[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 564 Discussion and 565 Predictions

[radienx000]

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Tobi is a Space robot from the future, who can use time-space techniques.

 

[lion fang master]

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tobi does favor that right eye sharingan i wonder why.also it does not work against naruto fox mode i know naruto didnt miss that he gonna use that to his advantage somehow in some odd way first they gonna have to get pass those edo jinchurikis, he better unlock his uzumaki sealing ablities."i am no one" yhat sharingan tobi has might be stronger than kakashi's no need 4 ms to perform space/time jutsu.Hey did obito have any siblings?but tobirama was good at teleportating jutst according to minato,what if tobi has tobirama cells to amplify his teleportation jutsu,he may not need ms to use it,thats if tobirama cells can amplify anything i dont even know how he did his teleportation tech if its in his blood then it would work like his brother mokuton jutsu works for madara and danzou but if its a tech like minato with seals then i dont think so.But i still think bee and naruto gonna get their ass handed to them until itachi forces kabuto to undo the jutsu,wait if the jinchuriki have a sharingan does that mean they are no longer under kabuto control and if the edo jutsu is undone will they return to the pure world? will itachi?.........Anyone

1. I don't think there was any mention obito's relative + obito's purpose is just for us to know where kakashi got his sharingan from.
2. Tobi favours the sharingan eye because of it's teleportation power, gives him a chance to escape at best.
3. As for itachi he might be the solution to how the jinchuuriki goes down but that would be another reason for naruto to look like a looser so I doubt kishi would go that route.
4. For the edo jinchuuriki kabuto probably gave them a talisman that allows tobi to control them as nagato controlled his 6 paths and if he were to die the edo zombies wont disappear.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

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Started off great....then the talking began U_U

^^

This.


It was a good chapter for sure but it had less action and was too short.

4/5

 

[Flarian]

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I still think Kishimoto wants to surprise us with the true identity of Tobi. I don't know about you guys but I'd be hella disappointed if it's revealed that Tobi is a mere clone, so I'm guessing Tobi is really far from being a Zetsu clone. Could be either Izuna Uchiha or Shisui Uchiha.

 

[thai sage]

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ok, am i the only one who thinks in the end sasuke will b end up giving naruto his eyes in redemption for what he has done and to save the leaf? Because I think Naruto and madara are gonna be on a whole nother lvl. Not saying sasuke is gonna be weak, he'll also be on his own lvl., but i think he wont be able to keep up with them and therefore end up putting himself in a situation to give naruto his eyes. I mean, that would be an amazing thing that i could see coming true. Naruto will then posses the rinnengan and finish off madara/tobi and therefore bringing peace amongst the villages, and becoming hokage

I can see why that would make a good plot, but for some reason the fact that naruto has always said if he can't save one friend then he wouldn't be fit for hokage, I dont think he could allow sauske to sacrifice himself he'd find a way to do it without sauske having to do that.

I've said this before but I think a collaboration justsu between sauske and naruto will end tobi, maybe like an amaterasu wind rasengan, or something. Naruto is the prophecy child who will bring about the new world or peace, and he has to do it with all his friends intact, something nothing any of his past senseis have been able to do. I don't know thats just my thoughts let me know how I'm wrong haha

 

[Lunir]

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I know sasuke is a big character. But I don't think Kishi is planning on cont. with naruto after this war is resolved. He can end it however he wants. Why not have sasuke die in the name of saving the world? For him to do that would be epic. Plus i never said he wasn't going to fight with naruto against madara, just i think sasuke will reach his limit before naruto and madara do. And with it being later in the fight He'll see all naruto is able to do is from then, due to fatigue and what have you, only being able to dodge attacks and if he had sasuke's eyes he would probably be able to beat madara. he'll make a decision then and Sasuke will then be looked upon as the savior of the world. Which is what itachi wanted and knowing naruto he will be all like "oh i did nothing. if it weren't for sasuke giving me his eyes i wouldn't have won. so no, i'm not the hero this time. sasuke is."

sounds too much like Vegita watching Goku fight kid Buu for my tastes.

 

[Naruto Power]

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what if tobi is not a uchita just got hold of an eye.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

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Man this Tobi saga is really getting interesting. Haven't seen Sasuke in a while. It would be nice to see Sasuke in action.

 

[Shotoetoe]

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Explain how it could be the 10 tailed beast. I dont understand. Because all the tails formed together make up the beast.

Of course there's no proof of any of this, cause the 10-tailed demon was at a whole different level than anything the naruto universe has shown us so far but...

First of all, the 10-tailed was an actual creature/demon. This is proven because unlike the other tailed beasts, this one had a body of flesh and blood. The 9 tailed beasts we know now are manifestations of energy.

