1) it did happen. OTHERWISE Jiraiya would have noticed and said something during their entire time together. Reread the chapters. I forgot which ones but it does happen.1) Pic or it didnt happen.
2) Where are you trying to get? I told u i know already that if u train enough u can stay at Sharingan state. My point is that between Tobi's permanent Sharingan and the rest of the Uchihas u say is that the first guy (Tobi) have not been seen without sharingan while the others have been seen without Sharingan.
3) Good theory but explain me the 2 above and we are cool
1) I still want picture of Nagato with normal eyes. If u dont have one then dont post anymore. And i am saying i need proof of this cause i have read exactly the chapters and its always with his hair covered. Find me the chapter and the page in which u guys say that he has his normal eyes and i will admit my mistake....1) it did happen. OTHERWISE Jiraiya would have noticed and said something during their entire time together. Reread the chapters. I forgot which ones but it does happen.
2)Kakashi has sharingana ctivated all the time becaus ehe is not an Uchiha and does NOT have the power to deactivate them. Itachi does deactivate them even tho he has MS. Just because it's not shown doesn't mean MS = permanent sharingan view. During their fight, I think Itachi had his eyes go back to normal as he was inching closer to Sasuke and when he died or was dieing his eyes returned to normal, if they were permanent he would have died with his sharingan and not his regular eyes.
3) Done
Don't mean to you but lazy to look for the other post lol
No.... He will not! He decided not to complete transformation.... Otherwise he'll use sage mode. To regenrate his chakara, sage mode is most suitable. For bee, he got samehada from kisame. It will recharge him. No one could help him. Hopefully, shikamaru n kakashi could support them some strategy or 6 tail could control him mind n regonize to naruto againThis getting more and more interesting, i believe that Naruto will win with a complete transfomation into the Kyuubi form, did you see the way the Kyuubi looked surprised when he mentioned that having a tailed beast is not that all bad to Mandara
Nice one and yes nagato is never seen in normal eyes. He always has hairs in front of his eyes and madara himself said that he gave rinnegan to nagato which means implanted rinnegan in nagato. So rinnegan doesnot deactivates in nagato's eyes.1) I still want picture of Nagato with normal eyes. If u dont have one then dont post anymore. And i am saying i need proof of this cause i have read exactly the chapters and its always with his hair covered. Find me the chapter and the page in which u guys say that he has his normal eyes and i will admit my mistake....Originally Posted by kisamexRocks
1) it did happen. OTHERWISE Jiraiya would have noticed and said something during their entire time together. Reread the chapters. I forgot which ones but it does happen.
2)Kakashi has sharingana ctivated all the time becaus ehe is not an Uchiha and does NOT have the power to deactivate them. Itachi does deactivate them even tho he has MS. Just because it's not shown doesn't mean MS = permanent sharingan view. During their fight, I think Itachi had his eyes go back to normal as he was inching closer to Sasuke and when he died or was dieing his eyes returned to normal, if they were permanent he would have died with his sharingan and not his regular eyes.
3) Done
Don't mean to you but lazy to look for the other post lol
2) Here u prove to me that u clearly misunderstood the reason of this "debate". I say that the "A" ppl have them activated/deactivated at will while "B" ppl cant switch them back and forth and this is based to what Kishi drew not based to what i say. Again if i am wrong feel free to prove it with chapter/page in which Tobi has normal eyes. If u do find one then i ll quit saying that his eyes are implanted.
3) Nothing to add here
Last but not least. I am not trying to be an a@#% i just use whatever we see in the manga and try to complete the puzzle. In the end we might all be wrong and Kishi reveal whatever he wishes. But there are some parts where u cant ignore the information that he gives us. Anyway i wont go that road down again.
i agree with youi think tobi is madara's brother and that's why kisame mistook him for madara
Yes it is proven that you can turn off sharingan even when you possess MS, proof: watch naruto episode 85 after he used ameterasu to burn the frog's intestine he turned of his sharingan =)1) it did happen. OTHERWISE Jiraiya would have noticed and said something during their entire time together. Reread the chapters. I forgot which ones but it does happen.
2)Kakashi has sharingana ctivated all the time becaus ehe is not an Uchiha and does NOT have the power to deactivate them. Itachi does deactivate them even tho he has MS. Just because it's not shown doesn't mean MS = permanent sharingan view. During their fight, I think Itachi had his eyes go back to normal as he was inching closer to Sasuke and when he died or was dieing his eyes returned to normal, if they were permanent he would have died with his sharingan and not his regular eyes.
3) Done
Don't mean to you but lazy to look for the other post lol
Nice. I like it when people get carried away with stories.NARUTO MANGA 565 PREDICTION
*opening with naruto staring in the direction of tobi in determination to win, bee doing the same*
naruto: bee, this is gonna be hard but...
bee: ...failures not an option when we are what decides the fate of the world.
*naruto looks at bee in surprise*
naruto in thought: damn, even his lame raping has stopped, shows how serious HE is
-wide shot of all six jinchuriki and tobi, then close up on tobi-
tobi: time to turn this in to a legit jinchuriki battle. haha...GO!
