Naruto is nothing without Kurama? Ha, FAIL!

[Draphsin]

most of the charater get saved by their teammate or other character so your answer is funny

I never said that kurama wasnt a teammate, read my responses to his posts...He said that the "naruto has cheated with kurama" statement is wrong. Im merely proving it right..

if you are taking 1 from sauke, why taking 2 from naruto, that's not fair.

Im taking 1 powerup away from him, his uzumaki heritage. If he doesnt have it then he cant become a proper kyuubi jinchuuriki anyways so he loses out on kurama's chakra too.

may be he won't go berserk, but i doubt he will be able to hold it like naruto did, i mean if he goes through the same abuses naruto went through, he would easily get manipulated by kurama
another thing is not just any one can be a kuubi host, kushina was the finest among the well suited uzumaki to become a kuubi host

Again read the context of the argument. OP said that if their situations were switched then konoha would be destroyed because of him. Where on earth does he come up with such claims? He has no Idea how sasuke will act in naruto's situation & thats the point.

if you talking about pain tell me how sasuke defeats him

If deva path was useless & sasuke had the info on pein that naruto had then of course he can win, assuming that this is MS complete susanoo sasuke of course.

 

[Cosman]

This thread is about to go full-retard.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

even Orochifodder can beat Kyuubiless Naruto high diff
..kage level people like Itachi or Nagato would effortlessly rape him
only a fanboy would think otherwise

 

[Cosman]

even Orochifodder can beat Kyuubiless Naruto high diff
..kage level people like Itachi or Nagato would effortlessly rape him
only a fanboy would think otherwise

And there it is...

 

[King Of Crows]

even Orochifodder can beat Kyuubiless Naruto high diff
..kage level people like Itachi or Nagato would effortlessly rape him
only a fanboy would think otherwise

Take a core part of someone's power and off course they would be easy to beat. <(-.-<) What is your point ?
Itachi would be at a heavy disadvantage without his sharingan considering he is a genjutsu pro with it <(-.-<) I don't even need to mention what else he would lose


@Elite:

Sasuke does not have Orichimaru's seal anymore, Itachi made sure of that.

 

[naruttebayo]

I never said that kurama wasnt a teammate, read my responses to his posts...He said that the "naruto has cheated with kurama" statement is wrong. Im merely proving it right..

i heard him,
and he never cheated, if kisame has samehada, would you say he cheated because he had samehada
think of kurama just as weapon.
further mastering that weapon was not an easy thing,
kurama was sealed for the very purpose of making him capable enough to face the disaster

Im taking 1 powerup away from him, his uzumaki heritage. If he doesnt have it then he cant become a proper kyuubi jinchuuriki anyways so he loses out on kurama's chakra too.

yes you are taking 2 powerups, if you are taking naruto's heritage

Again read the context of the argument. OP said that if their situations were switched then konoha would be destroyed because of him. Where on earth does he come up with such claims? He has no Idea how sasuke will act in naruto's situation & thats the point.

i perfectly read the context and i can understand that what op did was a little fanboying. but such reply makes you a hater.
which is equally bad thing.

If deva path was useless & sasuke had the info on pein that naruto had then of course he can win, assuming that this is MS complete susanoo sasuke of course.

do you remeber he almost got killed against killer bee alone, remind you he didn't even used hachibi.
this happened around the same time as pein's invasion
so if your assumption that the fight will go this or that way is nothing but assumptions cuz i don't see him wining against those powerful puppet,

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

Sage Mode

/thread

 

[BlackFlame44]

I agree but it seems to me this is just sasuke spite thread

 

[naruttebayo]

even Orochifodder can beat Kyuubiless Naruto high diff
..kage level people like Itachi or Nagato would effortlessly rape him
only a fanboy would think otherwise

sage mode is no joke
nagato? may be
but itachi? i remember him getting saved by sasuke against kabuto who had sage mode.

 

[King Of Crows]

sage mode is no joke
nagato? may be
but itachi? i remember him getting saved by sasuke against kabuto who had sage mode.

Itachi saved Sasuke in that fight, as well. It was a team effort Also I believe that Kabuto's SM was better than Frog sage mode. His attacks were scary.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Read that it was a bashing thread... continued to read anyway.

Read "Borned and Choosed..." gave up hope.

OT/OP, nobody will take you seriously if all you ever do is put your favorite character on a pedestal while putting down another character. I know i don't. And that's ignoring some of the blatant bias and false information.

It didn't turn into a bashing thread until 3. It's a thread on how Sasukefans bashing on Naruto is inaccurate.

