Naruto/Lee doesn't represent hard work, actually it's Sasuke.

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I must say Solo that I had underestimated you, till now I thought that you were a brainless wanker, now you're a wanker with a brain, that's good XD. Now if we want to be precise we need to actually clarify what hard work and natural talent means. Both Naruto and Lee didn't have natural talent at learning things, they did have though courage and in naruto's case an extraordinary chakra to pull off his hard training. From that aspect he was working hard and he was able to work that hard exactly because of his uzumaki' lineage, Kurama's chakra and his courage. For Lee I don't need to say anything. However, in Sasuke's case natural talent and hard work can coincide but with a different meaning than the one you gave. You said that Sasuke learned Lee's technique very fast and that's true. However, being only one technique by saying that he learned it so fast he might haven't worked that hard to be called hard-worker. BUT if we compare his 3 years training in which he was training non-stop, then yes there we can call it hard training because at the end of the day it's the amount of time you spend to get the title of a hard worker, not the efficiency with which you end up doing things.
 

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im not saying i dont count anything he does as work =.= but he sure as heck doesnt symbolize work. seeing as all his powerups and abilities are handed to him.

The only ability he ever legitimately worked for was the lightning blade.

i mean. unless theres some secret sasuke orochimaru training montage that i dont know about.
What a fool you are.
First of all, it's called Chidori, not Lightning Blade. Second, Sasuke trained for more than just that:
>Fire Ball jutsu
>Chidori, Chidori Nagashi, Chidori senbon, Chidori Spear, Chidori sword
>Shunshin/speed
>Sharingan jutsu (genjutsu)
>Shurikenjutsu

Sasuke has also gotten better at Kenjutsu.
 

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tell me how naruto without natural talent can learn complex jutsu like FRS or sage mode in short time?
 

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Well knowing your trolling past i am not taking the bait.

But you contradicted yourself a lot Solo, would expect a better performance from you; tsk tsk.
 

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6 pages? Nice bait thread.
 

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Might Gai /thread. Tell me someone who can hurt the Juubi jin without special kekkai genkai. But he dies afterward unfortuneatly but Gai is still a taijutsu god since he developed his skill on his own.
 

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Lord Sasuke is combination of hard worker and a genius. He's book smart and battle smart. He's perfect being.
 

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It took Naruto 17 years to get were He is now,17 to learn the control He has. 17 Years fighting the odds. If thats not hard work then what is it?
 

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Naruto doesn't represent hard work, because of the Uzumaki bloodline and Kurama. The chances of you becoming like Naruto is zero to none. Now, you're all gonna cry and say, "But Solo, Sasuke is an Uchiha. He's blessed with power." That is true. The difference is Naruto's bloodline and Kurama guarantee he'll have high chakra reserves and a long life. Just being in the Uchiha doesn't mean you'll be OP. You still gotta train your ass off.


Sasuke is the perfect example of hard work. He's also natural talented which is a plus. Sasuke trains more than Rock Lee and Guy. Sasuke was late for the Chunin Exams because he was busy training. Even after the Chunin Exams Sasuke continued training.
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People confuse Sasuke's hard work with natural talent. What took Rock Lee his entire life, Sasuke manages to accomplish it in a month's time:
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Training is Sasuke's hobby. Now, Sasuke is hasty when it comes to the results of power. Sasuke left the Leaf because he believe he wasn't getting stronger. He left his village to TRAIN. Even during after the timeskip, Sasuke was still training his butt off:
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Even when he obtained the MS, he was training in secret. Not even Obito knew he learned a new summoning. And Obito is the stalking king.
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Even in the heart of battle of Sasuke is still training:
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Sasuke using practicing his Sharingan for the time.

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Sasuke using MS: Genjutsu for the first time.

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Sasuke also wanted to test his Susano'o during the 5 Kage Summit.

