Naruto is not that good anymore

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Naruto is Not that Good Anymore [READ]

Here's a few points that I feel are ruining the show now:-

1. Animation in anime: This is a major issue, people watch anime for good fights and to enjoy the sensitive moments in the manga. If the bad animation and improper way of using their soundtrack drags on longer then I'm sure people will rage quit on the anime. If we can't even enjoy the battles then best stick to manga, right? At least we can use the proper OST in the background too. They have spoiled some really important fights because of the animation like Nagato and Itachi vs Naruto and Killer Bee.

2. Fillers' tendency to change the original story: I'm pretty sure that everyone has realized that fillers often tend to make many mistakes, not only that, they add some really weird stuff which just doesn't match with the whole setting. That is one of the main reasons why people just skip through fillers. Kakashi and gai vs the two swordsmen of the mist was just a fail. It had so many mistakes and was completely unrealistic in my point of view.
However, I suggest that if you have missed out on the 'Chikara' arc then you really need to watch it. The animation is SO much better, it's only once in a while that the animation team has worked so hard.

3. This point is just a personal point of view but I feel that the animation team can create better fight scenes than kishi. Have you noticed the openings? The fights there are pretty awesome! More action in them as well.
Kishi's fights aren't bad but they are extremely slow paced at times. I personally prefer that the anime fights should have a bit of "add ons" from the animation team too.

4. Difference in Power scales : Have you actually seen the way fodders are getting owned?
They are actually chounins and jounins, I highly doubt haku would've been able to take down chounins and jounins with such ease. The whole strength of the ninja alliance seems to be concentrated towards naruto's batchmates (ino, sakura, etc etc) for some unknown reason. It should be this way plot-wise but it still bothers me.
Another fact, how exactly were kakashi and Gai able to fight the tailed beasts? As far as I can remember it was 6vs2, they should've got owned in seconds.. Do correct me if I'm wrong about this point, I'm a bit unsure.



This is purely my opinion, feel free to write yours.
 
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yeah, Naruto at the beginning was probably the greatest anime ever.

Now its lacking. Its not bad. But its lacking goodness.

How are the K11 Jounin and Chuunin and still alive? They took on S-ranked ninja and lived.

Meanwhile other chuunin and jounin die from white zetsu
 

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Re: Naruto is Not that Good Anymore [READ]

I am not a fan of the animation quality either.It is handled by too many different art directors making the overall quality flaky.
The fillers for the naruto series have given filler arcs a bad stigma as well.

Filler arcs if done correctly can add more to the manga then there already was by exploring certain themes or characters that the author possibly does not have time for.It doesn't even have to be the authors original intention to have something appear in the anime because he couldn't spend time on it in the manga,but doing so expands on the story in a positive light anyway.The naruto fillers lack development for characters,Never expand on geography in a way that attributes to the manga or even matches the pacing or theme of the characters and lands already introduced.
 

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yeah, Naruto at the beginning was probably the greatest anime ever.

Now its lacking. Its not bad. But its lacking goodness.

How are the K11 Jounin and Chuunin and still alive? They took on S-ranked ninja and lived.

Meanwhile other chuunin and jounin die from white zetsu
I agree with you. There are seriously some weird things going on in the war man.
 

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Re: Naruto is Not that Good Anymore [READ]

I am not a fan of the animation quality either.It is handled by too many different art directors making the overall quality flaky.
The fillers for the naruto series have given filler arcs a bad stigma as well.

Filler arcs if done correctly can add more to the manga then there already was by exploring certain themes or characters that the author possibly does not have time for.It doesn't even have to be the authors original intention to have something appear in the anime because he couldn't spend time on it in the manga,but doing so expands on the story in a positive light anyway.The naruto fillers lack development for characters,Never expand on geography in a way that attributes to the manga or even matches the pacing or theme of the characters and lands already introduced.
Yup. Chikara was one of the few I actually loved watching, others were just crap
 

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Re: Naruto is Not that Good Anymore [READ]

Here's a few points that I feel are ruining the show now:-

1. Animation in anime: This is a major issue, people watch anime for good fights and to enjoy the sensitive moments in the manga. If the bad animation and improper way of using their soundtrack drags on longer then I'm sure people will rage quit on the anime. If we can't even enjoy the battles then best stick to manga, right? At least we can use the proper OST in the background too. They have spoiled some really important fights because of the animation like Nagato and Itachi vs Naruto and Killer Bee.

2. Fillers' tendency to change the original story: I'm pretty sure that everyone has realized that fillers often tend to make many mistakes, not only that, they add some really weird stuff which just doesn't match with the whole setting. That is one of the main reasons why people just skip through fillers. Kakashi and gai vs the two swordsmen of the mist was just a fail. It had so many mistakes and was completely unrealistic in my point of view.
However, I suggest that if you have missed out on the 'Chikara' arc then you really need to watch it. The animation is SO much better, it's only once in a while that the animation team has worked so hard.

3. This point is just a personal point of view but I feel that the animation team can create better fight scenes than kishi. Have you noticed the openings? The fights there are pretty awesome! More action in them as well.
Kishi's fights aren't bad but they are extremely slow paced at times. I personally prefer that the anime fights should have a bit of "add ons" from the animation team too.

