[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 572 Discussion and 573 Predictions

[gaaradona]

i love this theory he has 8 tailed beasts chakra he only needs shukaku but maybe gaara has some like the kin and gin bros it in him forever and he can give it to naruto but maybe he'll just fight gedo and get it

 

[Sage of 6 Paths of Peace]

It's hard to say how he stayed alive but inzanagi would have to be the case. Or quite possibly since he is the direct descendant of the sage, he could have some form of the "long life span" that was passed down to the uzamaki clan. I know they would be off opposite sides of the tree since that blood line would have came from the youngest son. But I have to believe that the 2 sons of the sage shared both senju and uchia blood since the sage had both, and over time the 2 clans emerged. To me there is no other member in the naruto universe that could be that manipulative, display that much wisdom, than the eldest son. I believe he was there when the 1st hokage and madara fought, and it was by his hand they were actually killed.

There is no way Tobi is the sage, the beast would have recognized the sage and the sage would not be "using" the beast the way Tobi is. The 9 tails dispises Tobi because he reminds him of madara. The beast loved the sage and would immediately recognize him. Additionally the nine tails reffered to naruto as the sage when he sealed him back when he was learning to control kurama.

He cant be obito because obito was no where near Kakashi's level when they fought in the kakashi arc. Kakashi was appointed to captain of the squad and minato went off alone. That being said how would he develop so quickly as to be able to control the 9 tails only a few years later, and spar with the 4th hokage and kill Anbu members silently, just from training on his own for a few years. Come one people obito is dead! An he was to weak to pull off something like this.

The only uchia the manga never tells us about is the oldest son of the sage. We know the oldest killed the youngest out of anger from he father not choosing him as the successor. Every other uchia is listed as dead when itachi slaughtered the clan with the help of Tobi. We know itachi was bad ass but someone with equal or greater power would have to help him pull that off.

Additionally Tobi says "I am no one" I think that's a hint because of the way he felt when his father did not chose him. He felt like a nobody and cast aside. Y his father. Lastly to support it, the sage made a promise to the beast that thus would be reunited one day, I believe he knew what was in his sons hearts and that this would all unfold in the future and he attached some of his chakra, or wisdom Into the beast so that it could be used one day. Since the sage is said to be the creator of all things, seeing the future isnt far fetched. We know the great toad sage can see the future, why not the SOP?

Again I think Tobi has too much first hand experience as to what happened with the SOP, and all the history between the senju and uchia not to be someone extremely powerful. And lastly we know he had the rinnegan and gave it to nagato. The only other person we know for sure who had the rinnegan besides the sage was uchia madara and the sages eldest son, who was "given the saves eyes"

Also on the first page of 564, naruto and Tobi meet "head to head" this is classic kishi imagery. Think about it what does naruto stand for, the senju / will of fire and everything "Good" and Tobi is the opposite the Uchia - revenge, hatred everything "evil". They meet head to head like a clashing of ideas. The same way naruto and Saske clashed fist to fist. Naruto was in his 9 tails mode which allows him to "sense evil" right. So he went straight towards Tobi full speed with a headbutt. We saw him head butt gara and it made gara bleed so we know it has some effectiveness, and with 9 tailed mode should be a little more powerful. Now why didnt it even scratch his mask? I think it's because they actually "repelled" one another. They are direct opposites, it is the sages will passed onto the youngest son, and Tobi being the eldest son could not just phase directly through this energy. Tobi has to be the oldest son of the sage.

Also when madara enters the battle he says "this is his doing" madara knows Tobi's identity. And kabuto confirms it and says "he is HIS assistant" kabuto knows tobi's true identity. And madara was kabuto's trump card. So again what other character could warrant kabuto to take precautions? I dont think it was izuna because we see madara's eyes and it is the EMS. The only way he could have the EMS is by taking his brothers eyes. So if his brother stayed alive when his eyes were removed he would be useless, without the sharingan

I think your theory is very well thought out and has good facts to back it up. Personally I thought Tobi is Kagami Uchiha, who served in Tobirama Senju's team in the First Great Ninja war, but combining my theory with yours could it be possible that Kagami is the Sage's eldest son? Although I don't see how it would be possible for the Sage's eldest son to elongate his life, even with Izanagi.

 

[Sage of 6 Paths of Peace]

Also wouldn't it be interesting if Naruto could pull the tailed beasts into him because he has some of their chakra like when he seperated Kurama's chakra from him? Instead of seperating the body and chakra he would simply pull the beasts from the statue into himself when Tobi tries to extract Kurama from him.

