[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 523 Discussion and 524 Predictions

[mark543]

if sasuke fought any of them with his sword vs theirs i think he would win because that sword of his is said to be unbreakable, plus he streams his chidori making it pierce anything but another chakra streamer's sword plus he has gotten so good with his sharingan its making him to strong now for alot of people. ,

I really think that sauske would get spanked in a sword battle with these guys just like Bee took it to him, dont get me wrong sauske is good with a sword, but these guys are professionals!

 

[Akatsuki leader]

if someone watched the naruto shippuuden special ova 2011 that fight betwen sasuke and sage naruto... i think that fight after the WAR..... bcz madara have new cloth and mask and rinengan and kabuto with madara...

and if you looked sasuke more stronger just like last time...
sasuke didnt kill naruto... just like last time...

 

[mark543]

there's a thing i want to ask you all...mangetsu used the scroll to summon the swords but he didn't managed to summon samehada and hiramekarei...why? even zabuza got his sword back....

I think he just summoned the swords he had collected in his life, as samehada and hiramekarei are with different owners now....

 

[erosenninthethird]

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I don't think he can do dat sas can but I never seen kakashi do it...but all in all it was a good ch answered ?'s about da 7sm and day swords got to see dem fight with dem got to see a nice plain to try and stop dem...can kabuto see da battle thru da eyes of his puppets?

correct me if i'm wrong, but i think kakashi copied his lightning attack which makes him unable to manipulate the technique. Sasuke was taught the technique that is why he is able to legthen it.

 

[Conker290]

this was a pretty good chapter, i like the information they gave us about each sword.

 

[Reycom394]

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correct me if i'm wrong, but i think kakashi copied his lightning attack which makes him unable to manipulate the technique. Sasuke was taught the technique that is why he is able to legthen it.

He specifically said that Raikiri was his only original justu. Saskue is just a spoiled brat that got every little power he asked for and was most likely taught how to manipulate it.

 

[erosenninthethird]

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There is a good point to be made that I just noticed from this chapter. Suigetsu said it himself, "formally, the organization of the 7 Swordsman of the Mist barely exists today." That is amplified by the fact that we saw so few members over so long. Since Suigetsu mentioned Zabuza, Kisame and Choujirou, that means they were the last 3 official members to be alive (yes, Raiga is not included here in the manga but I'm sure in the Anime they will throw him in there). We know for a fact that Zabuza was part of the previous generation of the 7SM which means that only Kisame and Choujirou were part of the current generation.

Here is the point I'm driving at:

Given that information, why are there not more members of the current generation of 7SM?? This question was plaguing me for quite a while, but now it seems the answer has arrived; it was all thanks to Mangetsu. Like Suigetsu said, his brother mastered all 7 blades. That means he had significant time with each of them. That could also mean that he killed the wielders of the 4 blades we saw today resulting in a loss of a new generation in regard to those blades. Sound possible? If he killed them and later died, than there would be no official members able to replace them. Also, since no one officially killed and replaced Zabuza as a member, his portion of the 7SM generation line has also been cut. Considering Mangetsu was later killed, it would make sense that he wasn't considered a permanent wielder of any of the 7 swords. But he did have 4 of the 7 swords stored away for summoning at any time so I guess you could consider him the wielder of all of them.

But Mangetsu being considered among the previous 7SM is a bit concerning. If he did officially kill even one of those members we just saw, wouldn't he be considered part of the current generation, not the previous? I mean in reality, the 7th guy we saw should be the previous owner of Choujirou's Hiramikarei right? I guess it is possible, however, for Mangetsu to have been the official wielder of Hiramikarei at his time. Perhaps he killed the old Hiramikarei wielder and became an official member that way. Perhaps he then attempted to obtain all the blades and began taking out the other members. Its possible that after reaching a total of 5, Choujirou came along and killed him, taking the Hiramikarei away from him and becoming part of the current generation. If that were true, than it would explain why he only had access to 4 of the 7 for summoning, since only 1 of each of the 7 swords can exist at one time. Thoughts?

