obito's crushed sharingan.

People seem to think just because Tobi has a similar ability to Kakashi he has to be obito. I like this scenario better. :ice:

 

[Ryu sannin]

kakashi now that tobi st is wind that way lighning cut the mask....jesus this kid now are goin to brint obito againd

What???

 

[Rico Uchiha]

Yeah! Like people stated before... I think it IS Kagami Uchiha. Like I predicted a while ago.
But now I have a feeling that he is Obito's father.

This explains why he has that same ability. Why he knows Guy and Kakashi. I think Rin has seen something and that's why she had to disappear. The only way to make this happen without a trace is to teleport her.

Other motives on why he probably is Kagami are under my banner ^_^

And I expect an awesome flashback where we see that Tobi discovers Kakashi's ability for the first time

 

[The Only Shinobi]

Tobi justu is a uchiha blood tech, has the name so no duh as for next chap kishi gonna troll an we'll be back with sasuke or madara, i got a feeling Sasuke an Oro vs Madara gonna happen once sasuke learns what he gonna learn, be crazy if madara is sasuke grandaddy thru mom any1

 

[poundz29]

awesome. 5 stars. kakashi is a monster.

 

[NarutoTheory]

Just as I predicted, Tobi uses 1 jutsu which allows him to "partially" go into the other dimension so he becomes visible but intangible.

Im just wondering now, if we've seen Kakashi in the afterlife see obito, rin and minato, wouldn't that mean they're all dead? He met his father too during the pain arc when pain fought Kakashi.

Im glad to know my theory about 2 sharingan eyes having some kind of link would turn out to be true but does this mean they can keep hitting Tobi if he tries to go intangible? If so I believe either hes in for a beating or hes gunna have to give it all hes got now.

If only they have revived jiraiya, shisui and konoha's white fang this war would of been so much more interesting. Especially the white fang (Kakashi's dad) who was said to be so powerful that the legendary sannin were pale in comparison.

Excellent chapter and I look forward to the unmasking of Tobi either at the end of chapter 599 or most likely for the celebrating of chapter 600. A friend had told me kishimoto had written on his blog Tobi will be unmasked this month confirmed.

Oh and If you've seen the Naruto movie #2: Bonds you know how far kishimoto will go for personality switching. Any good character can become evil, the man from the movie looked like such a nice guy im sure no-one would of expected him to turn out to be the villain, much like how people say there's no way obito would turn out to be Tobi and with evil intentions (I don't support the obito theory just stating facts).

 

[robert31393]

AHHHHH this chapter was AWESOME!!!!
Although I have this strange problem with Kakashi... for some reason i just cannot bring myself to like him Oh well, im pretty sure he will be dead soon anyway! All is well!

And I too am going to turn on the rest of the Naruto community and jump on the Obitobi bandwagon. Kakashi's eye is Obito's eye so with Kakashi's Kamui being able to transport stuff into Tobi's natural dimension it is only another thing that connects the Obito theory to the truth... the reason he was able to fight with Minato in a body other than his is that he fights using a vessel, kinda like how pain did but he does it from another dimension through some sort of crazy sharinnegan technique he has.
If not... Kishi needs to stop trolling us! :')

kishimoto wouldnt make tobi's identity that predictable.he didnt do it with itachi's true identity so i'll doubt he will do it with tobi's. and there are so many reasons why obito cant be tobi and why tobi is the elder son of the sage of six paths

1.we all know tobi's jutsu.i believe he stayed in his dimension for years and thats why he was able to live through all these years.one thing that made me realize this was when he took foo and torune (danzou's bodyguards) hostage and left them in his dimension.dont you ever wonder how they managed to live for so long in tobi's dimension without food or water? probably tobi's dimension doesn't have rules of time and space.

2.we all know how tobi lied to everyone (including akatsuki) that he was madara...and most people would normally ask "how can you believe what tobi said, except the madara lie was true?" Well he didnt lie about the sage of six paths because jiraiya told the same story with less details.before tobi told the story of the sage at the kage summit, the sage story was believed to be a myth so people didnt know about the older son.Madara was the most feared human and uchiha in history.obviously people didnt know about the older son who was beyond madara at all other things,except popularity. Thats why tobi "chose" to be madara.no one wouldnt take him seriously if he told everyone that he was the son of the sage of six paths,because once again eveyone thought the sage was a myth.

