[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

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Very good observation. ive been watching tobi for a while as the manga goes on and he has never been seen wthout the sharingan on and activated...whoever he is he must have got hs eyes transplanted and he must have an enormous chakra base bcuz kakashi cant unseal his sharingan either and he haS TO cover his in order to not get weak and chakra drained, and in the case of the rinnegan we now no its a sharingan progression that can be used back an forth in a fight. i dont think its shisui tho cuz he was significantly taller than itachi when they first met. He does have many sharingan eyes collected so its just a wonder where he got his very first one.
Sigh. I've said it before, i'll say it again. Itachi had his sharingan active 24/7. Does that mean his eyes were transplanted? No. The only time i can remember when he turned it off was after he used Mangekyo twice in a row to escape Jiraiya in Part 1. Just because Tobi can keep it up all the time doesn't mean that he's not an uchiha. Besides, if he couldn't turn it off, i'm sure someone would have noticed them much sooner than when he revealed them to Pain (and the audience). For all we know, he had them off while he acted like an idiot, and only turned them on when he got serious.
 

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Sigh. I've said it before, i'll say it again. Itachi had his sharingan active 24/7. Does that mean his eyes were transplanted? No. The only time i can remember when he turned it off was after he used Mangekyo twice in a row to escape Jiraiya in Part 1. Just because Tobi can keep it up all the time doesn't mean that he's not an uchiha. Besides, if he couldn't turn it off, i'm sure someone would have noticed them much sooner than when he revealed them to Pain (and the audience). For all we know, he had them off while he acted like an idiot, and only turned them on when he got serious.
Let me just correct you on Itachi's eyes. He doesnt always have his sharingan on, if you remember the Kisame/Itachi vs Kakashi/Gai/Kurenai/Asuma fight, even Kisame tells him its not safe to have his sharingan open for too long.
 

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Let me just correct you on Itachi's eyes. He doesnt always have his sharingan on, if you remember the Kisame/Itachi vs Kakashi/Gai/Kurenai/Asuma fight, even Kisame tells him its not safe to have his sharingan open for too long.
But for all the times we've seen him (with the exception of flashbacks and when he ran out of chakra) he's had it up, whether he needed to or not. who's to say Tobi isn't the same way? Besides, he's obviously older than Itachi, and Itachi's chakra was subpar anyways, so it's logical to assume that he would probably have more control over how long he can keep his sharingan out. Now i'm not saying that he DIDN'T have a transplant. What i'm saying is that it's just as like that he didn't as much as did. It irks me to see ppl ignore certain facts and try to say that their theory is absolutely correct when there is evidence or proof otherwise. People like to forget that Tobi used to have 2 sharingans, too, when he fought Konan. People like to forget that Tobi was a full grown adult when he took on the 4th Hokage (Kakashi was still be a teen). People like to dismiss the fact that Obito was a pacifist with no motives against the leaf village (can you tell where i'm heading with this, Tobi=Obito conspiratists?) Not to mention that he had just awoken his sharingan moments before getting crushed, which would completely rule out his Mangekyo activating. Lastly, the fact that Obito is Tobi with an extra "o" is a complete coincidence. It doesn't spell that way in Japanese, and Tobi means "kite" which is meant to relate to a proverb with Sasuke's team, Taka [Hawk].
 
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But for all the times we've seen him (with the exception of flashbacks and when he ran out of chakra) he's had it up, whether he needed to or not. who's to say Tobi isn't the same way? Besides, he's obviously older than Itachi, and Itachi's chakra was subpar anyways, so it's logical to assume that he would probably have more control over how long he can keep his sharingan out. Now i'm not saying that he DIDN'T have a transplant. What i'm saying is that it's just as like that he didn't as much as did. It irks me to see ppl ignore certain facts and try to say that their theory is absolutely correct when there is evidence or proof otherwise. People like to forget that Tobi used to have 2 sharingans, too, when he fought Konan. People like to forget that Tobi was a full grown adult when he took on the 4th Hokage (Kakashi was still be a teen). People like to dismiss the fact that Obito was a pacifist with no motives against the leaf village (can you tell where i'm heading with this, Tobi=Obito conspiratists?) Not to mention that he had just awoken his sharingan moments before getting crushed, which would completely rule out his Mangekyo activating. Lastly, the fact that Obito is Tobi with an extra "o" is a complete coincidence. It doesn't spell that way in Japanese, and Tobi means "kite" which is meant to relate to a proverb with Sasuke's team, Taka [Hawk].

good points but i wasnt saying he was obito i was jus sayin tha he probAbly cud be sumone else posing as the uchiha.. ur right in the point of chakra control cuz he is amazing with that as far as i see...in terms of them not seeing the sharingan before he may have not given anyonelse but pain an konan the opportunity to see it...remember he wasnt around(well in th forefront) when sasori was alive and well same as when he wasnt around in the forefront when oro was there either(an remember this is the gy that told yahiko tospawn akatsuki an took over behind the scenes when yahiko died) so keeping ur face out of the right view to see it is easy..a mean shit kakashi had to take a gooood stare to see it when they first met... an itachi wud think he ws a uchiha back then cuz he cud read watever is in the nanko shrine(again cuz he may have obtained the sharngan from other means so he no how to use it) and also cuz he slipped through the defenses(seeing how good a spy kabuto was it really dont surprise me that a really good spy cud have slipped in or seeing that he met madara an planned this madara cd have told him all the ins an outs before he died IJS) all im saying is i wudnt be surprised if he wasnt a uchiha at all jus a splendid ninja in alliance with madara who learned the use o the eyes.
 