On top of training Sasuke finds time to study and even became a snake expert:
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Sasuke work harder than anyone in this manga .The only difference is Sasuke doesn't have to work his ass off for result in his training. That is where his natural talent come in. There is not a single soul who work harder than Sasuke. I have provided you manga facts, now watch as people deny it.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH loooooooooool what for bullshit
 

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@spacey if plot wasn't on their side both nardo and sauce will be sh#tting in pants against lee despite their borrowed eyes and beast
 

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I agree with everything but the fact that he trained more than anyone. Sasuke trained, that's for sure; however, some chars. trained more than him. Not forgetting that Sasuke is a genius, which means that he excel at something with less amount of tries.
 

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I do not understand, how you can say something like that. Sasuke is not a hardworker U_U:rolleyes:
 

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Naruto doesn't represent hard work, because of the Uzumaki bloodline and Kurama. The chances of you becoming like Naruto is zero to none. Now, you're all gonna cry and say, "But Solo, Sasuke is an Uchiha. He's blessed with power." That is true. The difference is Naruto's bloodline and Kurama guarantee he'll have high chakra reserves and a long life. Just being in the Uchiha doesn't mean you'll be OP. You still gotta train your ass off.


Sasuke is the perfect example of hard work. He's also natural talented which is a plus. Sasuke trains more than Rock Lee and Guy. Sasuke was late for the Chunin Exams because he was busy training. Even after the Chunin Exams Sasuke continued training.
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People confuse Sasuke's hard work with natural talent. What took Rock Lee his entire life, Sasuke manages to accomplish it in a month's time:
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Training is Sasuke's hobby. Now, Sasuke is hasty when it comes to the results of power. Sasuke left the Leaf because he believe he wasn't getting stronger. He left his village to TRAIN. Even during after the timeskip, Sasuke was still training his butt off:
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Even when he obtained the MS, he was training in secret. Not even Obito knew he learned a new summoning. And Obito is the stalking king.
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Even in the heart of battle of Sasuke is still training:
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Sasuke using practicing his Sharingan for the time.

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Sasuke using MS: Genjutsu for the first time.

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Sasuke also wanted to test his Susano'o during the 5 Kage Summit.

On top of training Sasuke finds time to study and even became a snake expert:
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Sasuke work harder than anyone in this manga .The only difference is Sasuke doesn't have to work his ass off for result in his training. That is where his natural talent come in. There is not a single soul who work harder than Sasuke. I have provided you manga facts, now watch as people deny it.

The bold makes it not Sasuke because of his Uchiha bloodline so your made your own post irrelevant. Why Sasuke doesn't represent hard work like Naruto and Lee are, Sasuke used Orochimaru's drugs to get stronger; In part one, it increased Sasuke's base stats a lot as well as gave him CM 2 and Sakura and Tsunade, two highly trained medical ninjas, believe Sasuke was using drugs or forbidden jutsu to increase his growth since it was unnatural .

Then he automatically gets MS after losing CM and began spamming the jutsus, then got EMS and spammed more. I'm ok with that free power up but I wanted Sasuke to actually train with his EMS so we can see it's true power but we never seen Sasuke fully master it and it looks like he's about to get the Rinnegan or some other power up eye. It's as Lee said, since Sasuke have natural talent, he doesn't have to train as hard as a regular person would, Naruto actually had to train harder than others since he lacked the basics (Jiraiya helped honed those skills tho). It's as the Sage saged about Ashura, he was weak at first but when he worked with others, know suffering and hard work then his chakra bloomed; Naruto got stronger this same way.

Also Naruto actually had to train to not only get Kurama's power but to use it and even when he was using it, he had the risk of being killed since Kurama was taking some of his chakra too until he chose to stop. Sasuke did train hard but Naruto is shown to train harder than most people, not only because Kurama makes Naruto's chakra control much harder as stated by Kakashi . Also you noticed how Sasuke was about to get Lee speed and Taijutsus but it was said Sasuke used the sharingan to copy Lee's moves and used that to help him in increasing his speed which was still hard but easier from using the sharingan to copy Lee's style as Kakashi stated .

Also you do know even after getting as strong as Sasuke did, he knew he couldn't beat Gaara yet Naruto did and Sasuke was amazed by Naruto's power so doesn't that mean Naruto came farther than Sasuke in just that month's time since Sasuke was stronger than him prior to that month training and .
 
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