I agree with pretty much everything u stated. We dont know how Mangetsu was able to master all 7 swords, but it is suggested that the scroll he has was able to secure all the swords whenever he acquired them. Since Suigetsu lost the reaper blade that explains why Zabuza has it. Kisame has the Samehada(spellin lol) and Choujirou has the other. So to get to point 2 how can u say only 1 sword can exist at one time. After the summoning all 7 were present in the world at once.

 

[erosenninthethird]

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He specifically said that Raikiri was his only original justu. Saskue is just a spoiled brat that got every little power he asked for and was most likely taught how to manipulate it.

Thanks for clarification. As fas as every jutsu goes, after it is passed down in generations the jutsu is improved upon. Examples... naruto's shuriken rasengan, sasori's successor and his black "something something" (forgot names) and sasukes lightning blade

 

[tricky411]

there's a thing i want to ask you all...mangetsu used the scroll to summon the swords but he didn't managed to summon samehada and hiramekarei...why? even zabuza got his sword back....

Kabuto wasn't able to get his hands on the swords as Bee and Chojuri have them. Which is why Mangetsu didn't summon those swords.

 

[erosenninthethird]

And its about time for sasuke to appear...... it has been a long time for him to stay out of the spot light........... and honestly, kishi should at least make 30 paged manga....

Yes sasuke is do for an appearance. But to all of you who keep including Kishimoto in ur post saying he should do this and that. idk about ya'll but i think he is a master story teller and you should just follow the way he tells the story not how you want it told. we all want more, but its the manga. we wont get all the action cause it the story line. Just

 

[Dracule]

Good to see some info on the swords(That explosive sword is SICK!). So.....Suigetsu vs Mangetsu later on?

 

[erosenninthethird]

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lol it really did fail to meet the expectations of everyone to say the least, especially by making each page extremely short when explaining the 7 swordsmen:flaw:. suigetsu's older brother is an important charcter even if he just edo'd back, ive been wanting to see his older brother from some time now and its just helped me come up with a prediction now. basically since suigetsu cant find zabuza's sword (for obivious reasons) most likely jugo will continue to help him find his sword until sasuke finds them or madara finds them and tells them that sasuke will need their help with his next task...

(contiueing from that last point) which mostly will end up having suigetsu and jugo stumble onto the battle field and i highly doubt that they will join in the fight but most likely will steal zabuza's sword or someone else's sword. while doing this something may go down between suigetsu and his older brother if kabuto didnt take the other swordsmen personalities away, could be rival or caring brother situation like sai's bro. idk maybe somewhere in their they may get told by kakashi that they have karin, and if they plan on returning to sasuke they most likely will share karin's fate of being betrayed and nearly killed or die, which could change things up alot if it happens..

kabuto is definetly going to be a great help to madara during this war which sucks because that powerless clown gets to sit back and watch his own war take place without getting involved. hopefully kabuto brings back itachi, nagato, and a few of the others before sasuke or someone else does him in for good like his old pathetic master orochimaru. furthermore does that edo tensei technique still remain active after the user is dead? if so that could make people like kakuzu or deidara invincible, im really surprized that kabuto has not gone to find hidan and make a deal with him to work for kabuto. ethier way kabuto is bound to die some time soon, i really hope he gets impatient and goes after sasuke so we can see sasuke's new eyes at work

this whole thing about suigetsu looking for the swords to be the next leader is definetly very interesting to say the least. we didnt even learn alot about the swordsmen so im very disappointed so far, further more i was hoping to see sasukes new eyes, even if it was like only two pictures of it or even if was a tease by showing him taking the bandages off and not letting us see them, but giving us a hint that we'll be seeing him in this war very soon.. same goes for naruto's training with killa bee, when they all get involved this will really start to interesting.

kabuto said in a few mangas ago that orochimaru had perfected the edo tensei which make the technique work even after his death.

just went back and dbl checked and he never said that, i swore i read it but my mistake

