Naruto is not skilled only Lucky ninja
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sasuke born uchiha,,,, when nearly blind got itachi's eye,,,
UchihaNagashi
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Yeah, but most of his arsenal (except Chidori) were received as a gift.
Naruto worked his ass off, we all know it.
Did you make this because a few people on your Itachi thread started talking about Naruto?
OT: Let's be fair, he did have to tame kurama in order to use it the way he does now, he did have to learn rasengan and he mastered Sage Mode perfectly, something even Jiraiya couldn't do. And he's shown some good observational skills as of late. You can't say he has no skill. And KCM makes him stronger, faster, and gives him more chakra, so clearly he's not on the same level as the pein arc.
But I assume your really trying to point out that Naruto's improvement, though it's there, isn't a great as some are making it out to be. Again, assuming that's what you're really trying to say, I do agree with that. He's not exactly miles ahead of where he was, but he has improved
But
OT: Let's be fair, he did have to tame kurama in order to use it the way he does now, he did have to learn rasengan and he mastered Sage Mode perfectly, something even Jiraiya couldn't do. And he's shown some good observational skills as of late. You can't say he has no skill. And KCM makes him stronger, faster, and gives him more chakra, so clearly he's not on the same level as the pein arc.
But I assume your really trying to point out that Naruto's improvement, though it's there, isn't a great as some are making it out to be. Again, assuming that's what you're really trying to say, I do agree with that. He's not exactly miles ahead of where he was, but he has improved
But
Okumura Rin
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Being born Uchiha helped with.. well the Sharingan, MS and EMS. Orochimaru is 70% of the reason that Sasuke who is as strong as he is now.
Such flawed logic.
ballerjordan
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Naruto had to train for Sage Mode, and still managed to master it. Even now he managed to take Sage Mode to the next level and almost enter it instantly.
Sasuke got a ready made Curse Mark from Oro.
Naruto had to fight the Kyuubi, and tame it to gain KCM.
Sasuke got a surgery for EMS.
Naruto had to prove himself to Kurama if he's worthy being his partner to gain Bijuu Mode.
There's plenty more.
Sasuke got a ready made Curse Mark from Oro.
Naruto had to fight the Kyuubi, and tame it to gain KCM.
Sasuke got a surgery for EMS.
Naruto had to prove himself to Kurama if he's worthy being his partner to gain Bijuu Mode.
There's plenty more.
UchihaNagashi
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Without the Kyuubi, he would've learned FTG and sealings. Even more sh*t then.
Sharingan came from Uchiha. Want me to change it?
+ No pills - no speed. No pills - no strength. No pills - no immunity for poison.
i agree there was no need to bring sasuke into this. + rep.
Okumura Rin
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He compared Naruto and Sasuke when he said who could and couldn't hurt Sasuke. That's why he is being compared.
has nothing to do with sasuke but let me make this clear
Naruto fought the kyuubi but his mom did 80-95% of the work by holding it down
kurama didnt want to die and the tailed beast help naruto understand kurama better which is why they became friends
Optimistic
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Kirikoe
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technically sasuke got where he is today all thanks to his sharingan...
if sasuke wasnt born uchiha.. orochimaru would never have wanted his body and would never have bothered going through the trouble of training him...
if sasuke wasnt uchiha he would of never been taught chidori since it needs sharingan to be complete
no sharingan obviously would mean no cm since orochimaru wouldnt need sasuke
no sharingan means no ems and everything
so ye... i would say sasuke is a lot luckier than naruto is...
UchihaNagashi
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Maybe because he was mentioned in the OP. No would even compare them otherwise.
Why are you trying to start something?
You are arguing that Naruto is just lucky to be a Jinchuriki and an Uzumaki. However, using the same logic, Sasuke is lucky that he is an Uchiha. Most ninja families in the series have some sort of special skills. Ino, Choji, Shikamaru, Konohamaru, Tsunade, Neji, Hinata, etc. all have special bloodlines that provide them with secret techniques and unique abilities.
Naruto still has had to work extremely hard to achieve everything that he has. Naruto has surpassed Kakashi, Minato, and Jiraiya in terms of certain traits and abilities. He not only can do the Rasengan and Sage Mode, but has been able to enhance the versions that his predecessors developed beyond their original levels.
You are arguing that Naruto is just lucky to be a Jinchuriki and an Uzumaki. However, using the same logic, Sasuke is lucky that he is an Uchiha. Most ninja families in the series have some sort of special skills. Ino, Choji, Shikamaru, Konohamaru, Tsunade, Neji, Hinata, etc. all have special bloodlines that provide them with secret techniques and unique abilities.
Naruto still has had to work extremely hard to achieve everything that he has. Naruto has surpassed Kakashi, Minato, and Jiraiya in terms of certain traits and abilities. He not only can do the Rasengan and Sage Mode, but has been able to enhance the versions that his predecessors developed beyond their original levels.
