lol i understand but dont jinx it for your self, abit too soon to say, yeah madara is the edo but theirs theories that can still justify that the guy behind the mask also madara and they are almost certain concidering its kishis style. look what he did with the naruto that was fighting raikage , he made us think it was a clone and then made us feel that it was the real naruto , and then confirmed it was a clone. i say wait till next week to absolute 100% sure that tobi=madara is NOT true. just friendly advice buddy.
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions
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Just a thought to anybody that say that Tobi is still Madara.. What if Madara could split himself like Muu could.. And that the one part of him died and that the other one survived as Tobi....
Kind of a stupid theory but there have been worse.. I also think that Tobi is Izuna..
Kind of a stupid theory but there have been worse.. I also think that Tobi is Izuna..
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I don't believe that tobi is madara anymore, not after this chapter.
My hypothesis is this:
Itachi was right, madara help him kill is clan
Nagato was one boy who receive his eyes from madara, and was controlled by madara. Madara wants peace.
Tobi controlled one Kage to be able to obtain Kisame, and makes kisame enter into akatsuki, maybe like a spy for him.
tobi wants to bring someone of the death, with Nagato's Rinne Tensei.
With this i come to conclusion, this:
Tobi controleed kyuubi to attack konoaha, to let the uchiha control konoha. Madara finds out and help itachi.
Tobi controlled nagato and kill madara.
Tobi after kill madara and gets a stock of uchiha eyes and a the 1º hokage cells
Tobi become Madara to the world, controlling nagato and akatsuki, and when akatsuki was weak he himself enter as a member.
Tobi uses Izanagi and one unique tecnique of teleportation, with it he survive to Amaterasu
flames.
What is left to answer is who Tobi wants to bring from the death.
We know that tobi is 100% new character, so I think is he is one of uchiha clan. The first one to uses Izanagi in the clan. This history line fits too in the theory of tobi is one of the elders of kanoha like danzo. (Sorry for the bad English)
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I don't believe that tobi is madara anymore, not after this chapter.
My hypothesis is this:
Itachi was right, madara help him kill is clan
Nagato was one boy who receive his eyes from madara, and was controlled by madara. Madara wants peace.
Tobi controlled one Kage to be able to obtain Kisame, and makes kisame enter into akatsuki, maybe like a spy for him.
tobi wants to bring someone of the death, with Nagato's Rinne Tensei.
With this i come to conclusion, this:
Tobi controleed kyuubi to attack konoaha, to let the uchiha control konoha. Madara finds out and help itachi.
Tobi controlled nagato and kill madara.
Tobi after kill madara and gets a stock of uchiha eyes and a the 1º hokage cells
Tobi become Madara to the world, controlling nagato and akatsuki, and when akatsuki was weak he himself enter as a member.
Tobi uses Izanagi and one unique tecnique of teleportation, with it he survive to Amaterasu
flames.
What is left to answer is who Tobi wants to bring from the death.
We know that tobi is 100% new character, so I think is he is one of uchiha clan. The first one to uses Izanagi in the clan. This history line fits too in the theory of tobi is one of the elders of kanoha like danzo. (Sorry for the bad English)
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Totally awesome chapter.
Now as to how madara knows Nagato here is a theory (it's been on my mind for some time now)
See the long hair madara has? When tobi fought Minato he had the same hair-clotches-mask he has now. Now this happened inbetween those two events. So, this person here could be the real Madara who died somwhere after helping Itachi.
Doesn't seem so obvious but we cant ignore little details right.
And yeah : Why would Madara wear a mask? IDK!
But maybe it was tobi who copied the mask from madara to trick ppl like Itachi who saw madara wearing a mask with one opening on the right eye. He had both eyes as we know.
What do you think?
Now as to how madara knows Nagato here is a theory (it's been on my mind for some time now)
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See the long hair madara has? When tobi fought Minato he had the same hair-clotches-mask he has now. Now this happened inbetween those two events. So, this person here could be the real Madara who died somwhere after helping Itachi.
Doesn't seem so obvious but we cant ignore little details right.
And yeah : Why would Madara wear a mask? IDK!
But maybe it was tobi who copied the mask from madara to trick ppl like Itachi who saw madara wearing a mask with one opening on the right eye. He had both eyes as we know.
What do you think?
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Madara not being tobi changes everything.... it means Minato didn't fight Madara... he fought ???
Well it seems in the end we just may not know jack shit about anything of Madara's powers.....and that group facing him and Muu together are now.....screwed seeing as most of them used has much power as they could just to handle the three kages......to find out one survived and an Uchiha legend has been summoned
Gaara.....Oonoki.....Naruto Clone put your head between yourknees and kiss your asses goodbye xd
Gaara.....Oonoki.....Naruto Clone put your head between yourknees and kiss your asses goodbye xd
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how about this madara(resurrected) was always a good guy and the fight between him and hashirama was by tobi who is a special clone of madara who died before that and all his chakra went to the clone
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come to think of it... does itachi really know that tobi wasn't madara... remember when sasuke looked into tobi's eyes after sasuke defeated itachi his amaterasu activated... what does that mean?
first, i thought of that theory the second i saw madara's face, but then again, for ET to work, i think the person actually has to die...so dont think madara split himself for years and didnt do anything. but then again, that would explain why tobi couldnt do a lot of eye techniques.
second, i used to think if tobi was really madara, then the coffin would contain the izuna (madara's brother). but now i do not think that is the case. the person behind the mask has to be someone who is older and knew about the rinnegan...because tobi "gave natato his rinnegan".
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What if the numerous battles real Madara (Uchiha) and Hashirama (Senju) had gone through created both Tobi and Zetsu. The negatives of the true shinobi.
