Naruto is the most nerfed character + manga facts.

[Animegoin]

Sasuke still lacks other 7 path abilities or rather he still didnt use them. The only thing he still is using is Ameno and according to Kurama and the vote 2 - his rinnegan abilities didnt improve at all from what we have seen

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Yeah dude, he literally has a god level eye that’s made for his chakra reserve and yet doesn’t display any of it. I can’t help but wonder that if he’d fought Pain or Edo Nagato, would he fully understand the capabilities of his eyes? I’ve been wondering the same thing about Madara, because we know for a fact that Ressurected war-arc Madara had lost his arm while battling the Bijuu, it’s possible that he didn’t know about the Asura path. Of course plot-armor via nerfing is the ultimate answer but still, I’m pissed.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21725670" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21725670">Animegoin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yeah dude, he literally has a god level eye that’s made for his chakra reserve and yet doesn’t display any of it. I can’t help but wonder that if he’d fought Pain or Edo Nagato, would he fully understand the capabilities of his eyes? I’ve been wondering the same thing about Madara, because we know for a fact that Ressurected war-arc Madara had lost his arm while battling the Bijuu, it’s possible that he didn’t know about the Asura path. Of course plot-armor via nerfing is the ultimate answer but still, I’m pissed. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I know. So, Nagato which his Rinnegan wasnt even originaly his displayed so much more then Madara his own eyes - this kinda of stuff are pissing me off the most. It doesnt matter if Sasuke will see or seen, even Madara - Nagato never even seen from anyone what kind of paths Rinnegan abiliies have but they come with the eye knowledge and it takes time for the user to know more about them as the power with the eyes grow . Same about EMS - the user are granted with 2 unique powers and they unlock them during the some time<br /> <br /> Madara and Sasuke used preta path - Sasuke was on smaller scale since his Rinnegan was still new&quot; - but he is grown up now and still his Rinnegan power didnt improve at all - <br /> <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div><br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div></div>

 

[Animegoin]

I know. So, Nagato which his Rinnegan wasnt even originaly his displayed so much more then Madara his own eyes - this kinda of stuff are pissing me off the most. It doesnt matter if Sasuke will see or seen, even Madara - Nagato never even seen from anyone what kind of paths Rinnegan abiliies have but they come with the eye knowledge and it takes time for the user to know more about them as the power with the eyes grow . Same about EMS - the user are granted with 2 unique powers and they unlock them during the some time

Madara and Sasuke used preta path - Sasuke was on smaller scale since his Rinnegan was still new" - but he is grown up now and still his Rinnegan power didnt improve at all -

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Exactly! Sasuke also used the Deva path via Chibaku Tensei and even if Sasuke only used the Deva path in battles; that’s a HUGE advantage. Madara was nerfed like a mofo but Sasuke is in the process of being nerfed, that’s what infuriated me my dude.

 

[To Whatever]

Sasuke still lacks other 7 path abilities or rather he still didnt use them. The only thing he still is using is Ameno and according to Kurama and the vote 2 - his rinnegan abilities didnt improve at all from what we have seen

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That's a limitation. Understand what a nerf is, son.


Naruto was moving at speeds faster than anything seen in the series bar spacetime at KCM and Kurama Mode

Madara had a fuckton of abilities including broken concepts such as Limbo which are 1:1 shadows of Madara.

These two were lampshaded or outright nerfed.



Sasuke was limited because he would have been a problem. He didn't have the power to begin with. Naruto and Madara were given obscene power then had it nerfed or revoked. Look at out inconsistent Naruto/Obito/Madara are in the war arc.

It's like the inverse of what they allowed Kakashi to do with Kamui.




A Nerf is something that was strong or too strong and had to be de-powered After it became apparent that it's an issue.

Sasuke didn't have it to begin with. Madara and Naruto did.