 

[mjtuvok]

there was a story in the anime...
they were fillers i think... and naruto saved a pirncess...from a vilige, that was on a hill, and they had some jutsus, that could destroy whole viligies...
and there were some pictures, wich showed us an old man, who detonated a vilige...
couldnt it be the eddi vilige? what do you think?

actually i wasnt referring to the anime chapters (filers or otherwise) but rather the manga, chpts 500-510....I am not sure what you are referencing in the anime, must have missed that episode.

 

[Pube]

To which Kabuto replies 'Not in detail... but I am on YOUR side... though I am unsure if the fake Madara will act as planned.' meaning that he's got his own plan and that he's not sure if Tobi will follow his plans.

I feel like hes saying he doesnt know Madara and Tobis plan...but hes unsure if Tobi will follow through with it, stating that Kabutos loyalty lies with Madara and not Tobi... Theres in no mention of Kabuto having some plan in that convo...Just Madara and tobis

 

[hearteaterx]

It's obvious that the tailed beasts, alongside their jinchuriki granted Naruto an as yet unrevealed power. Maybe Naruto will be able to use the jutsu that Tobi's 6 paths utilized, which all seemed to be themed with their tailed beasts. This would confirm the spoiler that Naruto will be able to use every elemental jutsu release. Or Naruto may have a hax new tailed beast cloak with a tail from each of the beasts. The 9 tails may contribute to the cloak, or maybe the cloak will overlap the 9 tails-cloak/susano'o Naruto has now...

 

[lion fang master]

Also, there is no need to the jinchiruki to die to obtain the bijuu inside him/her( like how the sand village extract and seal their 1 tail and or like akatsuke bijuu extraction), remember when tobi took control and summon the 9 tails from kuchina (the jinciruki at that time), she lived and fought the 9 tails. It is a matter of sealing and extraction jutsus types

That actually is not true kushina Naruto's mom would have died if not for uzumaki bloodline. If the 8 tails leaves bee, he would die. And for gaara he died but lady chiyo exchanged her life so gaara could get his back so there no way around it, that just the faith of who ever becomes a Jun.
Now I see a lot of post saying that Naruto was given chakra so I read the chap again, I really think that they did not give him chakra because there chakra have been transferred to the demonic statue, what they did is gave Naruto there powers because they felt he was the ture power the sage spoke about and from what we saw from gedo statue when it beat chouji and his dad u need some weird jutsu not power.

 

[Naruto Power]

what if when hes getting sucked in he uses sage and turns GM to stone

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

It's obvious that the tailed beasts, alongside their jinchuriki granted Naruto an as yet unrevealed power. Maybe Naruto will be able to use the jutsu that Tobi's 6 paths utilized, which all seemed to be themed with their tailed beasts. This would confirm the spoiler that Naruto will be able to use every elemental jutsu release. Or Naruto may have a hax new tailed beast cloak with a tail from each of the beasts. The 9 tails may contribute to the cloak, or maybe the cloak will overlap the 9 tails-cloak/susano'o Naruto has now...

Yea I think it's possible that he will use all elements but it would be wierd since he has only used wind...IMO

 

[Naruto Power]

ya and he mastered wind but you never see any moves with it.
same moves over and over what happened to 3 years of training with j-man? never give up and dont show any new moves till the very end or when you see sasuke.

been seeing lost of post about tobi. here is what i think. tobi is not even a uchita he is someone who would of hated them but studied with them in the leaf. He seen kakashi got a sharigan and got one. he has high chakra and has studied all ninja history but 1st apperance is sttack on the leaf. But I think he started with madara cause madara knows the plan. I think he was away from the leaf during the seconds run and messing with the mist making the bloody miss. Then after the 9tails attack he helped with the uchita massacre. cause when itachi is telling sasuke about madara he calls him a shell of his former self.
so I think tobi is the real madara student. this is why madara knows the plan because it is his and his student took over. hates the leaf and I bet every village he has messed with was a friend of the 1st. same as with madara and the midget olf man flash back. going around messing with what the 1st has done.

