Naruto >>> Madara Logically

Megatolium

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Come on, this is Shounen Jump. Main Character CANNOT die because they are the main asset here.

Logic like Madara's Susanoo can beat Naruto (stomp him ) with ease doesnt apply here, this is Main Character Advantage.

In this case Naruto might be weakened and forced to with Sasuke BUT it stil means Madara WILL have to die.

So plot beats powerful villain's in ANY manga there is. Example, look a Broly, he destroyed planets as a teenager, but Goku easily beats him.

Plot is the real power behind Naruto, not Sennin Mode or Bijuu chakra.


Whether you like it or not, its just how things are unfortunately.
 

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This is so true but i suppose we like to think that its cause of the power ups that he gets and not the actual plot but just because he got this power up.
 

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Madara said the only thing that compares to his power is a tailed beast. Naruto has one. Madara can be beaten but sealing him before he regenerates will be tough
 

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EVERYTHING that happens is plot. And this is wrong. Luffy lost to Enel once, Crocodile twice, Magellan, Ace, Sabo, Smoker, Akainu, Kizaru, and more. This proves your "plot guarantees victory for main character" is wrong.
 

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Plot No Jutsu leads it all.
It leads Naruto, it leads me, it leads you, it leads everyone!!
Joke, I agree Naruto just can't lose for being main char.
 

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EVERYTHING that happens is plot. And this is wrong. Luffy lost to Enel once, Crocodile twice, Magellan, Ace, Sabo, Smoker, Akainu, Kizaru, and more. This proves your "plot guarantees victory for main character" is wrong.

Im not saying main characters NEVER lose, they never die.
 

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Thats the real problem......by plot, Konohamaru >>>> Edo Madara + Kabuto, whereas by logic, if we compare their power, Edo Madara >>>>>>>> Naruto.


But still, because Naruto's story is not as lame as DBZ, where main character win everytime. Naruto was beaten down by Sasuke in valley of end etc. So, it may still come out that Madara owns Naruto and somehow Sasuke comes to help, or any other way......
 

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That's why it's rubbish, if it was real obito would have captured naruto already.
 
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Come on, this is Shounen Jump. Main Character CANNOT die because they are the main asset here.

Logic like Madara's Susanoo can beat Naruto (stomp him ) with ease doesnt apply here, this is Main Character Advantage.

In this case Naruto might be weakened and forced to with Sasuke BUT it stil means Madara WILL have to die.

So plot beats powerful villain's in ANY manga there is. Example, look a Broly, he destroyed planets as a teenager, but Goku easily beats him.

Plot is the real power behind Naruto, not Sennin Mode or Bijuu chakra.


Whether you like it or not, its just how things are unfortunately.


LOL if naruto dies then it wouldn't be called Naruto in the first place
 

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dude you're wrong,naruto in shippuden never won a fight,unless he has support,he would have lost many times but there's someone there to help him,and naruto obviously can't win against madara but he's the one that can stand against him this long,he will get help as always,main character was never applied when it comes to naruto
 

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Im not saying main characters NEVER lose, they never die.

i think someone needs to go and watch dragonball z xd

also in naruto i know he isnt the title character but Gaara has died once and is a main antagonist in the series, naruto CAN die, just if he does it is fairly certain he will come back either through a rinne tensei from either a freshly talk-no-jutsu'd obito or a newly reformed rinnegan sasuke.. also tsunade (if she survives her current situation) could give her life force much the same as chiyo did for gaara or sakura could prove herself to be the next tsunade herself and heal him from death itself.

saying the main character simply CANNOT die is redundant in anime where death doesnt mean the end
 

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i think someone needs to go and watch dragonball z xd

also in naruto i know he isnt the title character but Gaara has died once and is a main antagonist in the series, naruto CAN die, just if he does it is fairly certain he will come back either through a rinne tensei from either a freshly talk-no-jutsu'd obito or a newly reformed rinnegan sasuke.. also tsunade (if she survives her current situation) could give her life force much the same as chiyo did for gaara or sakura could prove herself to be the next tsunade herself and heal him from death itself.

saying the main character simply CANNOT die is redundant in anime where death doesnt mean the end

Being dead and coming back isnt considered in my language dead.
 

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Im not saying main characters NEVER lose, they never die.

Goku has died a lot of times so... Useless thread... Just joking i know what you are trying to say but i think plot no jutsu gives powers or strength to the main char and these powers leads to victory... The question is.. Whats the problem with this...? :p i think im ok with this...
 

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Being dead and coming back isnt considered in my language dead.

but you are using the fact that naruto cant die as a reason that he cant lose to madara which is just plain wrong.

naruto can and likely will lose to madara and be saved from near death by sasuke/tsunade/sakura, main characters can and do lose quite a lot of the time in animes.

you cant use Broly as an example because he is not from an anime series he is from 3 stand alone movies, of course he had to be defeated there was only max 2 hours for him in the first place, if you wanted to use a dbz example you should have gone for frieza which is basically the only fight in the whole series that goku wins as a 1v1 (unless you count king kai's "help")
 
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