4. Difference in Power scales : Have you actually seen the way fodders are getting owned?
They are actually chounins and jounins, I highly doubt haku would've been able to take down chounins and jounins with such ease. The whole strength of the ninja alliance seems to be concentrated towards naruto's batchmates (ino, sakura, etc etc) for some unknown reason. It should be this way plot-wise but it still bothers me.
Another fact, how exactly were kakashi and Gai able to fight the tailed beasts? As far as I can remember it was 6vs2, they should've got owned in seconds.. Do correct me if I'm wrong about this point, I'm a bit unsure.



This is purely my opinion, feel free to write yours.
Ok...
1. Try making your own detailed manga with a complex story line and character designs once a week with few breaks, plus voices, its hard, and not only that, you are getting it for free!
2. Fillers are not canon, and therefore not in the original story, and they never existed. Chikara was bull and it never happened.
3. I hope you realize that moving pictures are typically better than looking at 15-20 pictures of a fight in a week. If people wanted to read books all the time, the TV or the video would never have been invented.
4. Haku was very strong and could probably take 90% of the random fodders in the army. You realize the Konoha 11 is meant to be very strong, as they were all inspired by Naruto to become better and stronger? And, also, it only shows the Konoha 11 because they're all in the RELEVANT fights. Kakashi and Gai did very, very little in the fight against the bijuu, Naruto and Bee, who have the 2 strongest bijuu under their control, were doing all the work. Naruto himself was strong enough to take on 6 Bijuu Damas alone, thats why they owned in seconds, instead of being owned.
 

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Re: Naruto is Not that Good Anymore [READ]

Ok...
1. Try making your own detailed manga with a complex story line and character designs once a week with few breaks, plus voices, its hard, and not only that, you are getting it for free!
2. Fillers are not canon, and therefore not in the original story, and they never existed. Chikara was bull and it never happened.
3. I hope you realize that moving pictures are typically better than looking at 15-20 pictures of a fight in a week. If people wanted to read books all the time, the TV or the video would never have been invented.
4. Haku was very strong and could probably take 90% of the random fodders in the army. You realize the Konoha 11 is meant to be very strong, as they were all inspired by Naruto to become better and stronger? And, also, it only shows the Konoha 11 because they're all in the RELEVANT fights. Kakashi and Gai did very, very little in the fight against the bijuu, Naruto and Bee, who have the 2 strongest bijuu under their control, were doing all the work. Naruto himself was strong enough to take on 6 Bijuu Damas alone, thats why they owned in seconds, instead of being owned.
Canon or non canon, I don't care. Neither am I putting the blame solely on kishi or the animation team.
About the free thing, I don't remember mentioning that I watch it for free. Neither do I intend to tell you, because I believe everyone has the right to say what they want. About the animation, you say the anime is way better than 15 pictures. Just to help you understand, I'd rather read than watch an anime with horrible animation. They are not doing charity, everyone is money-minded, sir!
The better you realize that, the better. I highly doubt if they continue to function this way that people would continue to watch the anime.

Have you ever seen any other anime? They face the same problems, even more. Bleach, highschool of the dead, etc..Have way more problems than Naruto could ever have. Naruto gets a lot of money, a hell lot of money and still they don't care about the quality they give us.

Please re-read my points once more. It feels as though you just read the highlighted portions and skipped all the material.
 
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Agree with most of your points. The anime has lost its emotion and the fights and story has become overly streamlined and simplified. Also fodder shinobi are just ridiculously weak. It is amazing they are even allowed to fight considering how incompetent they are.
 

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Re: Naruto is Not that Good Anymore [READ]

Canon or non canon, I don't care. Neither am I putting the blame solely on kishi or the animation team.
About the free thing, I don't remember mentioning that I watch it for free. Neither do I intend to tell you, because I believe everyone has the right to say what they want. About the animation, you say the anime is way better than 15 pictures. Just to help you understand, I'd rather read than watch an anime with horrible animation. They are not doing charity, everyone is money-minded, sir!
The better you realize that, the better. I highly doubt if they continue to function this way that people would continue to watch the anime.

Have you ever seen any other anime? They face the same problems, even more. Bleach, highschool of the dead, etc..Have way more problems than Naruto could ever have. Naruto gets a lot of money, a @#!*% lot of money and still they don't care about the quality they give us.

Please re-read my points once more. It feels as though you just read the highlighted portions and skipped all the material.
It doesn't matter whether you do watch it for free, considering it is available to watch in MANY, MANY sites for free, an it is accessible when ever you want to watch! Considering that, you can't complain because you choose to pay for it. It's not my prerogative. I watch it for free.
Sure, everything is money-minded, but you get it for free! If you rather read than watch, again its your prerogative, it doesn't matter! Read it or watch it, its freaking Naruto!
Wouldn't the fact that other anime face many more problems make you feel happy that you are a Naruto fan? These other anime I'm sure make profits comparable to Naruto, and so the quality is obviously pretty high. Again, as you said, it is money-minded, and wouldn't low quality put people off the manga? There, you contradicted yourself. I read all of your points, but to be honest, it just sounds like you are a malcontent (I know it sounds offensive but please don't take offense to it, I don't know how to say it any other way). Very few other people are complaining about quality, and I'm sure you yourself can't do any better than that. If you really feel bothered, go read some other manga like One Piece, and don't go complaining to the many people who are happy with the quality of the anime and the manga.
 
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