*bee surrounding himself in V1 hachibi mode with shroud, and preparing samehade*
*as the jinchuriki charge for naruto and bee at, seen switches over to kakashi and naruto clone*
kakashi: looks like we are nearly done here naruto, if i was you i would dispel the clone jutsu now because your only gonna stress out the original, the more strain is put on a clone, and its apparent you have over a dozen of them all over right.
naruto: you absolutely sure?
kakashi: come on naruto, its me your talking about, i can... i mean WE can handle it .
*panel showing gai and lee thumbs up*
kakashi: i know your going to fight madara or sasuke and you are gonna be needed at top health, so dont be a typical knuckle head and ignore consequences.
naruto: hmmf, yeah it looks like you can handle it now *puff*
*back to real naruto and bee*
*while naruto is trying to hold off an attack from the 3-tails he feels exhaustion and nearly stumbles*
bee: hey naruto, you need to keep watch out on your chakra levels, if your running low on chakra it will be our only choice to retreat ok mufuka.
naruto: NO we gotta handle everything now ...*remembers what itachi said about trying to do everything*... i mean...yeah i understand.
*naruto kicks yagura away*
naruto: hey bee, il be back in an instant
*naruto disapears from the scene in a flash*
*killer bee is shown swinging samehada at Roshi but he dodges it, samehada then starts to tremble of excitement of the chakra*
*utakata then makes a massive bubble that fires at bee*
bee:hey naruto where are you
tobi:hmmf, naruto playing hide and seek wont work against these elite ninja
*bee throws a bunch of shuriken at the bubble but the shuriken fase through and burn away*
*bee goes in V2 hachibi mode and runs about 50 metres away from the blast*
tobi:my cowerdly, yet efficient plan is to tire them out using the jinchuriki and then take em by using my space/time tech
naruto: sorry about disappearing
*naruto is in kyuubi mode but has sage eyes as well with the markings around the eyes that are dark*
naruto:i need you to use the tentacles to divert all the jinchuriki up in to the air
bee: aahh so they cant get away from the long range attacks, but that one with the wings will be trouble
*bee uses his tentacles to dig under the ground and launch the jinchuriki up*
*naruto is then shown with multiple chakra hands , with a rasenshuriken in each of them(6 to be exact)*
naruto: *as he throws them all* im gonna shoot as many of them down at once, and then figure out what to do about tobi while they try and regenerate.
bee: wow, thats some chakra control you have there naruto
hachibi: yeah i think narutos seal changed, it ultimately gives naruto his chakra control he has been deprived since he was made a jinchuriki.
*a close up on the rasenshuriken nearly hitting the jinchuriki*
*the 7 tails dodges*
*next panel shows rest of jinchuriki being inches from being hit*
*show of the massive explosions in the air*
*as the smoke clears, fully transformed jinchuriki/bijuu are shown landing under the smoke*
tobi: not too fast naruto...
END
yeah i know its too long but i got real carried away. constructive feedback will be appreciated
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About Tobi and the Senju DNA. Take f.e. Tobirama, Hashirama's brother, he was a Senju he had Senju DNA but he doesnt have the Mokuton No Jutsu. Senju DNA doesnt mean u must have the Mokuton as well. Hashirama's specific cells gives u the Mokuton abilities. The part where Tobi says that he has Senju DNA is during his fight with Konan where he uses Izanagi to escape death sacrificing his left eye. The rest i agree with you.Nice one and yes nagato is never seen in normal eyes. He always has hairs in front of his eyes and madara himself said that he gave rinnegan to nagato which means implanted rinnegan in nagato. So rinnegan doesnot deactivates in nagato's eyes.
Tobi is never seen neither in normal eyes nor in mangekyo sharingan till now. Nor is he seen using mokuton so i doubt if he has senju cells as well in him. I mean its never shown him to use wood style. So he is just a pawn of real madara, just like kabuto said that tobi was working under the instructions of madara and may have now gained new objective then to follow madara.
Both links u posted here are supporting ur opinion. But here is the tricky part. The first guy, the one that Kisame is talking in the past, is the real Uchiha Madara. Why is that? He controls someone with a tailed beast inside him;Yagura. Only he could control a tailed beast with his Sharingan like he did with the Kyuubi against Hashirama. He has the same hair as Uchiha Madara as well. And ofc Kisame recognised the legendary Madara in an instant. The second link though is showing us Kisame and the masked man. That guy is Tobi/ Mr No one. None knew that Uchiha Madara died at some point and that this guy, Tobi, is using his name and continues the "plan". None except Zetsu and Kabuto/Orochimaru.also it has to hold trur that tobi is some uchiha. when talking with the mizukage, it was revealed he was being controlled by a sharigan user didnt say who he was but the person claimed to be madara but izuna looks and is pretty much identical to madara in power in strength here is the link to thatYou must be registered for see linkshow else would tobi know all about madara has to be someone close to him, who else then his brother. who else would need a room full of sharigan? izuna, who needed constant eye transplants because he gave his eyes to madara. a person who never got any glory and always lived in his brothers shadow. someone who wouldnt care about being anyone as stated in this chp...izuna uchiha
here is more proof that tobi is indeed some uchiha whether he is madara or izuna etcYou must be registered for see links
AHA thanks manNice. I like it when people get carried away with stories.