Second, the 10-tailed was so powerful, the old sage of six paths had to split it's energy from it's body, casting the latter up to the sky in the form of the moon.

This energy was STILL so powerful, he had to split it into 9 parts before he died to make sure it wouldn't ruin the world.

Now what we've learned from naruto and the kyuubi is that the energy of the tailed beasts still contains 2 components. One is the actual raw energy, the other is the will of the tailed beast.

Considering that none of the tailed beasts remember being part of one whole, it's not absurd to consider that the will of the 10-tailed actually manifested itself in the world. This is where black zetsu, who imho is something like a possesed venus flytrap, comes into play. It's the embodiment of the will of the 10-tailed, trying to restore it's body and energy (eye of the moon plan).
Tobi is half black zetsu, half corpse of Madara imo. But he's still no one cause Madara died, and Zetsu isn't a person.

Mind that Tobi is still pretty weak. You might disagree, but we've not seen Tobi do anything powerful at all. He's good at using his energy to evade and strike (with weapons) at the best possible time. He knows how to use powerful tools (the edo hosts). Be he doesn't have that much power himself if you ask me.

Anyway, short: Will of 10-tails -> Black zetsu -> Tobi
And if the story would have it, the 10-tails will come back to life in a less complete form, which will have to be handled in the way the old sage did.
The only way that's possible is by Naruto and Sasuke working together. Still lots of content to work with there.

The story is far from over.

 

[GeeZy]

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anyone who thinks naruto is going to have sasuke's eyes implanted in him is dumber than dirt.

 

[zapp42823]

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sasuke will probably come out and help naruto on a critical situation... this will happen after itachi and sasuke's talk no jutsu...

 

[cLoneWarriorS]

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I still think Kishimoto wants to surprise us with the true identity of Tobi. I don't know about you guys but I'd be hella disappointed if it's revealed that Tobi is a mere clone, so I'm guessing Tobi is really far from being a Zetsu clone. Could be either Izuna Uchiha or Shisui Uchiha.

It's likely but not.

Tobi is No One (as he said so).

He is a non-Uichiha since there's high probability that his sharingan eye is an implant. Implant eyes (like the sharingan) are seen to be always in activated form. Tobi's sharingan eye is an example.

 

[Trooper]

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Of course there's no proof of any of this, cause the 10-tailed demon was at a whole different level than anything the naruto universe has shown us so far but...

First of all, the 10-tailed was an actual creature/demon. This is proven because unlike the other tailed beasts, this one had a body of flesh and blood. The 9 tailed beasts we know now are manifestations of energy.

Second, the 10-tailed was so powerful, the old sage of six paths had to split it's energy from it's body, casting the latter up to the sky in the form of the moon.

This energy was STILL so powerful, he had to split it into 9 parts before he died to make sure it wouldn't ruin the world.

Now what we've learned from naruto and the kyuubi is that the energy of the tailed beasts still contains 2 components. One is the actual raw energy, the other is the will of the tailed beast.

Considering that none of the tailed beasts remember being part of one whole, it's not absurd to consider that the will of the 10-tailed actually manifested itself in the world. This is where black zetsu, who imho is something like a possesed venus flytrap, comes into play. It's the embodiment of the will of the 10-tailed, trying to restore it's body and energy (eye of the moon plan).
Tobi is half black zetsu, half corpse of Madara imo. But he's still no one cause Madara died, and Zetsu isn't a person.

Mind that Tobi is still pretty weak. You might disagree, but we've not seen Tobi do anything powerful at all. He's good at using his energy to evade and strike (with weapons) at the best possible time. He knows how to use powerful tools (the edo hosts). Be he doesn't have that much power himself if you ask me.

Anyway, short: Will of 10-tails -> Black zetsu -> Tobi
And if the story would have it, the 10-tails will come back to life in a less complete form, which will have to be handled in the way the old sage did.
The only way that's possible is by Naruto and Sasuke working together. Still lots of content to work with there.

The story is far from over.

Wow, that was actually very insightful. Did a little bit of research about Tobi and Zetsu, and i agree with your statement. The reason why Tobi's powers are what they are. For he hasn't really killed anyone as i recall. Of course I have my doubts about this theory as well but im sure they will be cleared up soon enough.

 

[SageHwaorang]

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i know that you guys are really interested in knowing who TOBI is but my question is, will naruto and bee be enough of a challenge against the 6 jinchuuriki. in the last chapter those six were performing not just kenkai genkai but also secret techniques while naruto is on the offensive with a regular rasengan. i find it unfair that naruto does not have any kenkai genkai or another nature chakra. considering that his chakra resembles that of so6p. he should be a mean bad@$$ by now. unless naruto has some sealing techniques up his sleeves or some other jutsu besides the rasengan and its upgrades i believe he is no match against Tobi and his path considering their sharingan and rinnengan which are working on par with one another.