 

[black uchiha]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i think kakashi copied his lightning attack which makes him unable to manipulate the technique. Sasuke was taught the technique that is why he is able to legthen it.

it is his only original tech..butwe only see him ues da chiordroi(spelling) and da dog thing in da fight with pain

He specifically said that Raikiri was his only original justu. Saskue is just a spoiled brat that got every little power he asked for and was most likely taught how to manipulate it.

no he works for what he has got, we know kakashi did not teach him to manipulate it i don't remember oro use'n any lighting techs...don't be like dat

Thanks for clarification. As fas as every jutsu goes, after it is passed down in generations the jutsu is improved upon. Examples... naruto's shuriken rasengan, sasori's successor and his black "something something" (forgot names) and sasukes lightning blade

right

Good to see some info on the swords(That explosive sword is SICK!). So.....Suigetsu vs Mangetsu later on?

hell yea it is

 

[Floydical]

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I agree with pretty much everything u stated. We dont know how Mangetsu was able to master all 7 swords, but it is suggested that the scroll he has was able to secure all the swords whenever he acquired them. Since Suigetsu lost the reaper blade that explains why Zabuza has it. Kisame has the Samehada(spellin lol) and Choujirou has the other. So to get to point 2 how can u say only 1 sword can exist at one time. After the summoning all 7 were present in the world at once.

I specifically said that only 1 of each of the 7 can exist in the world at once (meaning 7 total exist). That was to clarify to others why Mangetsu could not summon Samehada and Choujirou's blade. He couldn't summon them because they are elsewhere right now.

 

[try1x07]

i totally agree with you about the haku scene, i was extremely disappointed about it, i didnt figure it would turn out like the exact same thing that had took place about 3 years ago with their last encounter of haku and zabuza. but the terminology of the dragons balls is definetly a downfall to this great anime... just the fact that ok to give up your life to bring someone back was cool, but to do exactly what orochimaru did when he brought back the 1st and second hokage in a greater length by bringing back like what over 10 people? they definetly played it out wrong, even orochimaru had to be close to his edo'd summonings to make them lose their minds, but by doing this its shows that kabuto may have surpassed his master.

but like every bad guy his end draws closer with every chapter... as for the swordsmen i couldnt expect them to be the legendary 7 swordsmen of the mist if they were weak or they were just using ordinary swords, im glad that they each have they're own powers, it just adds more to the story even if it may seem boring now i cant wait to see it in the anime. also just a personal thought -> if sasuke fought any of them with his sword vs theirs i think he would win because that sword of his is said to be unbreakable, plus he streams his chidori making it pierce anything but another chakra streamer's sword plus he has gotten so good with his sharingan its making him to strong now for alot of people. give it some time and i think he will surpass the raikage too.


im getting tired of waiting so lets hear everyones theory on when and who will kill kabuto,

He will surpass the raikage too? I don't think so. Sasuke couldn't beat eight tailed killer bee alone. he could have killed in that battle if karin didn't heal him. I consider Yondaime Raikage is the stronger enough to crush sasuke even he used sussano and used amerstau on him and at yet he used dropped leg on him, he could have been killed fortunately gaara stopped him. Sasuke cearly underestimating Raikage.

 

[try1x07]

i totally agree with you about the haku scene, i was extremely disappointed about it, i didnt figure it would turn out like the exact same thing that had took place about 3 years ago with their last encounter of haku and zabuza. but the terminology of the dragons balls is definetly a downfall to this great anime... just the fact that ok to give up your life to bring someone back was cool, but to do exactly what orochimaru did when he brought back the 1st and second hokage in a greater length by bringing back like what over 10 people? they definetly played it out wrong, even orochimaru had to be close to his edo'd summonings to make them lose their minds, but by doing this its shows that kabuto may have surpassed his master.