Tobi = -
Madara = +
Zetsu = -
Hashirama = +
And so the negative halves wanted to seek power and take over the world!? Lol
Or....
What if Madara created Tobi using part of his soul and gave him the task of manipulating Nagato into using Rinne Tensei on Madara to ressurect him?
Tobi = -
Madara = +
Zetsu = -
Hashirama = +
And so the negative halves wanted to seek power and take over the world!? Lol
Or....
What if Madara created Tobi using part of his soul and gave him the task of manipulating Nagato into using Rinne Tensei on Madara to ressurect him?
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion/ 560 Predictions
He has to be otobi who somehow got a hold of a new sharingan, it has to be!
Finally, a chapter I can give a 5/5. Why? Because now we won't have anymore 6th coffin threads(but now there will be the "whose behind the mask" threads)
I was also really happy to see the other characters like Kakashi, Lee, and Sai of whom we hadn't seen in forever, even if it was just for a moment, they showed good teamwork.
I was also really happy to see the other characters like Kakashi, Lee, and Sai of whom we hadn't seen in forever, even if it was just for a moment, they showed good teamwork.
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One freakin' awesome chapter.
On 6th Coffin: Well, for me, it was always between Madara, Izuna or a new badass character. The fact that it is Madara, though many of us sensed it, is amongst the best thing that could have been though. Now both Kabuto gets big credit and Tobi's identity took a more dense turn which story-wise is perfect.
That doesn't help Sasuke's case. Apart from being obsessed to revenge his brother's killer (whom he himself killed) and being manipulated by supposedly 'Madara', now he seems like a bigger @sshole for believing in someone who's not even Madara.
As I said in last week's thread, they'll show 6th Coffin coming up but surely will show it at the end and man, he couldn't have done it better. Every single Naruto fans nerdgasmed for sure.
Apart from highlight being Madara, I'll come to a part which I freakin' loved. The Naruto-Hinata track was damn cute. Though, I was expecting this since last week's and something more directly romantic, this was a damn touching and cute sequence. "It's all in eyes..." Brilliant.
He concocted one of the best thrilling moments and romantic sequence in 1 chapter. Respect for Kishi.
Otherwise, nice to see Kakashi. Though, I wish to see more of him, atleast showing his battle progress was good. Seeing Sai, Kimimaro, Chiyo ect... were all great touches.
Now side notes:
- How the hell did Madara knew Nagato?
- I hope Gaara don't die. They are almost in dead situation against Madara. Hope someone like Onoki's sacrifice himself to let the others flee temporarily.
- Hope to see something as awesome in next week's chapter and please, Kishi, don't say Tobi is Obito cause you'll ruin everything you created of this fantastic craft - Naruto.
- Raikage & Co. couldn't have been as wrong ever when they said they are having the upper hand...The situation has never been as precarious for the Shinobi army ever.
Rating, isn't it obvious?...
On 6th Coffin: Well, for me, it was always between Madara, Izuna or a new badass character. The fact that it is Madara, though many of us sensed it, is amongst the best thing that could have been though. Now both Kabuto gets big credit and Tobi's identity took a more dense turn which story-wise is perfect.
That doesn't help Sasuke's case. Apart from being obsessed to revenge his brother's killer (whom he himself killed) and being manipulated by supposedly 'Madara', now he seems like a bigger @sshole for believing in someone who's not even Madara.
As I said in last week's thread, they'll show 6th Coffin coming up but surely will show it at the end and man, he couldn't have done it better. Every single Naruto fans nerdgasmed for sure.
Apart from highlight being Madara, I'll come to a part which I freakin' loved. The Naruto-Hinata track was damn cute. Though, I was expecting this since last week's and something more directly romantic, this was a damn touching and cute sequence. "It's all in eyes..." Brilliant.
He concocted one of the best thrilling moments and romantic sequence in 1 chapter. Respect for Kishi.
Otherwise, nice to see Kakashi. Though, I wish to see more of him, atleast showing his battle progress was good. Seeing Sai, Kimimaro, Chiyo ect... were all great touches.
Now side notes:
- How the hell did Madara knew Nagato?
- I hope Gaara don't die. They are almost in dead situation against Madara. Hope someone like Onoki's sacrifice himself to let the others flee temporarily.
- Hope to see something as awesome in next week's chapter and please, Kishi, don't say Tobi is Obito cause you'll ruin everything you created of this fantastic craft - Naruto.
- Raikage & Co. couldn't have been as wrong ever when they said they are having the upper hand...The situation has never been as precarious for the Shinobi army ever.
Rating, isn't it obvious?...
Naru sennin
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we need a madara chronicles up in this manga, i wouldnt care if its 20 chapters long, i just know it will be kick-ass. and for next week i hope they start(flashbacks) but if not i just know that madara will have the same effect to the manga sasuke has , fast paste action.
edit- if we get madara action we will also get to find out how strong he truly was and his ms powers. so far he blew off the door of the coffin , not even nagato did that so my assumption is that he is ...god like strong(yes stronger than minato and the 1st)
edit- if we get madara action we will also get to find out how strong he truly was and his ms powers. so far he blew off the door of the coffin , not even nagato did that so my assumption is that he is ...god like strong(yes stronger than minato and the 1st)
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I'm finished...what a chapter. 6/5 if I could.
This chapter didn't reveal anything in relation to that we now don't know who really is behind the mask...at least that person knows alot about Madara and must have been living during the era of Madara, those things he/she/it knows about Madara aren't written in any history books.
This chapter didn't reveal anything in relation to that we now don't know who really is behind the mask...at least that person knows alot about Madara and must have been living during the era of Madara, those things he/she/it knows about Madara aren't written in any history books.
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