[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 562 Discussion and 563 Predictions

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Re: Naruto Manga 562 Discussion and 563 Predictions

its funny how people have already decided on the fights... ok if we say Itachi will fight Kabuto, Naruto will fight Tobi and the 6 Jinchuurikis, The Kages against Madara and Mu, then where does Sasuke fit into all this? where does it leave the rest such as Kakashi? as usual Kishi has some twist up his sleeve...

and why do most people propose who is going die in the Kages-Madara fight? I believe a Kage must be one of the strongest if not the strongest ninja in a hidden village... now these people are super strong, so stop underrating the Mizukage and The Fifth Hokage just because you havent seen then in a full fight. It will be nice to see if Tsunade has gotten over her phobia for blood though
 

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great chapter, it´s great to see that the Five Kages have put their differences aside for once and are working together.

I don't think that the tsuchikage will die , at least not in 563.As for Tobi, i am really wondering who he might be, this is just speculation but, couldn´t he be Obito ? maybe he didn't die back then.

( why did i think of obito? well... Obito gave his Left eye to kakashi, if you remember correctly. Tobi has the sharingan on his right and Rinnengan on His left,and, tobi's sharingan is alot like kakashi´s .
also.. Obito and Tobi´s hair are identical, plus thir names kind of sound alike
but then again, this is just speculation.)

anyway can anyone give me their opinion about this?




By the way, shouldn't chapter 563 be out already?
 
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Tobi can be Madara's son, there are lots of unlinked info about it.
My thoughts to it is that Tobi is kakashi's old team member. Before we thought that (obito - notice how similar their names are)"Tobi" died he gave kakashi his eye. That's why his mask had one eye hole at first. & I'm not sure but maybe Madara found Tobi before he died and took him under his wing cause he did say this chapter or the one before that he clearly didnt die at the Final Valley or w/e its called. Madara taught him a bunch of jutsu and hence why hes so strong now. Madara died & Tobi liked Marada's ideals so they conjured up a plan that could make the world they both want. But then again someone please speak if they disagree cause i just started reading this against since like april lol
 
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Re: Naruto Manga 562 Discussion and 563 Predictions

great chapter, it´s great to see that the Five Kages have put their differences aside for once and are working together.

I don't think that the tsuchikage will die , at least not in 563.As for Tobi, i am really wondering who he might be, this is just speculation but, couldn´t he be Obito ? maybe he didn't die back then.

( why did i think of obito? well... Obito gave his Left eye to kakashi, if you remember correctly. Tobi has the sharingan on his right and Rinnengan on His left,and, tobi's sharingan is alot like kakashi´s .
also.. Obito and Tobi´s hair are identical, plus thir names kind of sound alike
but then again, this is just speculation.)

anyway can anyone give me their opinion about this?



By the way, shouldn't chapter 563 be out already?

Hi, and welcome to NB

The Obito theory is one of the most discussed theories out there on this forum, there are a lot of people that will start bombarding you with hate even if you mention it though. So ignore them and stick to your guns.

However, I'm one of those that does not believe Tobi = Obito, why? Because I simply believe that a twist like that would seem too spontaneous and random. There would be no reason for Obito to be Tobi.
We also know that at the time of the 4th Hokage, Tobi was an adult. At this time Obito would still have been quite young (and dead)

You mentioned the Sharingan link. The problem with this evidence is that Tobi had two sharingan. The other he lost during the fight with Konan, therefore that link should be void. Although Tobi could easily have acquired another from the Uchiha massacre.

We cannot say that Kakashi's and Tobi's sharingan look the same since all sharingan are identical until MS, and since we are yet to see Tobi's MS we cannot make a connection here.

Anyway, have fun in NB :D
 

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Hi, and welcome to NB

The Obito theory is one of the most discussed theories out there on this forum, there are a lot of people that will start bombarding you with hate even if you mention it though. So ignore them and stick to your guns.

However, I'm one of those that does not believe Tobi = Obito, why? Because I simply believe that a twist like that would seem too spontaneous and random. There would be no reason for Obito to be Tobi.
We also know that at the time of the 4th Hokage, Tobi was an adult. At this time Obito would still have been quite young (and dead)

You mentioned the Sharingan link. The problem with this evidence is that Tobi had two sharingan. The other he lost during the fight with Konan, therefore that link should be void. Although Tobi could easily have acquired another from the Uchiha massacre.

We cannot say that Kakashi's and Tobi's sharingan look the same since all sharingan are identical until MS, and since we are yet to see Tobi's MS we cannot make a connection here.

Anyway, have fun in NB :D
Thanks :)

belive it or not, i had written my post before knowing that it had already been mentioned, but soon after i posted i went to check some info about it and i found that tobi was an adult at the time of the kyubi invasion, as you said.

but what's your opinion on the matter?
Who could Tobi be?
 

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Thanks :)

belive it or not, i had written my post before knowing that it had already been mentioned, but soon after i posted i went to check some info about it and i found that tobi was an adult at the time of the kyubi invasion, as you said.

but what's your opinion on the matter?
Who could Tobi be?
I do that a lot on here actually, the best way to find out if someone has mentioned something before is just to go out and say it haha.

