Naruto is the strongest(not because he is the main character)

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Nagato and Obito aren't stronger than Naruto.


Nagato......well this guy explained it clearly



As for Obito, Naruto already raped his Bijuus and Kurama can take care of Gedo Mazo. All Obito can do without Gedo Mazo is shield himself from attacks with Kamui, that's not winning a fight if you have to staying on the defense.
Obito stomps naruto

1. Naruto raped his jinchuriki paths? Bee saved his ass, he cant take on 5 bijuu by himself

2. Gedo mazou is strong enough to go toe to toe with kurama, but it isnt for fighting power anyways. obito will use it as a distraction for his kamui, which naruto has no counter for

3. Obito can use his paths, and gedo statue for offence while he uses kamui to take care of him from below...Also, obito has multiple attacks that he can use offensively in conjunction with kamui + mokuton which can also be used to suppress kurama's chakra


What does Nagato even have to put Naruto down?
Human path, CBT, preta path & outer path

-His Gedo control is inferior to Obito's due to the lack of Senju DNA.
He doesnt need the gedo statue, all he needs is soul dragon but thats his trump card because it can wipe out naruto

-Chibaku Tensei is effortlessly destroyed by Bijuu Dama.
CBT can be created again, and CBT makes for a great distraction in conjunction with nagato's chameleon, which he cant be sensed in

-CST is easily tanked by Naruto's Kurama cloak as it withstood a Juubi laser and Naruto himself took no damage. Since CST isn't going to do any damage to Naruto himself any lower scale ST won't either.
chou shinra tensei is powerful enough to blow back any barrage of clones. It wont be used to kill him but it can easily clear much needed distance between the two, thus allowing nagato to use another jutsu

-Preta to absorb his cloak is his only chance, but that's if Nagato even manages to lay a hand on him, that also leaves him wide open for an attack by Naruto's SM Clones.
Shinra tensei takes care of clones, preta will be used to finish off the stragglers that are still trying to attack. Also nagato can easily absorb kurama's chakra arms, thus removing the restriction of him needing to touch naruto

Nagato can't beat Naruto.
I believe he can :rolleyes:
 
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It's only the matter of people's perspective....

This debate only arise when people tends to think that Naruto 'll become the strongest, which isn't true...
It actually is, "It's about Naruto who became the strongest"...
 

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Obito stomps naruto

1. Naruto raped his jinchuriki paths? Bee saved his ass, he cant take on 5 bijuu by himself

2. Gedo mazou is strong enough to go toe to toe with kurama, but it isnt for fighting power anyways. obito will use it as a distraction for his kamui, which naruto has no counter for

3. Obito can use his paths, and gedo statue for offence while he uses kamui to take care of him from below...Also, obito has multiple attacks that he can use offensively in conjunction with kamui + mokuton which can also be used to suppress kurama's chakra




Human path, CBT, preta path & outer path


He doesnt need the gedo statue, all he needs is soul dragon but thats his trump card because it can wipe out naruto



CBT can be created again, and CBT makes for a great distraction in conjunction with nagato's chameleon, which he cant be sensed in



chou shinra tensei is powerful enough to blow back any barrage of clones. It wont be used to kill him but it can easily clear much needed distance between the two, thus allowing nagato to use another jutsu



Shinra tensei takes care of clones, preta will be used to finish off the stragglers that are still trying to attack. Also nagato can easily absorb kurama's chakra arms, thus removing the restriction of him needing to touch naruto



I believe he can :rolleyes:
This!This! and THIS.
 

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1. Naruto has been shown to run out of chakra, and once he does he' helpless. If you think that he can create the amount of clones you're describing without losing chakra before nagato (who also has an amazing chakra reserve) then you are severely overrating naruto's strength...

2. Chameleon moves, nagato isnt dumb enough to let naruto find him in his summon, he will be well away from the area, letting his summons and CBT do the work

3. Not the gedo statue, the soul dragon...Which a) naruto has never seen, so if he touches it and b) isnt made up of chakra so it will phase through anything (including clones) and c) is when absorbing its souls, so naruto wont even have time to react...If nagato uses the gedo statue then naruto is dead...

4. Nagato on his could have made the CBT large enough to capture an 8 tails naruto...Healthy nagato can easily make a CBT twice as big...Given the ammount of chakra/lifeforce that he's diminished over his life and the battle...



