Naruto + Kurama = a tag team?????

[KingHashirama]

This whole thing about, Naruto + Kurama = a tag team, or that Naruto gets kurama's help in his fight, seems pretty dumb to me. Especially when people compare him to Madara + Kyuubi. Its like how the freaking hell is that the same situation?


Naruto and Kurama are 2 sides to 1 coin. Aka 2 minds in 1 body. Just like Killer B and Hachibi.

If one is out, the other can't be out. So how exactly is any naruto VS situation a 2 vs 1?

People said in the pain arc, Naruto had Kurama's help, however thats bunch of BS. Kurama IS Naruto's body. In the end its all about the body not the freaking minds, but the body. If it is coming from his body, then it his power.


You can't defend the case of Madara + Kurama vs Hashirama..... to Naruto, to justify Kurama being Madara's power.

ARSENAL doesn't = POWER. Summoning jutsu is teleportation jutsu to summon upon something. And then people are gonna compare it to a TOOL.... a tool is a non living thing. Simple example is, If i were to summon you for help, would you be MY power, or your own power? Is your power mine or yours?



But yea, Kurama and Naruto are 1 and the same body. Kurama's power is Naruto's power, Naruto's power is Kurama's power.


PS: don't post troll comments, if your gonna act all mad, just simply don't post. I made this because i wanted to discuss if people have changed their mind or not.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Well you do have a good point U_u

 

[panther27]

well example could be if naruto was put under genjutsu his "tag team partner" could snap him out of it.

 

[KingHashirama]

well example could be if naruto was put under genjutsu his "tag team partner" could snap him out of it.

His second mind disrupts the chakra flow. Thats all there is.

 

[EPICMenma]

Well, I Agreeed...

 

[Kαmi]

Agreed. "Naruto & Kurama" is really just Naruto's power as a jinchuuriki.

 

[Draphsin]

This whole thing about, Naruto + Kurama = a tag team, or that Naruto gets kurama's help in his fight, seems pretty dumb to me. Especially when people compare him to Madara + Kyuubi. Its like how the freaking hell is that the same situation?


Naruto and Kurama are 2 sides to 1 coin. Aka 2 minds in 1 body. Just like Killer B and Hachibi.

If one is out, the other can't be out. So how exactly is any naruto VS situation a 2 vs 1?

People said in the pain arc, Naruto had Kurama's help, however thats bunch of BS. Kurama IS Naruto's body. In the end its all about the body not the freaking minds, but the body. If it is coming from his body, then it his power.


You can't defend the case of Madara + Kurama vs Hashirama..... to Naruto, to justify Kurama being Madara's power.

ARSENAL doesn't = POWER. Summoning jutsu is teleportation jutsu to summon upon something. And then people are gonna compare it to a TOOL.... a tool is a non living thing. Simple example is, If i were to summon you for help, would you be MY power, or your own power? Is your power mine or yours?



But yea, Kurama and Naruto are 1 and the same body. Kurama's power is Naruto's power, Naruto's power is Kurama's power.


PS: don't post troll comments, if your gonna act all mad, just simply don't post. I made this because i wanted to discuss if people have changed their mind or not.

Kurama is kurama

Naruto is using kurama, whether its willingly or not is irrelevant. The fact that naruto takes chakra from kurama and uses it (doesnt matter how) makes it a separate entity from naruto.

When obito & madara were attached to the juubi it was the exact same concept.

Same with madara & kurama/bee & gyuki/ any jinchuuriki, samehada & kisame, etc...

Naruto isnt kurama, he uses kurama, end of discussion

 

[panther27]

His second mind disrupts the chakra flow. Thats all there is.

the second mind thinks for its self so that would be considered a team mate right.

 

[NArutouzzi]

I agree with you somewhat, but with pain it was plot of course but kurama is the one who wore pain down, yea naruto gave a hell of a fight up untill the last pain but if it wasn't for the 9 tails naruto would of gotten stomped. Now he deserves to be said that kurama's power is his power because he beat him in a battle stole his chakra nd shut his as$ up. Also now he even convinced kurama to work together with him Nd give him as much power as he can. SO in all yea Naruto nd kurama are 1 he absolutely deserves to be said that its his own power through all he accomplished, I mean come on the 9tails is the most evil one out of the tailed beast and the most powerful, that's some damn luck/skill to get him to fully bind with naruto. So yea as of now kurama nd naruto are one idc what people say he earned that power through hard work.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kurama is kurama

Naruto is using kurama, whether its willingly or not is irrelevant. The fact that naruto takes chakra from kurama and uses it (doesnt matter how) makes it a separate entity from naruto.