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Although we all had ideas on how this chapter would be; I think that whether it met or missed those ideas, we can all agree this was a great chapter. I liked seeing more with Itachi's perspective and how his parents still had high opinions of him etc. The last image is also obviously a very powerful one. Now I wonder how Sasuke is going to act in the next chapter...:shrug:
 

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Dramatic and brilliant chapter.

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- Madara also beginning to disappear.
- Finally learning the events behind the massacre.
- Seeing Hiruzen with the other Council members.
- Seeing Shisui.
- Danzo's conversation with Itachi.
- Fugaku and Mikoto's final moment.
- Itachi's goodbye to Sasuke.

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- Nothing at all.
 

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good chapter but didnt xspect to much info from Itachi he didnt know Tobi was not Madara in fact he thought he was Madara . I hope next chapter we get to see naruto but sasuke i think will meet up with his former taka team or there was no reason to show them excape and find that secret scroll oro hiden cave i think we will see many twists and turns in the story to come just my guess
 

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i thought this weeks chapter was a little on the obvious side, i mean we already knew that itachi was ordered to kill his clan and we also knew that donzou had a part in it. but the part that touched me was when itachi told sauske he will love him forever.
 

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mayb kishi will jump to naruto nw and give the suspense for sasuke ?
dont think tobi's id will reveal yet, and mayb sakura and the others will appear in nxt chp?
only sasuke and itachi's part is in all the recent chapters, time for a change. :)
 

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This maybe a stupid observation but Tobi's hair is a lot longer and looks like Madara's when talking to Itachi compared to when he fought Minato which is hair is like now and his fight with Minato was like probably 3-4 years after.. Unless he Tobi didn't cut his hair hahaha
Fool itachi was a young boy when tobi fought minato..have you not been reading the manga?

2/5 for the fact retelling an already confirmed fact in the manga....I would agree to quit this manga if Madara goes away.I will return when tobi is revealed and that's about it.Really shit storyline if your going to have one of the God Shinobies in narutoverse disappear as soon as he is about to obliterate the 5 kages.To top that off why the **** would any kage survive this battle????Seriously man this is some bull shit if Madara goes away -_-:sy:
 

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good points but i wasnt saying he was obito i was jus sayin tha he probAbly cud be sumone else posing as the uchiha.. ur right in the point of chakra control cuz he is amazing with that as far as i see...in terms of them not seeing the sharingan before he may have not given anyonelse but pain an konan the opportunity to see it...remember he wasnt around(well in th forefront) when sasori was alive and well same as when he wasnt around in the forefront when oro was there either(an remember this is the gy that told yahiko tospawn akatsuki an took over behind the scenes when yahiko died) so keeping ur face out of the right view to see it is easy..a mean shit kakashi had to take a gooood stare to see it when they first met... an itachi wud think he ws a uchiha back then cuz he cud read watever is in the nanko shrine(again cuz he may have obtained the sharngan from other means so he no how to use it) and also cuz he slipped through the defenses(seeing how good a spy kabuto was it really dont surprise me that a really good spy cud have slipped in or seeing that he met madara an planned this madara cd have told him all the ins an outs before he died IJS) all im saying is i wudnt be surprised if he wasnt a uchiha at all jus a splendid ninja in alliance with madara who learned the use o the eyes.
See, thats logical and i'm with you on that one. There's evidence both ways. And i wasn't pointing you out for believeing Tobi to be Obito. You seem smarter than that. I just thought it would be a good time to address those theories. I just have a thing against people that act like their theory is absolutely correct and ignore the facts (which you weren't doing, but i've seen it enough that i had to say something). Regardless, whoever Tobi is, he knows what he's doing. He's got some background on the Uchiha, at the very least
 
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I Just Want To Let Everyone KNow That MADARA Isn't Going Anywhere!!! He'll Be kicking the Hokage Ass Next Chapter :) And Chapter Was Pretty Lame 2/5 Nothing We Didnt KNow Already Fail Kishi
 
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All them that kishi wanted to kill are already dead.(jman,itachi,kisame,konan,yamato,anko,etc) if no kage died during 5kage summit, it means kishi is keeping them,even tsunade and the fence-sitter.
 
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