The juubi withstood a nuke sized tbb from inside of its own stomach...He flicked bee's tbb like a fly, lol. Rasenshurikens will be breakfast for him

I also wanna ask you a question, If naruto can make so many clones then tell me why he isnt doing that currently?? He isnt because its either useless or he cant without wasting a metric ton of chakra
1. And u think nagato doesnt run out of chakra please naruto has way more chakra and create many clones which automatically puts nagato in a disadvantage.

Nagato is strong but current naruto is too much he took on so many opponents throughout the war, add in his sm and summons along with his BM naruto is top 3 material

Nagato's shinra tensei can easily be repelled as naruto is shown to deflect 5 tbbs at once and his CTB is useless as naruto can beat with multiple FRS or tbb

Naruto can have sm and bm clones out at the same time which can allow him to counter preta path via frog katas and add in his summons which can easily keep nagato's summons busy.

Not to mention naruto is a lot better with controlling his power and not to mention his speed advantage over nagato makes him a hell of an enemy.

and asura path is nearly useless against naruto, naruto has most of the counters to nagato's arsenal so if there was a rematch he would win.

the gedo statue puts nagato in a state like this


unless naruto sits there looking aorund he wouldnt let that go its an easy opening especially for someone as fast as naruto or anyone with multiple clones

nagato when he is not edo is limited even if he has great reserves naruto easily outmatches him there, with clones and speed. naruto is too much to handle for nagato. but the likes of kabuto, obito edo madara can beat him and hashirama too is a good candidate considering he has biju suppressing abilities
 
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No because a small Shinra Tensei could wipe out all of them due to the scarcity of chakra that built them...

Also Hashirama > Naruto because my user name says so.
 

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You obviously missed the part where nagato made a CBT strong enough to capture 8 tail naruto on his deathbed.

Healthy nagato wins
fact: there is no healthy nagato he had his legs burned and using the rinnegan throughout his whole life made him what he was, there is no healthy nagato his strongest stage was when he was barely able to move but still had the rinnegan which made him godly character
 

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nagato is not stronger than naruto would give him a good fight but not better this is my reasoning for why naruto>nagato:

naruto has most of the counters on nagato

Naruto has shown that even his six tailed form can not only resist shinra tensei but push pain back and i know you are going to say he wasnt at full power but neither was naruto not even close to it.

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nagato using regular shinra tensei on naruto would be to his disadvantage as he would be pushed back

and naruto in bm can deflect tbbs which destroys mountains way more powerful than nagato's regular shinra tensei
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he even beat bansho tenin with his chakra arms with ease
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And mind you nagato has limited mobility while naruto is incredibly fast i dont have to post links for that. And naruto has a counter to preta path which is frog katas or plain shuriken used as a knife like how minato threatened bee during their meeting
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And we all know that naruto can use sm clones alongside bm/km clones hell they kuruma can even protect his clones etc when nagato attacks with asura or shinra tensei like he did here for gai and kakashi
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asura path is almost useless against the like of naruto and in general not too effective.

naruto has his own summons that can occupy nagato's summons rendering his shared vision to be less useful add in a km clone there to help out the toads and nagato's shared vision would be effectively lowered.

Human path is not too useful when naruto has multiple clones out who can help him and you have to consider the fact that naruto is also generally too fast for him to be caught in it. And if he does he isnt in a disadvantage like when he was during their last encounter since he has clones that can save him instead of itachi, and we all kno the clones where elsewhere in the battlefield and that was not even close to naruto's full potential.

And we know that CT is useless on naruto now as he is has tbbs to save his ass which which naruto has been able to spam. naruto has a counter to everything nagato has to offer. And lets add naruto's advantage he is faster, has clones to make a hell of a lot more distractions and has a LOT MORE CHAKRA ofc including kuruma and sm which can natural energy on its own. l

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Naruto wins the fight with mid-hard diffuculty especially consdiering the fact that nagato has low mobility and if a clone and bunch of toads can occupy his summons making his shared vision a lot less effective making him a lot more vulnerable as kabuto mentions here

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Naruto beats Nagato its silly how far ppl push nagato he is one of the best in the show but current naruto with his full arsenal beats nagato.
 
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