 

[Team 7]

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Possibly Naruto is shown in the 3rd tailed Modus. Not the "glow-mode".

 

[Chief Toad]

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Kishimoto needs to do some catch up work. We haven't seen Itachi in a while and it's been a minute since Sasuke killed that white Zetsu. Where are those guys at? I'm interested to see which avenue he takes next. Naruto and Bee are battling Tobi w/ the 6 jinchuriki all dojutsu'd out, all 5 Kage are battling a weakened half Muu and a beast of an Edo'd Real Madara and who the h*ll knows what the rest of the ninja's are doing. What's your next move Kishi, whats your next move.....? :shrug:

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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Wow, that was actually very insightful. Did a little bit of research about Tobi and Zetsu, and i agree with your statement. The reason why Tobi's powers are what they are. For he hasn't really killed anyone as i recall. Of course I have my doubts about this theory as well but im sure they will be cleared up soon enough.

I posted this same theory/prediction months ago it's logic!!!!

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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Of course there's no proof of any of this, cause the 10-tailed demon was at a whole different level than anything the naruto universe has shown us so far but...

First of all, the 10-tailed was an actual creature/demon. This is proven because unlike the other tailed beasts, this one had a body of flesh and blood. The 9 tailed beasts we know now are manifestations of energy.

Second, the 10-tailed was so powerful, the old sage of six paths had to split it's energy from it's body, casting the latter up to the sky in the form of the moon.

This energy was STILL so powerful, he had to split it into 9 parts before he died to make sure it wouldn't ruin the world.

Now what we've learned from naruto and the kyuubi is that the energy of the tailed beasts still contains 2 components. One is the actual raw energy, the other is the will of the tailed beast.

Considering that none of the tailed beasts remember being part of one whole, it's not absurd to consider that the will of the 10-tailed actually manifested itself in the world. This is where black zetsu, who imho is something like a possesed venus flytrap, comes into play. It's the embodiment of the will of the 10-tailed, trying to restore it's body and energy (eye of the moon plan).
Tobi is half black zetsu, half corpse of Madara imo. But he's still no one cause Madara died, and Zetsu isn't a person.

Mind that Tobi is still pretty weak. You might disagree, but we've not seen Tobi do anything powerful at all. He's good at using his energy to evade and strike (with weapons) at the best possible time. He knows how to use powerful tools (the edo hosts). Be he doesn't have that much power himself if you ask me.

Anyway, short: Will of 10-tails -> Black zetsu -> Tobi
And if the story would have it, the 10-tails will come back to life in a less complete form, which will have to be handled in the way the old sage did.
The only way that's possible is by Naruto and Sasuke working together. Still lots of content to work with there.

The story is far from over.

I posted a very similar prediction/theory as you presented about Black Zestu being Tobi.....I actually feel that the 10th tail of the Juubi was created into a human form called Tobi. I think the actual skeleton that makes up the Juubi was cast away into the moon. If you notice these are the Bijuus names from 1 thru 9. Ichibi,Nibi,Sanbi,Yonbi,Gobi,Rokubi,Shichibi,Hachibi,Kyuubi now add the 10th tail into the names Tobi....logic!!!

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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I posted a very similar prediction/theory as you presented about Black Zestu being Tobi.....I actually feel that the 10th tail of the Juubi was created into a human form called Tobi. I think the actual skeleton that makes up the Juubi was cast away into the moon. If you notice these are the Bijuus names from 1 thru 9. Ichibi,Nibi,Sanbi,Yonbi,Gobi,Rokubi,Shichibi,Hachibi,Kyuubi now add the 10th tail into the names Tobi....logic!!!

Tobi is No One, but he is using meny parts of individuals or things to make him capable of fighting and beating the most elite ninjas. 1/2 White Zestu = Hashirama Senju, Rinnegan = Izuna/Madara/Nagato eyes lol, Sharingan= Dead Uchiha Clan Members Eyes, I'm sure he was and still is using Madara Uchiha original corpse but through battle it's been damaged and parts have been replaced by White Zestu, and He's using 1/2 of his Black self. When Tobi stated that he was Madara. I don't think he was completely lying, he's pretty much using Madara's original corpse but since Edo Madara was revived he realized that his cover was blown..so at the end of the day Tobi = Black Zestu = The human form of the 10th tail Juubi....logic!!!

 

[lswhyte123]

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Alright people. This chapter was pretty epic and baring in mind this is about to be an epic battle, I think we can all appreciate a little feel each-other-out chapter or sesh was necessary. I am amazed at the chakra levels Naruto has shown so far and it's gonna be good to see how much they can stretch em. I don't think Naruto and Sasuke are gonna have their final show down any time soon. But WOW Kishi, you've done amazing with this war. Mon the final battles!!