[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 586 Discussions and 587 Predictions
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yes.. the masked madara also has mentioned it when he fought against konan.. but, he is actually not an uchiha.. he is someone that has senju dna too. he is like danzo. but he managed to advanced the technique better than danzo.. but, izanagi that real uchiha madara used at the battlefield against the 5 kage is the real amazing izanagi..plus, he also had senju dna. so his recovery is more fast.. i think im starting to liking UCHIHA MADARA
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It's not certain that Tobi isn't an Uchiha. It's more likely that he's Izuna than it is for him to not be an Uchiha at all. As for Madara Uchiha vs the 5 kage, he didn't use Izanagi. Him having Senju DNA is irrelevant to Izanagi, it's a base level jutsu that leaves the user blind after using it. Anyone who has even a basic sharingan can do it, it's just a forbidden technique because it leaves the user blind in exchange for turning a moment of reality into an illusion.
Tobi showed a much more powerful Izanagi than Danzo, making just one Sharingan last for between 5-10 minutes, while Danzo could only make it last for 1 minute per eye. I have a really hard time understanding why people keep insisting that Senju DNA is a requisite for Izanagi, it's an Uchiha technique. Not a Senju technique.
Hashirama didn't know Izanagi, he couldn't perform the technique. Nothing about Izanagi indicates that it's anything other than an ocular jutsu, which are a signature move of the Uchiha.
All Senju DNA could ever do for an Ocular jutsu like Izanagi, is buff the duration to be more useful over a long battle. Which is what both Danzo and Tobi did with it. It's not as if they acquired Senju DNA and it unlocked Izanagi for them.
That's just ridiculous.
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Izanagi/Izanami isn't a true genjutsu. It's a mix of genjutsu & ninjutsu. I think Uchiha clan having very strong spiritual chakra(power of sage) got the ability to shift reality to illusion & vice versa at will. Senju clan has very strong physical chakra(will of the sage). So if Izanagi/Izanami is used with the Senju's powers, it drastically increases the powers of shifting reality & illusion. Put bijuu's chakra( which are powerful than even the sage's own), then you're basically a creator like the sage himself who can create life at will. I don't think these jutsus require Senju DNA, it's more like a steroid or catalyst, drastically increasing the potency. I also think genetic link with either clan helps( Tobi's izanagi lasted at least 5 minutes compared to Danzo's 1 minute).
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I completely agree where you are going with this, but the only difference i believe is Kabuto had Madara prepared b4 he even had learned the summon himself. what im trying to say is this....
If Orochimaru was the original summoner, and he had Kabuto create the special body used for the summon then had him seal it away for later use, then that would mean Madara would remain in the game if Kabuto releases the edo's. He eventually learned the jutsu himself (maybe b4 or after Oru's death) so he started creating his own like he once did for Oruchimaru.
idk, i'm just strongly in favor for us to be finding out here in some future chapter that Madara was never in Kabuto's control. He is too big of a player in this war for him to take such a quick exit off the stage.
edo madara... has nothing against the 5 kages without hashirama's cells..... i think kishi will show us the rest of the epic battle before itachi forces kabuto to undo the Edo tensei.... i see the five kages on the brinks of their death and as soon as edo madara is about to land his finishing touch kabuto finally releases the edo and the five kages survives and suddenly collapses....
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Kabuto: Explain! How was I able to get inside your genjutsu.
Itachi: It was no simple task, Izanami requires three things. The first, is of course the eye of the user, the second, I must make contact to the person I wish to use the technique on and finally...the person himself has to make contact with me in order to complete the technique.
Kabuto: !! I see....so back then, when I stabbed your clone, that's when the loop began...and when I cut you in half, that's when it ended....
Itachi: ...
Kabuto: So in other words, I'm stuck in this forever unless I do one of two things...
Kabuto: End the Edo Tensei or kill myself.
Itachi: Correct.
Kabuto: hmmm Itachi....even in death...you have all these surprises kukuk.
Itachi: ?
Kabuto: Did you really think you would win that easily?
Kabuto: It's like Deidara said....those damn eyes...no talent...just power.
Itachi: Yet here you are defeated.
Kabuto smiles
Kabuto: Well, it's like you said, every technique has a weakness.
Itachi: Yes..but you lost your opportunity to seize that weakness. It's over now.
Kabuto: Itachi..Itachi...how wrong you are.
Itachi: ....
Kabuto: You want me to end edo tensei?
Kabuto forms hand seals
Itachi: !! He's really doing it.
Kabuto: Done.
Back in the real world
Itachi starts crumbling
Sasuke: Wait what? What's going on? What happened?
Itachi: He..actually did it...he ended it? no...
Kabuto: I've chosen my destiny carefully, and you failed to realize what I truly did.
Itachi/Sasuke:?
Kabuto: I only had three of my pawns running around. One, is standing in front of me.
Itachi: ...?
Kabuto: The other, the second Tsuchikage, who's in the battlefield against the 5 kages.
Scene switch to that battlefield
Muu: !?
Muu starts crumbling
Muu: No...
