First you don´t have to be an uchiha to have or use sharingan like kakashi, second we don´t know much about the jutsus from black zetsu only about the white one which i said is some kind of a mokuton clone and third i don´t think tobi has a million sharingans and rinnegans :|
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 567 Discussion and 568 Predictions
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rogervaldes10
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Not even in 10000 years?? He actually did it when he fought agains Minato.. and without having the rinnegan. Plus, he is now controlling two tailed beasts at their full form, and 4 more tailed beasts in his miniature form.Because it's not the same guy. That's aslo the reason why Kyuubi is so relaxed but the Jinchuurikis are strong so this might be different next chapter
I mean the Tobi we know now could never controll Kyuubi. Not even in 1000 years.
And the reason why the fox hasn't said who is the masked man is because he hasn't tried to summon him, just as Madara did. When Tobi extracted the kyubi form Kushina the Kyubi sais : "You.." (meaning he knows him). Who could be apart from Madara, or someone with his eyes, or chackra?
That's what i am wondering. But he can sense chakra can't he? They why isn't he afraid of Tobi he knews he wants him. The same goes for the headquarters they sensed Madara's huge chakra but didn't mention Tobi's. If they can sense Madara they can sense Tobi and compare those chakra's. Besides that Tobi is not afraid of the real Madara and think or is sure he can beat him, it would only weaken him. Orachimaru must have know Tobi was a fake maybe that's why he left.
You seemed to have forgotten that the amount of chakra for non uchicha users that the sharigan is insane and almost killed kakashi several times. Tobi uses it repeatedly and he can access the other dimension unlike kakashi. Tobi has probably all the sharingans of the uchicha clan that were massacred and from before. think about it, the one who has rinnegan can put it in any number of dead people provided he has the chakra. so it is probably possible with best level chakra. in addition, zetsu uses a type of earth jutsu to move forward not wraping from one dimension to another.
hey, tobi is not controlling the tailed beasts, but the jinchūriki (without the tailed beasts) which is not the same as them having the tailed beasts. not only they don't posses the tailed beasts to cancel the genjutsu, they probably don't have the same level of chakra. Tobi would not need the akatsuki to capture the tailed beasts if he can do it himself. another reason he cannot also summon the nine tails. further, It is mentioned in the previous chapter, even tobi is trying to conserve his chakra.
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rogervaldes10
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1.Look the chapter when Minato fights against Tobi.. you'll see that Tobi clearly does a summoning jutsu.. and summons the nine tails. Tobi, in that chapter, has a contract with the kyubi, just after making a genjutsu on him with the sharingan. I'm not lying just saying what happens in that chapter.
2.Tobi is controlling the jinchuriki, yes, being able to make that these jinchuriki, who hadn't controlled their tailed beasts except of Yagura (danzoo said: we know that there have been only 4 people who have been able to control a tailed beast: yagura, killer bee, hashirama senju and uchiha madara), making appear in their full beast mode. Controlling them just with a sharingan (genjutsu), and the power of the rinnegan.. Sorry but I think this is controlling a tailed beast. Obviously, he has some problems, because he is controlling 6 tailed beast, but he's been able to control, until now, one or two bijuus for a few time; while he's controlling 5 or 4 jinchurikis more.. Almost nothing.
3. As you know, Tobi is not overpowered now. He isn't able to do any jutsu, except of the jutsu's related to his eyes (space-time ninjutsu, genjutsu, rinnegan techniques..). That he needs help to obtain the bijuus is out of question. The most of them ara extremely protected by their villages. Plus, if a only person started to kill all the jinchurikis of all the villages it's obvious that people would have started to have fear of him. And that's not between his interests because he wanted, until the war, to be in the anonymatous. (Sorry for my english..)
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I think that the kyubi can not sense chakra. He can sense evilness, hatred.. If tobi tried to summon the kyubi, just as in the chapter he fights against Minato does, the kyubi would sense him just as with edo-Madara (that's what I think...). And notice that the headquarters sense Tobi (They knew that Tobi was going to clash with the jinchurikis Bee and Naruto.
My theory is that Tobi might not have chakra at all.. I mean, we have never seen Tobi making a jutsu ( a katon, or something). We've just seen him making his dojutsu techniques. So we should accept all he's said that "I'm an empty shelf of my former self" (or something like that..) Meaning that he has not all the chakra he used to have; he's just a body and a mind.
I think that there must be a way that Tobi is Madara (in another body, or only with his memories.. don't know). If not i bet for him being Izuna or the elder son of the sage of the six paths.
My good sir you are correct. Its proven Tobi can control tailed beast themselves. Kakashi himself saw that in order to control them with eye power alone it takes an extreme of chakra and I believe Tobi has to be right next to them for more control.
Tobi it seems has the 1st ability to even supress there powers of a tailed seeing what he did with the 5 tails and with his eye take away there will. He controls the jinchurriki with the paths.
i don´t say you´r not right but the jutsu zetsu uses to move through earth and wood is smiliar to tobis, when he disappears he is vanishing in his sharingan but he has to move somehow maybe because his mask is made of wood and kakashi only needs much power when he uses the mangekyo sharingan.
This is only a theory which sounds more likely to me than the madara theory we will see it soon :shrug: i hope :hypertobi:
Since tobi was branded with the 4th hokage FTGT, would that brand still be there after the 4th's death, and since naruto can use the FTGT can he track tobi like the 4th did?
and how was tobi able to track the 4th?
also i think tobi is trying to tire out the Hachibi and the kyubi before trying to capture them because as the battle goes on they are getting weaker but the edo's are not and it doesnt seem like tobi is anywhere near tired.
and how was tobi able to track the 4th?
also i think tobi is trying to tire out the Hachibi and the kyubi before trying to capture them because as the battle goes on they are getting weaker but the edo's are not and it doesnt seem like tobi is anywhere near tired.
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The shonen jump magazine is on break for a week. That means no Naruto, Bleach, One piece, Fairytail etc... this week and even longer.Weekly Shonen JUMP is taking a new year break and there won't be any new issues released until after. The message posted by the official Shueisha members was: "Weekly Shonen JUMP is on a break until the 2nd week in January, that means no Naruto, Bleach, Toriko or Reborn until then. One Piece won't be back until the 3rd week."
dont mislead the guy. it hasnt been confirmed(unless if u can provide me a valid & reliable source link). you should know that last year we got the chapter on christmas DAY when in fact we where told we wernt getting any chapter that week, instead we had a break after christmas and ended up getting a chapter after new years instead.
so there is a good chance there will be a chapter sunday, then a break next week, then a chapter on the 4th of jan 2012
sasuke the great
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True... Tobi has chakra rods in the jins but we are unsure if he uses the same tech as nagato, also he may be using a genjustsu, but is unlikely since tailed beasts can break their jins consciousness in under a genjutsu, but i agree Tobi is controlling the jins, but he is only able to control the jins who was able to transform and control their tailed beast power at will, who i believe are the Two, four, six, seven tail beast and also bee, if tobi controls the jins it wouldn't do any good if the jin cant control the bijuu, thats why i think the dolphin horse tried to attack tobi
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thats why he switched to the six and four tails.
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