When obito & madara were attached to the juubi it was the exact same concept.

Same with madara & kurama/bee & gyuki/ any jinchuuriki, samehada & kisame, etc...

Naruto isnt kurama, he uses kurama, end of discussion

Wrong, Kurama and Naruto share the same body, Unless you can show me where Naruto and Kurama are different from each other. The fact that Kurama LIVES inside Naruto's body, gives Naruto the RIGHT to take Kurama's chakra and he molds it into his own (Stated by Kurama). =]. See your problem is your saying the "Why" and the "how" doesn't matter, when in realty it does.

Obito and Madara and juubi are 3 different beings...... While Naruto and Kurama are the same body.... i don't know how the hell you can even compare them....

Hashirama faced 2 seperate beings. Pain faced 1 single being.


Naruto is Kurama (Body-wise) , if you don't want to admit it, thats your choice mate.

the second mind thinks for its self so that would be considered a team mate right.

Inside the body.. lol. I'm talking about in a fight... for a tag team you need 2 bodies.

I agree with you somewhat, but with pain it was plot of course but kurama is the one who wore pain down, yea naruto gave a hell of a fight up untill the last pain but if it wasn't for the 9 tails naruto would of gotten stomped. Now he deserves to be said that kurama's power is his power because he beat him in a battle stole his chakra nd shut his as$ up. Also now he even convinced kurama to work together with him Nd give him as much power as he can. SO in all yea Naruto nd kurama are 1 he absolutely deserves to be said that its his own power through all he accomplished, I mean come on the 9tails is the most evil one out of the tailed beast and the most powerful, that's some damn luck/skill to get him to fully bind with naruto. So yea as of now kurama nd naruto are one idc what people say he earned that power through hard work.

Same excuse can be made for pain. Pain only got that far against Naruto due to Danzo's action of making Naruto arrive late. If Naruto had arrived on time then it would've been a 2 vs 6

 

[Draphsin]

Wrong, Kurama and Naruto share the same body, Unless you can show me where Naruto and Kurama are different from each other. The fact that Kurama LIVES inside Naruto's body, gives Naruto the RIGHT to take Kurama's chakra and he molds it into his own (Stated by Kurama). =]. See your problem is your saying the "Why" and the "how" doesn't matter, when in realty it does.

No.....Kurama's location holds no relevence, just because kurama lives inside of naruto doesnt give him the right to take his chakra. Otherwise all bijuu would just hand it out.

Naruto had to work to control the being that was living inside of him, just because that being can occupy naruto's body still doesnt change the fact that its kurama's being.

Obito and Madara and juubi are 3 different beings...... While Naruto and Kurama are the same body.... i don't know how the hell you can even compare them....

Hashirama faced 2 seperate beings. Pain faced 1 single being.


Naruto is Kurama (Body-wise) , if you don't want to admit it, thats your choice mate.

Obito & madara were using the juubi's chakra, the exact same way that naruto uses kurama's chakra.

Pein faced SM naruto, and 6-8 tail kurama. Those are two seperate beings, that occupy 1 body....theyre still two beings

Naruto is kurama body wise, but not spirit/chakra/being wise.

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[Penguin]

Kurama is kurama

Naruto is using kurama, whether its willingly or not is irrelevant. The fact that naruto takes chakra from kurama and uses it (doesnt matter how) makes it a separate entity from naruto.

When obito & madara were attached to the juubi it was the exact same concept.

Same with madara & kurama/bee & gyuki/ any jinchuuriki, samehada & kisame, etc...

Naruto isnt kurama, he uses kurama, end of discussion

I have to agree. I like this guy!

 

[Memoria]

Some people are still butthurt that current Naruto is top 5 strongest character. So they try to deny him his powers. I'd suggest leaving them with their bullsh!t.

 

[Draphsin]

Some people are still butthurt that current Naruto is top 5 strongest character. So they try to deny him his powers. I'd suggest leaving them with their bullsh!t.

Im not denying his powers

I already know that he's top 5, but kurama is his power just as much as it is EMS madara's

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Kyuubi is Madara's summon... it's very different from Naruto's case as the Kyuubi doesn't give him massive amounts of chakra and it doesn't provide him intel on the adversary.

-Madara and the Kyuubi is a one man army mostly because of the fact that Madara is the one manipulating the Bijuu to do his bidding (give the guy a break, I bet manipulating that beast can drain a huge chunk out of his chakra).

-Kurama and Naruto is composed of a kid and a knowledgeable chakra tank (provides intel, increases his abilities by a considerable amount, regenerative factor, instant chakra gain, cloak protection, etc.)

