Naruto lost his RSM, Sasuke is tiers above him now.

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He de-activate his TSB like Sasuke does with his tomoe, and he used jesus healing in Gaiden when he got stabbed
 

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Jesus Christ people, it's pretty obvious that Kishimoto likes to play around with Naruto's design in BSM/RSM lol. And as shown in the manga and The Last, Truth Seeking Balls come when the user wants them to and disappear on command. Naruto wasn't using RSM when he sealed Black Zetsu with Kaguya after all.
 

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Fail! Says Naruto lost RSM but post gaiden pic of him in RSM. :lmao:
 

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I got to agree with. The Naruto clowns on this one.. Naruto has RSM, it's just a weaker form because he doesn't have Bijuu chakra anymore.. He lost the TSB and KKG of the tail beast..
 

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I got to agree with. The Naruto clowns on this one.. Naruto has RSM, it's just a weaker form because he doesn't have Bijuu chakra anymore.. He lost the TSB and KKG of the tail beast..
Doubt it. I think we discussed that TSB aren't made from Bijuu chakra, whether you believe it or not is not really worth getting into a long debate about.

Naruto still has access to Bijuu chakra, if he needed it, he can always upgrade to the form. Nothing is holding him back except plot. There's no evidence proving that Naruto lost their chakra outside of him not using RSM, it's the same logic people used when Naruto used Sage Mode + Kyuubi chakra in the Last.

Now he uses Rikudou chakra in this film, but he doesn't go all out. Same with Sasuke, he doesn't even use his Rinnegan paths or his main Rinnegan abilities outside of his S/T.

Basically an overkill.
 

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Hagoromo, Juubito, Juudara and RSM Naruto all had the 9 magatama and rikudo circle on their backs, in addition to the truth seeking orbs.

Naruto is now missing all 3 of those things. I dont blame people who believe he has lost that power. In The Last, naruto clearly couldnt fly anymore, and we havent seen him use other tailed beast rasenshurikens again. Nor have we seen him use 3 headed kurama mode.
 

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Doubt it. I think we discussed that TSB aren't made from Bijuu chakra, whether you believe it or not is not really worth getting into a long debate about.

Naruto still has access to Bijuu chakra, if he needed it, he can always upgrade to the form. Nothing is holding him back except plot. There's no evidence proving that Naruto lost their chakra outside of him not using RSM, it's the same logic people used when Naruto used Sage Mode + Kyuubi chakra in the Last.

Now he uses Rikudou chakra in this film, but he doesn't go all out. Same with Sasuke, he doesn't even use his Rinnegan paths or his main Rinnegan abilities outside of his S/T.

Basically an overkill.

Lol you're right I don't want to have a long discussion about it..

Sasuke said Naruto was low on bijuu chakra, ever since Sasuke made that comment the TSB form has been MIA.
Plot is just a terrible excuse.. The guy was captured.. And needed to be saved, there's no way that would happen without Naruto using his most powerful form..
 

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threads like this shouldn't even exist when info has surfaced saying they are equal.
 

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This thread proves that EVEN WITHOUT RSM NARUTO=SASUKES FULL POWER... RSM TOO MUCH POWERFULL FOR SASUKE.
 

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even he lose RSM normal SM can negs. Manga have lots of scan to prove SM=Rinnegan. And yeah Sasuke rinnegan cant go any further doe he is not Nagato..
 

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Seems like it's absolutely clear now that Naruto had lost his Rikudou Sennin Mode along with his most powerful jutsu the Truth Seeking Balls.

Proofs:

War arc
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↑↑↑↑↑↑↑All the above are Naruto in 'KCM' not RSM!


This is what his RMS looks like:
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RSM Naruto has 7 TSB and 2 chakra rods,and if he does has RSM then he would have used it. Why would he use KCM when he has RSM that can instantly heal people, give limbs etc.


Sasuke on the other hand:

  • Still has his Rinnegan and it's fully mastered.
  • Able to enter Kaguya's dimensions ,he can even take other people with him
  • Has more battle experience since he's always on a mission.


Now that Naruto has lost his RSM (which mean no more TSB, jesus healing, Asura Avatar etc) it's clear that he's tiers below Sasuke now. And Sasuke can pretty much kill him any time he wants without plot-restriction.
You can deny/dislike all you want if you're a butthurt narutard, but it's fact.

anyway
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]And yet your word means nothing compared to kishi's. Sasuke: From boruto the movie

ナルトの最大のライバルにして最高�� �� �� �� �� �� �友。かつて憎しみに取り憑かれた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��も、友と軽口をたたきあえる大�� �� �� �� �� �に なった。あまり里には帰らないが、�� �� �� �� �� �� �れも里に迫る危機を未然に防ぐた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��。 本作ではボルトを弟子にとり、いつ�� �� �� �� �� �� �次第も変わらない忍の本質を見出�� �� �� �� �� �� ��とする。その実力はナルトと肩�� �� �� �� �� �並 べるほど。左の輪廻眼、右の万華鏡�� �� �� �� �� �� �輪眼という二つの最強瞳術を駆使�� �� �� �� �� �� ��戦う。

Although he's Naruto's greatest rival, he's also his best friend. Before, he was a boy who was obsessed with hatred. He became an adult who can banter with his friends. He doesn't return to the village very often, but he did so in order to prevent an impending crisis. In this movie, he has Boruto as his pupil. He tries to discover that no matter the circumstances, the true nature of shinobi doesn't change. His true abilities are to the extent that he's on par with Naruto. His left eye has a Rinnegan, and his right eye has the Mangekyou Sharingan. He uses the two strongest doujutsu when he battles.

Hence the on par part honestly some people refuse to accept that naruto/sasuke are equal, confirmed by kishimoto.[/QUOTE]
 

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Ok, seriously, this delusion has gone on long enough. The 4th databook categorized this as RSM as it was used as one of the RSM examples.

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No symbols, not cloak at all, no TSBs, just the sage-Kurama eyes without the pigmentation. This, and this alone is what determines what form he is using. This is a characteristic shared with Gaiden Naruto and Naruto in Boruto the movie.

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At this point, anyone saying that Naruto lost RSM are deluding themselves to prolong a disproven theory, but hey, if you want to believe that Kurama Sage Mode Naruto is Rinnegan Sasuke's physical equal (as their taijutsu performance shows equal contribution), and that Naruto, not using any special chakra was capable of making a ransengan that can blast someone through a shinju stump and into space, be my guest.
 

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Ok, seriously, this delusion has gone on long enough. The 4th databook categorized this as RSM as it was used as one of the RSM examples.

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No symbols, not cloak at all, no TSBs, just the sage-Kurama eyes without the pigmentation. This, and this alone is what determines what form he is using. This is a characteristic shared with Gaiden Naruto and Naruto in Boruto the movie.

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At this point, anyone saying that Naruto lost RSM are deluding themselves to prolong a disproven theory, but hey, if you want to believe that Kurama Sage Mode Naruto is Rinnegan Sasuke's physical equal (as their taijutsu performance shows equal contribution), and that Naruto, not using any special chakra was capable of making a ransengan that can blast someone through a shinju stump and into space, be my guest.

people just dont get it. Naruto even in single SM is too OP for Rinnegan user
 

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I don't see any proof that he lost it. :|
 
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