3.when madara was revived,madara stated that nagato had finally grew up to revive him .how did madara knew about nagato? i think tobi shared his plans with madara before he died fighting the 1st hokage.it cant be obito because obito wasnt even born yet.read over chapter 559 and 560 to see what madara said.

4. eveyone knows that the rinnegan can only be gained if that individual has the dna of the uchiha and dna of the senju clan. and when madara revealed his rinnegan it surprised us all.how did madara gained the rinnegan? well i think tobi somehow gave his dna to madara so madara was able to unlock it when fighting the 1st hokage.samething with nagato.nagato was in the uzumaki clan and remember it was stated in the chapters that the uzumaki clan was distant relatives of the senju clan.so nagato already had dna of the senju clan so tobi also gave his dna to nagato to unlock his rennigan. remember back when tobi kills konan, he says that he was the one who gave nagato his eyes and he wants them back.

5.and for the people who thinks tobi is obito's father.why would kishimoto make tobi a character that was never introduced to the storyline before? that wouldnt make any sense at all.

 

[HokageTobiramaXx]

kishimoto would make tobi's identity that predictable.he didnt do it with itachi's true identity so i'll doubt he will do it with tobi's. and there are so many reasons why obito cant be tobi and why tobi is the elder son of the sage of six paths

1.we all know tobi's jutsu.i believe he stayed in his dimension for years and thats why he was able to live through all these years.one thing that made me realize this was when he took foo and torune (danzou's bodyguards) hostage and left them in his dimension.dont you ever wonder how they managed to live for so long in tobi's dimension without food or water? probably tobi's dimension doesn't have rules of time and space.

2.we all know how tobi lied to everyone (including akatsuki) that he was madara...and most people would normally ask "how can you believe what tobi said, except the madara lie was true?" Well he didnt lie about the sage of six paths because jiraiya told the same story with less details.before tobi told the story of the sage at the kage summit, the sage story was believed to be a myth so people didnt know about the older son.Madara was the most feared human and uchiha in history.obviously people didnt know about the older son who was beyond madara at all other things,except popularity. Thats why tobi "chose" to be madara.no one wouldnt take him seriously if he told everyone that he was the son of the sage of six paths,because once again eveyone thought the sage was a myth.

3.when madara was revived,madara stated that nagato had finally grew up to revive him .how did madara knew about nagato? i think tobi shared his plans with madara before he died fighting the 1st hokage.it cant be obito because obito wasnt even born yet.read over chapter 559 and 560 to see what madara said.

4. eveyone knows that the rinnegan can only be gained if that individual has the dna of the uchiha and dna of the senju clan. and when madara revealed his rinnegan it surprised us all.how did madara gained the rinnegan? well i think tobi somehow gave his dna to madara so madara was able to unlock it when fighting the 1st hokage.samething with nagato.nagato was in the uzumaki clan and remember it was stated in the chapters that the uzumaki clan was distant relatives of the senju clan.so nagato already had dna of the senju clan so tobi also gave his dna to nagato to unlock his rennigan. remember back when tobi kills konan, he says that he was the one who gave nagato his eyes and he wants them back.

1. Probably not (as in you're right)

2. Don't know if he's the son, but you'd be right there as well. He has abilities similar to Obito's. My thought is he is using obitos sharingan...as to who he is, no clue.

3.It's not obito, I know that much, it would be the stupidest thing ever.

4. Madara unlocked Rinnenhan because he obtained DNA from hashirama..
Tobi probably have nagato the Sharingan, and him being uzumaki (distant relatives from the Senju) obtained the rinnengan probably.


Most of this is speculation, I can't wait to find out the truth though. U_U

 

[potheadsage]

I think more and more that Tobi is Uchiha Kagami, who had a son - Obito. It would explain a lot (same MS jutsu, he knows Kakashi, holds grudge against Konoha - the Yellow flash saved Kakashi, but was unable to save his own son).

Otherwise, great chapter

Never thought about it that way it could be true but there is no evidence to support it. But i would definately except that if it came out

 

[Ryuzaki1]

awesome

 

[Cloudfx]

Kakashi is going to be blind in one eye by the end of this war but it is a small price to pay for beating Tobi I guess.