 

[blackstar9]

Read that it was a bashing thread... continued to read anyway.

Read "Borned and Choosed..." gave up hope.

OT/OP, nobody will take you seriously if all you ever do is put your favorite character on a pedestal while putting down another character. I know i don't. And that's ignoring some of the blatant bias and false information.

couldnt have said it better myself

 

[Draphsin]

i heard him,
and he never cheated, if kisame has samehada, would you say he cheated because he had samehada
think of kurama just as weapon.
further mastering that weapon was not an easy thing,
kurama was sealed for the very purpose of making him capable enough to face the disaster

Yes, kisame cheated death for a few moments longer. He used a means to further his life by using power that wasnt his own. When people save other peoples lives then that person is cheating death. Have you seen final destination? similar to that concept (however dont take this example too seriously, its meant to give you a comparison, nothing more).

yes you are taking 2 powerups, if you are taking naruto's heritage

Then by taking away the sharingan you take away EMS, thus removing 2 powerups from sasuke's arsenal. The both rely on their base forms of power (heritage) to continue their power scaling.

i perfectly read the context and i can understand that what op did was a little fanboying. but such reply makes you a hater.
which is equally bad thing.

Im not hating, im making sure that the OP doesnt make a thread like this again. Why can he go on to make these assumptions about sasuke but if i reply im a hater? If anything I'm hating on him & if that's what you meant then I see & okay ill tone it down U_U.

if you remeber he almost got killed against killer bee alone remind you he didn't even used hachibi
which was around the same time as pein's invasion
so if your assumption that the fight will go this or that way is nothing but assumptions cuz i don't see him wining against those powerful puppet,

That was a sasuke who was literally at his weakest point in part 2. He had no susanoo to susatain, im not talking about the timeframe here because that makes it unfair. Sasuke fought deidara, itachi & then went to capture bee without any form of training. Naruto was mastering SM & RS for god knows how long. Naruto got a training arc while sasuke had to fight his way through & all the while losing powerups & gaining new ones.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Naruto=Uzumaki blood which gives him chakra levels 100x greater than an average shinobi (in case you forgot)
Sasuke=Uchiha blood which gives him the sharingan

Naruto=Given kyuubi at birth.
-Was a burden until quite recently
Sasuke=Given EMS around the same time naruto's kyuubi became beneficial.

Naruto=Sage mode, impossible without his uzumaki chakra reserves
Sasuke=Curse mark, gone so it doesn't even matter anymore

They're both given a lot, and they are both great at using what they have. Stop being so butthurt, naruto and sasuke are equal in every way.

That's not what they're saying. They're saying that Sasuke's no better when it comes to borrowed power than Naruto.

 

[naruttebayo]

Yes, kisame cheated death for a few moments longer. He used a means to further his life by using power that wasnt his own. When people save other peoples lives then that person is cheating death. Have you seen final destination? similar to that concept (however dont take this example too seriously, its meant to give you a comparison, nothing more).

not gonna reply any more cuz you sure look to deny (@ bold u just proved it) and biased too, it will go round and round.

 

[Draphsin]

not gonna reply any more cuz you sure look to denial (@ bold u just proved it) and it will go round and round.

Cheat -

transitive verb
1: to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud

2: to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice

3: to elude or thwart by or as if by outwitting <cheat death>

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Kisame cheated death by using samehada, deny it if you want but its true....

 

[naruttebayo]

Itachi saved Sasuke in that fight, as well. It was a team effort Also I believe that Kabuto's SM was better than Frog sage mode. His attacks were scary.

could kabuto spam shadow clones ?

no

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

-Oro's seal.
-Itachi's eyes.

He likes to take (copy) skills from others, yes.

Let's be fair here it's not taking if you make it your own.Sasuke has created several jutsus based off of the ones he has learned.

 

[naruttebayo]

Cheat -

transitive verb
1: to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud

2: to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice

3: to elude or thwart by or as if by outwitting <cheat death>

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Kisame cheated death by using samehada, deny it if you want but its true....

actually you need to read the term fully fraud.
you only taking half of the meaning simply just to satisfy yourself that you are good debater but you are doing nothing but
denying and not listening to other
:bye:

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Back to the topic at hand:Naruto would've been just as strong if he did'nt have Kurama thanks to Sage Mode and the expanded list of jutsu he would have learned thanks to the fact his chakra would'nt be messed up by Kurama.He would still be top 10 except Naruto would be alot better in the jutsu department.