Sasuke: And who's the third one?
Kabuto: Uchiha Madara.
Sasuke/Itachi; !?
Sasuke: What?
Itachi: It means nothing, he's gone now..
Kabuto: Is he now?
Itachi: You're bluffing, you ended your technique.
Kabuto: Yes. All MY summons are defeated.
Itachi: !?
Kabuto: The Second Tsuchikage summoned Uchiha Madara, not me. And now he will be gone forever, like you.
Sasuke: Shit...
Itachi's body is basically gone.
Itachi: Sasuke...quickly look into my eyes..
Itachi: Tsukyomi!
Sasuke: !
Sasuke is in a dark place with Itachi.
Sasuke: I get it...
Itachi: I don't have a lot of time....even if I'm in tsukyomi. My presence in this world is fading away rather quickly.
Sasuke: What happened...
Itachi; I was unaware that he used a third party to summon him. I failed once again.
Sasuke: ....what can I do.
Itachi: Fix my mistakes, do what I could not do. You're stronger than me now, and have my eyes. Kill Kabuto, and then eliminate Uchiha Madara.
Sasuke: Wait...there are so many thing I wanted to ask you about!
Itachi: I'm sorry.....maybe next time little brother.
Right when Itachi is about to poke Sasuke in the head he vanishes.
Back in the real world.
Sasuke: ....
Kabuto: One down, one to go.
Sasuke: Just watch.....watch me brother! (EMS activates)
Chapter End.
Itachi: It was no simple task, Izanami requires three things. The first, is of course the eye of the user, the second, I must make contact to the person I wish to use the technique on and finally...the person himself has to make contact with me in order to complete the technique.
Kabuto: !! I see....so back then, when I stabbed your clone, that's when the loop began...and when I cut you in half, that's when it ended....
Itachi: ...
Kabuto: So in other words, I'm stuck in this forever unless I do one of two things...
Kabuto: End the Edo Tensei or kill myself.
Itachi: Correct.
Kabuto: hmmm Itachi....even in death...you have all these surprises kukuk.
Itachi: ?
Kabuto: Did you really think you would win that easily?
Kabuto: It's like Deidara said....those damn eyes...no talent...just power.
Itachi: Yet here you are defeated.
Kabuto smiles
Kabuto: Well, it's like you said, every technique has a weakness.
Itachi: Yes..but you lost your opportunity to seize that weakness. It's over now.
Kabuto: Itachi..Itachi...how wrong you are.
Itachi: ....
Kabuto: You want me to end edo tensei?
Kabuto forms hand seals
Itachi: !! He's really doing it.
Kabuto: Done.
Back in the real world
Itachi starts crumbling
Sasuke: Wait what? What's going on? What happened?
Itachi: He..actually did it...he ended it? no...
Kabuto: I've chosen my destiny carefully, and you failed to realize what I truly did.
Itachi/Sasuke:?
Kabuto: I only had three of my pawns running around. One, is standing in front of me.
Itachi: ...?
Kabuto: The other, the second Tsuchikage, who's in the battlefield against the 5 kages.
Scene switch to that battlefield
Muu: !?
Muu starts crumbling
Muu: No...
Sasuke: And who's the third one?
Kabuto: Uchiha Madara.
Sasuke/Itachi; !?
Sasuke: What?
Itachi: It means nothing, he's gone now..
Kabuto: Is he now?
Itachi: You're bluffing, you ended your technique.
Kabuto: Yes. All MY summons are defeated.
Itachi: !?
Kabuto: The Second Tsuchikage summoned Uchiha Madara, not me. And now he will be gone forever, like you.
Sasuke: Shit...
Itachi's body is basically gone.
Itachi: Sasuke...quickly look into my eyes..
Itachi: Tsukyomi!
Sasuke: !
Sasuke is in a dark place with Itachi.
Sasuke: I get it...
Itachi: I don't have a lot of time....even if I'm in tsukyomi. My presence in this world is fading away rather quickly.
Sasuke: What happened...
Itachi; I was unaware that he used a third party to summon him. I failed once again.
Sasuke: ....what can I do.
Itachi: Fix my mistakes, do what I could not do. You're stronger than me now, and have my eyes. Kill Kabuto, and then eliminate Uchiha Madara.
Sasuke: Wait...there are so many thing I wanted to ask you about!
Itachi: I'm sorry.....maybe next time little brother.
Right when Itachi is about to poke Sasuke in the head he vanishes.
Back in the real world.
Sasuke: ....
Kabuto: One down, one to go.
Sasuke: Just watch.....watch me brother! (EMS activates)
Chapter End.
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While I agree that Itachi probably won't end up talking with Sasuke, I already told someone this earlier. Muu only brought Madara's coffin onto the battlefield, but Kabuto performed the ritual to resurrect him long before the war started.
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I loved this chapter. Inzanami is cooler than what I was expecting. Wis they get back to naruto and tobi though. I think the next couple of chapters will focus on the five kages fight with that freak of nature uchiha/senju mix. I always loved itachi I hate to see him go again.
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Here are the definite possibilities of whats going to happen.