 

[squigles]

I feel like hes saying he doesnt know Madara and Tobis plan...but hes unsure if Tobi will follow through with it, stating that Kabutos loyalty lies with Madara and not Tobi... Theres in no mention of Kabuto having some plan in that convo...Just Madara and tobis

Well yeah, but don't you think that Kabuto has some plan of his own? I mean, he's only fighting in a great ninja war with Tobi, who is in control of MOST of the Bijuu. Typically when villains conspire together one of them plans on double crossing. I find it difficult that Kabuto would be willing to go along with Tobi's/Madara's plan without knowing the full details.

He's done the following thus far:
- Revived just about every deceased ninja who had great power, using Edo Tensei, including Madara, the Akatsuki, AND Itachi.
- Revealed that Tobi is in fact, NOT Madara.
- Shown that he has power that rivals that of Tobi himself.

I don't think that he would willingly allow Tobi to capture all 9 Bijuu, resurrect the 10 tails, then control everyone in the world through Infinite Tsukuyomi.

 

[99minutes]

Well yeah, but don't you think that Kabuto has some plan of his own? I mean, he's only fighting in a great ninja war with Tobi, who is in control of MOST of the Bijuu. Typically when villains conspire together one of them plans on double crossing. I find it difficult that Kabuto would be willing to go along with Tobi's/Madara's plan without knowing the full details.

He's done the following thus far:
- Revived just about every deceased ninja who had great power, using Edo Tensei, including Madara, the Akatsuki, AND Itachi.
- Revealed that Tobi is in fact, NOT Madara.
- Shown that he has power that rivals that of Tobi himself.

I don't think that he would willingly allow Tobi to capture all 9 Bijuu, resurrect the 10 tails, then control everyone in the world through Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Good point, +rep.
And yeah, he does have some plan of his own. He made it clear a while back when he said "I will learn the Sage's secrets".

Only time will tell what sneaky goals he has in his slithery mind D:

 

[docimian]

naruto has spectacular speed and chaka/tails that can be used as extra stretchy arms - no need to push himself around with wind jutsu ala danzo. he has a throwable wind element jutsu so there's no need to enhance kunais with it. im sure his kurama form can whip up a nice dust storm to obscure someones field of vison like ma did. is there anything we've seen a wind user do that he cant do without changing his style?

 

[99minutes]

naruto has spectacular speed and chaka/tails that can be used as extra stretchy arms - no need to push himself around with wind jutsu ala danzo. he has a throwable wind element jutsu so there's no need to enhance kunais with it. im sure his kurama form can whip up a nice dust storm to obscure someones field of vison like ma did. is there anything we've seen a wind user do that he cant do without changing his style?

Nice, very nice! Especially about the dust storm.

When facing enemy, dust storm + sensing negative emotions is the perfect match up. He can use the storm to obscure vision (like, duh!) and then locate and attack the enemy using his hostile sense.

Now... if only Naruto could think of that

 

[rashida chan]

great chapter as always

 

[lion fang master]

This weeks manga would be great provided kishi sticks to Naruto battle and not some kage battle or any other battles still going on. Also there was a toad that Naruto summoned earlier hope it get some screen time too.
Tobi is going to be surprised when he finds out something that the bijus had was passed on to Naruto and that his knowledge of bijus were limited cos he known he would be exposing then like he doing now.
I also wonder what Naruto is going to do with the dead kind body especially when they all have a pair of sharingan & renningan each. Maybe

 

[squigles]

Good point, +rep.
And yeah, he does have some plan of his own. He made it clear a while back when he said "I will learn the Sage's secrets".

Only time will tell what sneaky goals he has in his slithery mind D:

After some thought, I realized that the reason why Orochimaru was after the Sharingan, was to use it to read the Uchiha plates. Now, Kabuto might be after the same thing.

 

[Troyg39]

I wonder if Naruto is going to get the 8tails from Bee too. Maybe Bee is going to die or something

 

[Sage of 6 Paths of Peace]

After some thought, I realized that the reason why Orochimaru was after the Sharingan, was to use it to read the Uchiha plates. Now, Kabuto might be after the same thing.

I don't think that's the case because in a previous chapter when Madara was first resurrected he said that Orochimaru and his theory was proven right about what was on plates because Madara unlocked the Rinnegan so I don't see why he would need the Sharingan for that purpose

 

[squigles]

I don't think that's the case because in a previous chapter when Madara was first resurrected he said that Orochimaru and his theory was proven right about what was on plates because Madara unlocked the Rinnegan so I don't see why he would need the Sharingan for that purpose

Yes, my mistake. Now maybe his plan is to wait until Tobi gets the last two Bijuu, then steal them all?