[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 564 Discussion and 565 Predictions

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Re: Naruto Manga 564 Discussion and 565 Predictions

Haha nice, but for the people still disputing who Tobi is im pretty sure its...
Kagami Uchiha

During the First Shinobi World War he was part of a team consisting of Tobirama Senju, Hiruzen Sarutobi, Koharu Utatane, Homura Mitokado, Danzō Shimura, and Torifu Akimichi. He is assumed to have died at some later point, either before or during the Uchiha clan massacre.

1 Tobi and him have the same hairstyle

2 Hes a uchiha and has his own sharingan

3 He was trained by the second Hokage Tobirama , so its not too unbelivable that he could use Space time jutsu just like Tobi can

4 Before anyone tells me kishi wouldnt do this,keep in mind Tobi calls himself no body , this description fits him perfectly , almost everyone has forgotten him and who he was.

5 The time line we last see this character would match him with the current state of age we saw Tobi to be in , eg wrinkles etc and would also make him a possible candidate to have been at all 4 Great shinobi world wars

I cant seem to figure out a solid motive for his actions though , however im just guessing he overheard the plans for or saw the destruction of his clan which drove him to try and take revenge on the leaf village (using the 9 tailed fox) just like sasuke wants to.

Please leave a reply either agreeing with me or stating why you think its not him. I only listen to thought out arguments if your going to argue have back up proof, dont tell me its obito or someone else just because you think it is;)
Well many parts fit the Kagami theory but i believe that Tobi is a non Uchiha. Tbh i analyzed in some previous posts in this threads and i am bored atm to do it now ( :p ). Feel free to check the previous pages.

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In that picture yes its the same as Izuna's MS but i think that its just a drawing error from Kishi. He did this as well with Raikage's arm. 99,9% Tobi is a non-Uchiha if u take in account the info that we have until now. We never saw his eye deactivated and like Kakashi's and Nagato's implanted eyes they can't turn them off. The space-time ninjutsu that he used and its the one that people MISTAKE HIM FOR OBITO seems to be a general ability of people that have the Sharingan but are non-Uchihas.We havent seen any MS abilities from Tobi so we assume he doesnt have the MS and most of all he hasnt progressed his eyes to the Rinnegan state and only transplanted Nagato's, well its best to say now that those were original Madara's, eyes while he already has Senju DNA as he stated. The big number of his Sharingan eyes in the lab, clarify his lust for the Sharingan's power like Danzo had. An Uchiha would never want so many Sharingans and the only time that one would want another's eyes would be the case of the EMS. Izuna would fit perfectly for the role of Tobi (age-wise and power-wise but somewhere i read that Izuna was a calm person) if there werent the above characteristics. As for that Kagami theory doesnt make any sense. He is a guy that we know absolute nothing, yet the age would fit as well, but i think that Kishi draw him there when we saw Tobirama's team in the battlefield without any particular reason. Just to show us that there was an Uchiha among the best there and that all.
Here i found it for u

P.S. sorry for the long post
 
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Re: Naruto Manga 564 Discussion and 565 Predictions

compare the skin around the eyes:




Tobi is some kind of a special zetsu!!
 

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the reason i think tobi is Fugaku Uchiha

the facts: he had 2 sons which are very powerfull sharingan users (itachi ,sasuke) it means that their father was also very strong .

when itachi attacked the village he could easily have itachi under gengutsu and make him believe that he was killed by him (while he was under the mask killing the rest of the uchihas).

when the kyubi attacked 16 years ago , itachi noticed that his parents werent around
 

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I like how people are saying Tobi is non-uchia because we havent seen him deactivate his shringan. We only saw itachi do it once but (and this may sound stupid) but if someone had not seen that happen, then they might have assumed the same for itachi. What i am trying to say is that itachi always kept his sharingan activated just so when we saw those eyes we knew it was him. It was sort of a dramatic effect type of thing. Same could be said for Tobi, maybe the reason he has not deactivated them was for dramatic effect or something.

Also, he was traveling with dedara for a while and you think dedara would have noticed the sharinan activated since he hated itachi so much (partly for the eyes and partly for making fun of his "art" but im not getting into that) and instantly thought of them when he saw sasuke's eyes. He got upset and well you know the rest

I mean Tobi could still be a non-uchia but assuming hes not just because we havent seen his eyes deactivate is a ridiculous assumption.

Also, he could have used izanagi and needed to transplant his old eyes because we know he has a lot of sharingan in stock.
 

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Naruto already has wind chakra but that to me just like urself I don't see it as been enough. NARUTO as not clearly in my opinion defeated any doujutsu carrier, yes he was the hero in the pain saga but can anyone call that a clear victory when 1 he had intel and got nagato at 1/8 of his chakra left, we did see what nagato was capable of at full power both bee and naruto were helpless if not for itachi. This the reason why I think kishi needs to add something into naruto asenal and yes btw bee and naruto the have about 4 nature chakra affinities but they both seem like offensive fighters.
There's only two ways either we see a new sealing jutsu or the combination of sage mode and kyubi chakra together. THESE IS MY CHOICES.
i agree and i think that new uzimaki clan sealing jutsu will come from that tail beast bomb but turn into a space-time sealing jutsu, seem like a good way to end tobi
 

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I am wondering how Naruto & Bee will mange to win against 6 tailed beasts and Tobi....???

Will Naruto be able to come out with some kind of technique which cold overpower such strong ninjas standing up against him...
 

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Who the hell is this guy!? he better not be some clone of madara or ima be really pissed. He better also not be some totally random unheard of character who is going to have some sorta weepy back story history about how much "pain" he has endured. So in short if the identity of "no one" isnt a epic mind blowing revelation then pretty much the whole akatsuki as a group and the 4th ninja war will be reduced from epic levels of awesome to epic levels of shit-storm!
 

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I like how people are saying Tobi is non-uchia because we havent seen him deactivate his shringan. We only saw itachi do it once but (and this may sound stupid) but if someone had not seen that happen, then they might have assumed the same for itachi. What i am trying to say is that itachi always kept his sharingan activated just so when we saw those eyes we knew it was him. It was sort of a dramatic effect type of thing. Same could be said for Tobi, maybe the reason he has not deactivated them was for dramatic effect or something.

Also, he was traveling with dedara for a while and you think dedara would have noticed the sharinan activated since he hated itachi so much (partly for the eyes and partly for making fun of his "art" but im not getting into that) and instantly thought of them when he saw sasuke's eyes. He got upset and well you know the rest

I mean Tobi could still be a non-uchia but assuming hes not just because we havent seen his eyes deactivate is a ridiculous assumption.

Also, he could have used izanagi and needed to transplant his old eyes because we know he has a lot of sharingan in stock.
Well it seems m8 that u keep only the parts that fits ur opinion about ridiculous things. If u were following the posts then u might have seen that this is ONE reason that he might be a non-Uchiha. Feel free to search my posts about Tobi and if u have other info on him post ur opinion in order to discuss it.
 

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now i truly believe that manga is going to be out tomorrow. But if it will come today it is very good for me.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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