In this next chapter we will find more out about Izanami. Either Kabuto will escape this somehow by either releasing the edo tensei and then it is a battle between Sasuke and Kabuto and Sasuke will have a change of heart during all of this.
Or Itachi takes this time to tell Sasuke the truth of what happened and what Sasuke wants to know. The chapter will end with the first part of a flashback. In some chapter Itachi says he has to tell Sasuke something but only after this battle. I'm predicting it is going to be "I am proud of you!" during all of this time we find out the truth and Itachi's perspective of the massacre. I don't think kishi is not going to not have Itachi and Sasuke speak just because its been said multiple times that they will, or that Itachi has been lying and there is nothing he can say but few words and those few words will make Sasuke good again. In some point of all of this the edo tensei is going to be released after Sasuke hears everything and either Itachi will have killed Kabuto or Sasuke will kill him directly after Kabuto is released. During all of this we will probably get a flashback to the kage fight and madara will be close to killing them all, but then his edo tensei will be canceled and the five kage are saved. We then will go back to the Tobi and Naruto fight and truthfully I don't think any fight will take place, I mean it said that the war climax was Tobi vs Naruto Kakashi Bee and Gai, Madara vs the 5 Kage, and Sasuke and Itachi vs Kabuto. But think about it maybe the fight with Naruto vs the tailed beast was Naruto vs Tobi and the fight is over cause we haven't had a flashback to them in a while. ANYWAY I think before Tobi and Naruto clash the Konoha 11 will show up at the end of a chapter. Also Naruto is exhausted I don't think he will be fighting, I think Tobi will be like "Hmm there are many of them" and retreat back to the bones graveyard or where Kabuto is. Tobi will be surprised to see Kabuto dead, not sense Zetsu, and Sasuke there. Sasuke now knowing what he has to do to help save the ninja world, and learned the truth from Itachi himself and the truth about Tobi, Sasuke prepares for battle against Tobi. He loses miserably I think and takes his eyes or something. But I doubt his eyes will be taken. Tobi will then begin the moons eye plan. During this Naruto finds Sasuke they team up and defeat Tobi. During this Sasuke or Naruto will activate the rinnegan by certain means. I only say Naruto because he has the sages soul sealed inside of him because his soul is sealed into the nine tails. Naruto is slowly becoming the sage of six paths the first steps are combining with the nine tails each progression he takes in mastering the nine tails he resembles the sage in some capacity. Lastly, Madara will return after the edo tensei is sealed. Madara will be revived by whatever means Tobi/Nagato had planned on originally.
In this next chapter we will find more out about Izanami. Either Kabuto will escape this somehow by either releasing the edo tensei and then it is a battle between Sasuke and Kabuto and Sasuke will have a change of heart during all of this.
Or Itachi takes this time to tell Sasuke the truth of what happened and what Sasuke wants to know. The chapter will end with the first part of a flashback. In some chapter Itachi says he has to tell Sasuke something but only after this battle. I'm predicting it is going to be "I am proud of you!" during all of this time we find out the truth and Itachi's perspective of the massacre. I don't think kishi is not going to not have Itachi and Sasuke speak just because its been said multiple times that they will, or that Itachi has been lying and there is nothing he can say but few words and those few words will make Sasuke good again. In some point of all of this the edo tensei is going to be released after Sasuke hears everything and either Itachi will have killed Kabuto or Sasuke will kill him directly after Kabuto is released. During all of this we will probably get a flashback to the kage fight and madara will be close to killing them all, but then his edo tensei will be canceled and the five kage are saved. We then will go back to the Tobi and Naruto fight and truthfully I don't think any fight will take place, I mean it said that the war climax was Tobi vs Naruto Kakashi Bee and Gai, Madara vs the 5 Kage, and Sasuke and Itachi vs Kabuto. But think about it maybe the fight with Naruto vs the tailed beast was Naruto vs Tobi and the fight is over cause we haven't had a flashback to them in a while. ANYWAY I think before Tobi and Naruto clash the Konoha 11 will show up at the end of a chapter. Also Naruto is exhausted I don't think he will be fighting, I think Tobi will be like "Hmm there are many of them" and retreat back to the bones graveyard or where Kabuto is. Tobi will be surprised to see Kabuto dead, not sense Zetsu, and Sasuke there. Sasuke now knowing what he has to do to help save the ninja world, and learned the truth from Itachi himself and the truth about Tobi, Sasuke prepares for battle against Tobi. He loses miserably I think and takes his eyes or something. But I doubt his eyes will be taken. Tobi will then begin the moons eye plan. During this Naruto finds Sasuke they team up and defeat Tobi. During this Sasuke or Naruto will activate the rinnegan by certain means. I only say Naruto because he has the sages soul sealed inside of him because his soul is sealed into the nine tails. Naruto is slowly becoming the sage of six paths the first steps are combining with the nine tails each progression he takes in mastering the nine tails he resembles the sage in some capacity. Lastly, Madara will return after the edo tensei is sealed. Madara will be revived by whatever means Tobi/Nagato had planned on originally.
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