What did get nerfed was Sasuke's insanely stupid speed he had in early part 2.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21725691" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21725691">Animegoin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Exactly! Sasuke also used the Deva path via Chibaku Tensei and even if Sasuke only used the Deva path in battles; that’s a HUGE advantage. Madara was nerfed like a mofo but Sasuke is in the process of being nerfed, that’s what infuriated me my dude. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Even in the vote 2 fight he only used CT to capture the tailed beast other then that im not a big fan of CT and that technique is pretty much useless against strong opponents since they can easily destroy the core with just one strong jutsu TBB for example. <br /> Sasuke was nerfed ever since he got Rinnegan , same goes with Madara - if it wasnt really nerfed no one would even could fight them - and if you remember edo Nagato vs Naruto- even with all that power, Nagato was untouchable <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21725695" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21725695">Wilds said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> That's a limitation. Understand what a nerf is, son.<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Naruto was moving at speed faster than anything seen in the series bar spacetime<b><i> at KCM and Kurama Mode</i></b><br /> <br /> Madara had a fuckton of abilities including broken concepts such as Limbo which are 1:1 shadows of Madara.<br /> <br /> These two were lampshaded or outright nerfed.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Sasuke was limited because he would have been a problem. He didn't have the power to begin with. Naruto and Madara were given obscene power then had it nerfed or revoked. Look at out inconsistent Naruto/Obito/Madara are in the war arc.<br /> <br /> It's like the inverse of what they allowed Kakashi to do with Kamui.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> A Nerf is something that was strong or too strong and had to be de-powered <b><i>After</i></b> it became apparent that it's an issue.<br /> <br /> Sasuke didn't have it to begin with. Madara and Naruto did.<br /> <br /> <br /> What did get nerfed was Sasuke's insanely stupid speed he had in early part 2.</b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><b><br /> <br /> Limitation... again i proved its a nerf with scans and facts and you still talking about Limitation. So you want to say that Nagato had more power then Madara using his own eyes ? I know exactly what nerf is and its what we are discussing about right now - is a nerf, not limitation <br /> <br /> @ bold Naruto was still moving fast in that episode when he was even flying - <br /> <br /> Only one here nerfed is Sasuke and his Rinnegan</b></div>

 

[Animegoin]

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Even in the vote 2 fight he only used CT to capture the tailed beast other then that im not a big fan of CT and that technique is pretty much useless against strong opponents since they can easily destroy the core with just one strong jutsu TBB for example.
Sasuke was nerfed ever since he got Rinnegan , same goes with Madara - if it wasnt really nerfed no one would even could fight them - and if you remember edo Nagato vs Naruto- even with all that power, Nagato was untouchable

No lie.

 

[Guntah]

The guy blitzed Kaguya. He ain't that nerfed.

BUT there are some versions of Naruto that are highly underrated. BSM Naruto for once never got the shine he deserved. If you really stop to think about it, that is all of his and Kurama's chakra fused with Senjutsu. The relative difference of power between BM Naruto and BSM Naruto should be the same as Base Naruto and SM Naruto, which is a MASSIVE difference.

 

[super michael]

That's a limitation. Understand what a nerf is, son.


Naruto was moving at speeds faster than anything seen in the series bar spacetime at KCM and Kurama Mode

Madara had a fuckton of abilities including broken concepts such as Limbo which are 1:1 shadows of Madara.

These two were lampshaded or outright nerfed.



Sasuke was limited because he would have been a problem. He didn't have the power to begin with. Naruto and Madara were given obscene power then had it nerfed or revoked. Look at out inconsistent Naruto/Obito/Madara are in the war arc.

It's like the inverse of what they allowed Kakashi to do with Kamui.




A Nerf is something that was strong or too strong and had to be de-powered After it became apparent that it's an issue.

Sasuke didn't have it to begin with. Madara and Naruto did.


What did get nerfed was Sasuke's insanely stupid speed he had in early part 2.

A nerf is also when a characters masters a power and that power is removed permanently, without ever getting it back.

Sasuke removal of CM and Gaara removal of his Bijuu are nerfs.

Naruto losing all his Bijuu would be a nerf, especially since he mastered his Bijuus powers.

 

[Styles]

Nice but you forgot Sasuke couldn’t absorb and attack at the same time and Sasuke lost CM without ever getting it back, even though Sasuke mastered it fully.

Sasuke doesn’t regain CM or try to learn Sage Mode.

Agreed. Kishi nerfed him and gave him limitations.

No.

Madara and Naruto.


Naruto in kcm was too fast. He was like Early part 2 Sasuke fast.

BM made him faster before quickly abandoning his speed.

Madara, you can right a paragraph about it.



How can you nerf someone with a poweup? Naruto and Madara has bullshit that was introduced then quickly ignored or lampshaded.

Sasuke has limitations, not nerfs.

KCM Naruto wasn't even faster than V2 Raikage wym he was too fast?

BM made him faster then he had no need to use shunshin once it got blocked by Madara and his Gunbai.

KCM he still showed that same speed if not faster speed so he was not nerfed.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Nothing but facts.

Dude Madara also didn't use all the paths, man the guy didn't even us his MS techs. We don't efen know what they are.

 

[Animegoin]

Dude Madara also didn't use all the paths, man the guy didn't even us his MS techs. We don't efen know what they are.

Exactly dude, if he had; he would’ve been unstoppable.