In all honesty I really am unsure on who Tobi can be, I can't wait until Kishi finally unveils the secret to us.
At the moment I can only speculate, but if I had to choose a side to be on I would say that my money is on Izuna Uchiha being Tobi. The reason being that to me its too late in the Manga for a new character to be revealed (Unless we have a whole new arc after this.) So Tobi must be someone who has already been established to us.

With this in mind, Izuna appears to be a good candidate. As a fellow Uchiha, and the brother of Madara, naturally he would know a lot about Madara's life, enough to be the perfect duplicate of him.
Some people will state the fact that Izuna died on the battlefield, and although this is true, the whole idea of "dying on the battlefield" is rather vague, there are a hundred ways in which he could have faked his death. His death may have been required in order for a plot that Madara had come up with to succeed.

However, If Kishi does decide to introduce a new character, I would say that Tobi could be someone that does not belong to the Uchiha clan at all.

Reasons why? We are yet to see Tobi utilise the characteristic abilities of the Uchiha clan, such as fire techniques, and he seems to have an unhealthy obsession with the ocular abilities of the sharingan and the rinnegan. It wouldn't make sense for someone that already has the sharingan to be that obsessed with eyes.

These are some of my views, feel free to discuss anything :).. I won't bite (unless bitten haha) :D
 

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I do that a lot on here actually, the best way to find out if someone has mentioned something before is just to go out and say it haha.

In all honesty I really am unsure on who Tobi can be, I can't wait until Kishi finally unveils the secret to us.
At the moment I can only speculate, but if I had to choose a side to be on I would say that my money is on Izuna Uchiha being Tobi. The reason being that to me its too late in the Manga for a new character to be revealed (Unless we have a whole new arc after this.) So Tobi must be someone who has already been established to us.

With this in mind, Izuna appears to be a good candidate. As a fellow Uchiha, and the brother of Madara, naturally he would know a lot about Madara's life, enough to be the perfect duplicate of him.
Some people will state the fact that Izuna died on the battlefield, and although this is true, the whole idea of "dying on the battlefield" is rather vague, there are a hundred ways in which he could have faked his death. His death may have been required in order for a plot that Madara had come up with to succeed.

However, If Kishi does decide to introduce a new character, I would say that Tobi could be someone that does not belong to the Uchiha clan at all.

Reasons why? We are yet to see Tobi utilise the characteristic abilities of the Uchiha clan, such as fire techniques, and he seems to have an unhealthy obsession with the ocular abilities of the sharingan and the rinnegan. It wouldn't make sense for someone that already has the sharingan to be that obsessed with eyes.

These are some of my views, feel free to discuss anything :).. I won't bite (unless bitten haha) :D
I agree with you about the possibility of Izuna, especially with his obsession with having a good pair of eyes on stand by who else but someone who was blind and without ocular abilities after being so accustomed to being one of the most skilled doujutsu users.

But if it isn't Izuna it in my mind is some sort of incarnation of Madara, like how on Inuyasha Naraku makes countless of incarnations. So not truly Madara or a clone but some part of his essence taking human embodiment, most likely through the use of izanagi. i agree its pretty late in the story to introduce an unknown.
 

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Hi there..
You know I thought a lot about who Tobi is.. and for some time I thought he could be Madara's brother, but now I think not..
I don't think he is: Izuna. Obito, Shisui, Sasuke and Itachi father, .......

I'm beginning to stick to the theory that he actually is some kind of Madara's clone or something... just like so many people said.. but I still don't really know about the details (or have a well build-up theory...)
I like the incarnation idea.. but I don't see how could the details be...

and I don't think any of the "Zetsu tenth tail" theory or such a thing makes any sense..
 
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One of the five kages will die my guess is oonoki because naruto is all about the younger generation and the old has to get out of the picture
 
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I BELIEVE KISHI WOULD NOT BE DUMB ENOUGH TO INTRODUCE A NEW CHARACTER AT THIS STAGE.when we all are deducing possible theories he cannot just jump up and say"HA ,YOU FOOLS,HE WAS THE Nth Son Of HIS Nth BROTHER".
The others are a possibility,but the uzumaki clan was viped out due to other villages' fear of their powerful fuinjutsus in the world war(s).tobirama was most probably an infant or not even born when madara and hashirama fought.(though i believe madara lost deliberately to hashirama).plus i don't remember madara saying anything about edo tensei.he said he thought he was revived using samsara technique.(if he did,please tell me the page).
:D Lolz :D Good 1 tachi... specially "HA ,YOU FOOLS,HE WAS THE Nth Son Of HIS Nth BROTHER"... lol
 

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Madara's def but the fights been pretty lame so far. Seems like kishis setting him up for the fall. Wonder why no one gets how convenient it is that madara hasn't used amaterasu yet. Probably because oonoki, gaara and naruto clone (without kyuubi cloak) would probably die.