 

[KingHashirama]

Kyuubi is Madara's summon... it's very different from Naruto's case as the Kyuubi doesn't give him massive amounts of chakra and it doesn't provide him intel on the adversary.

-Madara and the Kyuubi is a one man army mostly because of the fact that Madara is the one manipulating the Bijuu to do his bidding (give the guy a break, I bet manipulating that beast can drain a huge chunk out of his chakra).

-Kurama and Naruto is composed of a kid and a knowledgeable chakra tank (provides intel, increases his abilities by a considerable amount, regenerative factor, instant chakra gain, cloak protection, etc.)

Genjutsu manipulation really doesn't take away that much chakra... lol. And also, have you forgot about PS+ Kyuubi combination? that easily smashes on Naruto..

My point is Naruto + Kurama = 1 person, while Madara + Kurama = 2 people.

No.....Kurama's location holds no relevence, just because kurama lives inside of naruto doesnt give him the right to take his chakra. Otherwise all bijuu would just hand it out.

Naruto had to work to control the being that was living inside of him, just because that being can occupy naruto's body still doesnt change the fact that its kurama's being.
Obito & madara were using the juubi's chakra, the exact same way that naruto uses kurama's chakra.
Pein faced SM naruto, and 6-8 tail kurama. Those are two seperate beings, that occupy 1 body....theyre still two beings
Naruto is kurama body wise, but not spirit/chakra/being wise.

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Kurama's location does hold relevence.. hell that is the whole plot .. Kurama's location is the thing that is causing the war.... samething that got Konoha destroyed. And also, it doesn't mean that bijuus agree with it.. but like Naruto said, "Its time to pay up the loan".

Naruto had to work.. he got the right. And I already told you, I'm talking about bodies. If your blind enough to not see how much of a big impact 2 bodies compared to 1 body make then this whole arguement is pointless.

Obito and Madara are manipulating the Juubi to do jutsus.. they themselves don't have the Juubi's chakra.. Juubi is using its own chakra to do its own attacks that Obito and Madara commanded them.

Sorry sir, Pain faced Naruto Uzumaki. Kurama is Naruto's body.. That very same body that Kurama was turning into the complete 9-tails form for. That was Naruto's body.

And if you had read specifically my post.. I stated he is Kurama BODY wise.. by being I was referring to his body.


When you say Madara + Kurama is the same as Naruto + Kurama , then your saying 1 body = 2 bodies. However that is false, Madara can attack and so can the 9-tails.... Naruto and Kurama have to share the same body to attack....

 

[Memoria]

Im not denying his powers

I already know that he's top 5, but kurama is his power just as much as it is EMS madara's

Yet you said this:

just because kurama lives inside of naruto doesnt give him the right to take his chakra.

By your logic Naruto shouldn't take chakra from Kurama. I had a good laugh.

 

[Trea]

Naruto and Kurama are not a tag team, but they are a team. I believe they almost always were, however grudgingly, on Kurama's part. There are many times where Kurama could have allowed Naruto to be killed or seriously injured and chose to give his chakra or his strength at those times. There are also many times where Kurama let Naruto get really beat up and did nothing. I think that if Naruto died Kurama could have had his freedom again. Kushina mentioned to Minato that it wasn't necessary for him to die too since Kurama would be sealed within her for a time after her death. And yet Kurama chose those times to intervene and help Naruto.

Somewhere along the line Kurama decided he was better off taking his chances with Naruto than with anyone else. His attempts to control Naruto failed. Naruto went through his whole life feeling the pain and loneliness of being a jinchuriki. He trained hard, kept trying no matter how many failures and even became a sage all without Kurama's power. He was able to become a sage and do the rasengan because of his Uzamaki chakra not because of Kurama's chakra.

Until recently Kurama took every opportunity to taunt Naruto but somewhere along the line gained a grudging respect for the boy who refused to give up and kept trying even when the odds were against him. Kurama believes Naruto is the one the SO6P was speaking of that will unite all of the tailed beasts and is now willing to support Naruto. Support him, not be him, because they are two minds in one body and he trusts Naruto not to abuse that power.

Kurama lends his chakra to Naruto because of Naruto's own strength. Naruto has earned the right to use Kurama's chakra and if Kurama didn't believe that he would continue to sit back and watch without helping.

 

[Nous]

Thank you! Somebody finally can like read my mind! U_U I agree with you.

 

[Invsblphntm]

I find it very disrespectful that you believe Kurama is just a TOOL of Naruto.

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You're starting to think like Madara.