but like every bad guy his end draws closer with every chapter... as for the swordsmen i couldnt expect them to be the legendary 7 swordsmen of the mist if they were weak or they were just using ordinary swords, im glad that they each have they're own powers, it just adds more to the story even if it may seem boring now i cant wait to see it in the anime. also just a personal thought -> if sasuke fought any of them with his sword vs theirs i think he would win because that sword of his is said to be unbreakable, plus he streams his chidori making it pierce anything but another chakra streamer's sword plus he has gotten so good with his sharingan its making him to strong now for alot of people. give it some time and i think he will surpass the raikage too.


im getting tired of waiting so lets hear everyones theory on when and who will kill kabuto,

He will surpass the raikage too? I don't think so. Sasuke couldn't beat eight tailed killer bee alone. he could have killed in that battle if karin didn't heal him. I consider Yondaime Raikage is the stronger enough to crush sasuke even he used sussano and used amerstau on him and at yet he used dropped leg on him, he could have been killed fortunately gaara stopped him. Sasuke cearly underestimating Raikage.

 

[erosenninthethird]

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I specifically said that only 1 of each of the 7 can exist in the world at once (meaning 7 total exist). That was to clarify to others why Mangetsu could not summon Samehada and Choujirou's blade. He couldn't summon them because they are elsewhere right now.

right on, misunderstood a bit

 

[Boobiee220]

Don't underestimate Kakashi guys! I doubt he is going to die, plus he has the Sharingan let's be real lol.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

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why does he say we need to buy time time for what any way okay chapter but not worth the wait but good to see the swords and the swordsmen some info sometimes chapters like this is good it makes the manga longer i dont want it to end anytime soon
and when are we going to see sasukes ems
also just one last thing how did mangetsu summon the swords they should have been with the current seven swordsmen like the expolsive sword should be in the possion of the guy in thehidden mist of the current swordsmen unless mangetsu stole it and put it in a scoll before he died

 

[jabznaruto]

Don't underestimate Kakashi guys! I doubt he is going to die, plus he has the Sharingan let's be real lol.

...yea, never...ever... you are right boobie220!
...understimating kakashi is the least thing to do in the current skirmishes!


a good 4/5 chapter!

points i offer for great discussions:

1. battle of the wits: so, we expect genius versus wits in the chapters to come. kakashi vs kabuto. though kabuto, of course, has the upperhand because he is “in hiding”, kakashi is not far enough in terms of battle plans. kabuto will have his hands full this time. kakashi with the nara clan will eventually get the better of kabuto’s demonic summons.

it is sad though, as i predicted, that more will die in the division. kakashi and gai expected this to happen. they will just have to minimize the casualties. where are the talented shinobis in the division? – we will see them soon.

…kakashi wins the battle of wits…he’s a lot wiser, smarter, cooler and more experienced than the freak in hiding.
“i go for kakashi and the division winning this one”. kabuto in hiding is the “flak” for the chapter’s 7sm swordsmen’s spectacle.

…who joins me in saying zabuza slices a log??? anyone…

2. which sword is yours????

…mine is “kusanagi” and totsuka/sakegari”…I will steal them from sasuke lol

..it was a good sword presentation in the chapter. i liked the way swords are discussed and emphasized. the shinobis in the division will surely suffer in the blades and terrible characteristics of the swords…but kabuto should know that his zombies could not go near any of the nara clan nins – or it’s the end of the show.

3. help me in a “kabuto hate campaign”. the serpent is dying for so much attention. i don’t hate him enough to earn my villain respect. the slitheryn’s just one coward of a monsters…c’mon…show up…let us see what you yourself – yes, your one slimmy presence - - can actually bring in the skirmishes. don’t just go around the bushes …boyyy!!!

4. suigetsu’s one good ambitious nin. we will come to see his progress in the coming chapters. he will re-unite with sasuke, together with jugo. and then, they will become one powerful group opposing madara. i could see suigetsu’s eye intention to become powerful like his brother…or maybe more powerful. he will be a character to watch for…suigetsu's eye emotions are better than kabuto's.

there are a lot of discussions going on…i hope i could join…

but first…any ideas re the points above?