This reminds me of the original pein naruto fight when deva path was put out of
commission for the first half of the fight just so Naruto could win.
 

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I do that a lot on here actually, the best way to find out if someone has mentioned something before is just to go out and say it haha.

In all honesty I really am unsure on who Tobi can be, I can't wait until Kishi finally unveils the secret to us.
At the moment I can only speculate, but if I had to choose a side to be on I would say that my money is on Izuna Uchiha being Tobi. The reason being that to me its too late in the Manga for a new character to be revealed (Unless we have a whole new arc after this.) So Tobi must be someone who has already been established to us.

With this in mind, Izuna appears to be a good candidate. As a fellow Uchiha, and the brother of Madara, naturally he would know a lot about Madara's life, enough to be the perfect duplicate of him.
Some people will state the fact that Izuna died on the battlefield, and although this is true, the whole idea of "dying on the battlefield" is rather vague, there are a hundred ways in which he could have faked his death. His death may have been required in order for a plot that Madara had come up with to succeed.

However, If Kishi does decide to introduce a new character, I would say that Tobi could be someone that does not belong to the Uchiha clan at all.

Reasons why? We are yet to see Tobi utilise the characteristic abilities of the Uchiha clan, such as fire techniques, and he seems to have an unhealthy obsession with the ocular abilities of the sharingan and the rinnegan. It wouldn't make sense for someone that already has the sharingan to be that obsessed with eyes.

These are some of my views, feel free to discuss anything :).. I won't bite (unless bitten haha) :D
The Sharingan is extreemely powerful, and infinately more dangerous in the wrong hands (as we had seen with Danzo). After the Uchiha massacre, there were dozens of Sharingan avalable, and they had to be gathered. I personally think that Tobi was a Zetzu cloan made by Madra shortly before his death to pull the strings in the shadows untill he could be resurrected. *notice that he mentioned Nagato and his Rinnegan after being resurrected via Edo Tensei.* But then he hit a snag when Nagto killed himself in order to bring back the fallen citicens of Konoha. The oregional plan was no longer possible (as stated by Tobi), so Tobi decided to take things into his own hands. He brinwashed Sasuke and fueled his anger to replace Nagato as his trump card, grew 100,000 White Zetsus, and declared the Third Shinobi World War. He reclaimed the Rinnegan and created the new Six Paths of Pain in order to rise his fighting prowess (since he is a white Zetsu cloan and a "shell" of the real Madara).

If your thinking "WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH DO YOU THINK IT'S A ZETSU CLOAN!?!?!? THAT THEORY IS COMPLETE ND TOTAL CRAP!!!," well don't worry, I have my resons. When Tobi lost his arm, you could see that the inside of his body looked like Zetsu goo. When a Zetsu creates a cloan, it's a perfect replica all the way down to the chakra, but if you kill it it returns to a white Zetsu--and if you cut off an arm/leg/head, then you see the interior as Zetsu goo (just like Tobi). When I first heard the idea that Tobi's a Zetsu cloan (the thought, not the descriptive theory I created), I thought it was complete and total crap. But I put some thought into it nd it can make sense.

But no, TOBI IS NOT OBITO
 
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People have stated thet "that jutsu" was Tsunade's hint before they joined the battle. The only answer there is what tht jutsu is.

I really do think that Naruto would be fit to use his father's technique (Flying Thunder God Technique). Naruto's extreeme speed is useful; good at dodgeing attacks and moving in fast to counter/attack. The Flying Thunder God Technique is good for more than that. It's good for speed, evasion, agility, countering, strategics, instantanious travel, taijutsu, and one thing that would be EXTREEMELY useful to Naruto:

Rasengan. The Rasengan is a jabing technique untill he perfected it and learned Sage mode to throw it, expand it, and shred enemies to peices (not just hiting the chakra network). That's why Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique and the Rasengan went hand in hand so well together--they solved the other techniques holes (wait three sentances for the explenation). Kakashi and Sasuke's Chidori go so well because their Sharingan allows them to follow/track/avoid enemy movements to come in close. Naruto's speed makes him incredably fast, but he still has to run in close--meaning Sasuke can still track his movements (speed doesn 't mean diddely squat against the Sharingan). The Flying Thunder God Technique is instantanious, meaning Sasuke's Sharingan can't follow him untill he's already behind him--but it would be too late.

The Flying Thunder God Technique solves the Rasengan's problem of having to run streight twoards the opponent. The Rasengan gives the Flying Thunder God Technique a powerful move to use once your there. This is why Minato could hit Tobi: he had a hard time to follow Minato's movements and become intangible in time (same thing when the Sasuke/Naruto fight comes around.

It might not be the uber-strong kind of powerful upgrade that many people are waiting for--but it's still quite powerful. It's simple, and not one of those one-hit-kill techniques, but it is BY NO MEANS WEAK.
 

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The kage of the mist can melt madara's susanno like it did to sasuke's!!!!! Her kei kei gen kai can make acid mist mauahhaha
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