^^^
Same thing I was thinking right now while reading these comments I came about yours haha well If he does make it standing till the end on pure will,
I definetly was picturing him falling and eye blind or die slowly

 

[Sembei]

Amazing chapter! But I still don't get why the fact of being just one jutsu is an advantage or something

 

[NarutoTheory]

kishimoto wouldnt make tobi's identity that predictable.he didnt do it with itachi's true identity so i'll doubt he will do it with tobi's. and there are so many reasons why obito cant be tobi and why tobi is the elder son of the sage of six paths

1.we all know tobi's jutsu.i believe he stayed in his dimension for years and thats why he was able to live through all these years.one thing that made me realize this was when he took foo and torune (danzou's bodyguards) hostage and left them in his dimension.dont you ever wonder how they managed to live for so long in tobi's dimension without food or water? probably tobi's dimension doesn't have rules of time and space.

2.we all know how tobi lied to everyone (including akatsuki) that he was madara...and most people would normally ask "how can you believe what tobi said, except the madara lie was true?" Well he didnt lie about the sage of six paths because jiraiya told the same story with less details.before tobi told the story of the sage at the kage summit, the sage story was believed to be a myth so people didnt know about the older son.Madara was the most feared human and uchiha in history.obviously people didnt know about the older son who was beyond madara at all other things,except popularity. Thats why tobi "chose" to be madara.no one wouldnt take him seriously if he told everyone that he was the son of the sage of six paths,because once again eveyone thought the sage was a myth.

3.when madara was revived,madara stated that nagato had finally grew up to revive him .how did madara knew about nagato? i think tobi shared his plans with madara before he died fighting the 1st hokage.it cant be obito because obito wasnt even born yet.read over chapter 559 and 560 to see what madara said.

4. eveyone knows that the rinnegan can only be gained if that individual has the dna of the uchiha and dna of the senju clan. and when madara revealed his rinnegan it surprised us all.how did madara gained the rinnegan? well i think tobi somehow gave his dna to madara so madara was able to unlock it when fighting the 1st hokage.samething with nagato.nagato was in the uzumaki clan and remember it was stated in the chapters that the uzumaki clan was distant relatives of the senju clan.so nagato already had dna of the senju clan so tobi also gave his dna to nagato to unlock his rennigan. remember back when tobi kills konan, he says that he was the one who gave nagato his eyes and he wants them back.

1. That's what I thought as well.

2. I highly doubt the elder son theory, only the other younger son could match his abilities and its just too irrational. But in fact it could be Izuna who was presumed dead and blind before death. He knew how much fear his brothers name brought.

3. I don't think it'd be obito, if it was, it'd be pretty stupid. The most I hope out of it being Tobi is the amazing reaction of Kakashi and Obito revealing that rin is still alive and is in his alternate dimension.

4. Madara took hashirama's senju DNA, implanted himself with it, acquired the rinnegan shortly before his death, found nagato and implanted him with the rinnegan in hopes that he would one day revive Madara. Tobi was supposed to ensure this goal went smoothly.

 

[robert31393]

1. Probably not (as in you're right)

2. Don't know if he's the son, but you'd be right there as well. He has abilities similar to Obito's. My thought is he is using obitos sharingan...as to who he is, no clue.

3.It's not obito, I know that much, it would be the stupidest thing ever.

4. Madara unlocked Rinnenhan because he obtained DNA from hashirama..
Tobi probably have nagato the Sharingan, and him being uzumaki (distant relatives from the Senju) obtained the rinnengan probably.


Most of this is speculation, I can't wait to find out the truth though. U_U

yes finally someone agrees with me. there is no way it is obito.just because tobi and kakashi have similar eye jutsus doesnt mean it is obito. kishimoto would never make tobi's identity that predictable

 

[RiceisNice]

Okay so what I am getting from this is the chapter is the following.
1. Tobi's S/t and ghost mode aren't different jutsu's
2. To make himself "ghost" Tobi basically puts his physical body in his other dimension
3. Whilst his body is in the other dimension attack in the real world can't hit him
4. When Kakashi uses Kumai, it transports the object from the real world to Tobi's dimension where his physical body is
5. Tobi's mask cracked because the kunai that was kumai'ed hit Tobi's physical body in the other dimensiom
6. The rasengan hit because it went to the other dimension then hit Tobi's physical body

Seem legit?

Yes! This means that any attack they throw at him can now hit him, if they can't in the physical world, then they just transport it to the the dimension. At this point, its just a matter of tobi physically dodging and deflecting their attacks rather than becoming intangible.Huge problem for tobi, can't wait for next chapter. It seems i run thru these chapters in like 1 minute! It seems like tobi's identity will be reveled in the next 2 chapters or so!