Naruto is Lance Armstrong!

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Naruto is Lance Armstrong!

Let that statement sink in for a few seconds.

Naruto went around the whole part 1 and almost the whole part 2(until Lord Itachi talk-no-Jutsu-ed him about teamwork) talking about "hard work pay off", "Never give up", and "I would never resort to such way" to people who gotta get their hands bloody to achieve their goals.

The problem here is that 95% of Naruto's fights that he had won is due to Kurama when shit is hopeless for Naruto. Yes Naruto was born with Kurama inside of him. So can't fault him for using Kurama. But the thing is you can't go around giving out false hope to people who don't have a second source of chakra in them like Naruto.

This is why Naruto is Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong(Naruto) promoted false hope to a lot of people with his "never give up! Just do it" and his overcome of health issues. Lance Armstrong was using drug(Kurama) to win all his races.

Sasuke, Madara, Kabuto or whoever y'all Naruto fans want to bring up...Those characters don't be going around giving people "false hope" or telling them to "Never give up". They are aware of how strong they are or what they do to get to where they are. They don't claim to be "white hat" like Naruto!
 

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Why train when you can steal eyes and get granted power?

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^^^ guess that's lord sauce being a "white hat"
 

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I dont remember Naruto participating in Tour de France but then again, im not one for watching fillers
 

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Why train when you can steal eyes and get granted power?

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^^^ guess that's lord sauce being a "white hat"

Failed. How are you suppose to fight with them blessing eyes if you don't have the body to keep up with them? That lesson was taught in Part one countless time! Sasuke have work hard phyically for his body to keep up with them blessing eyes.
 

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They get butthurt and bite
 

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I see. That is very true in a sense.
 

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Failed. How are you suppose to fight with them blessing eyes if you don't have the body to keep up with them? That lesson was taught in Part one countless time! Sasuke have work hard phyically for his body to keep up with them blessing eyes.

being an uchiha negates that concept...kishimoto applied that to non uchiha (kakashi) and non-original eye owners (obito)
 

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Naruto never used the Kurama's power he just lost control of it. And by the way I would like to know who the hell needs drugs to be successful in something? Sheer hardwork can equal a talented person.
 

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being an uchiha negates that concept...kishimoto applied that to non uchiha (kakashi) and non-original eye owners (obito)

Wrong... Rock lee defeated Sasuke and called him out on it. Kakashi had to train Sasuke's body first before teaching him chidori. You can't just pop in some eyes and start moving fast and fight at a level beyond an average shinobi without any phyical training. Stop trying to downplay the Uchiha clan. Madara used to practice taijutsu everyday with his brother. That is how you know they worked hard beside having blessing eyes.
 

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I remember after he fought neji and said destiny is bullcrap all the while being a child of prohecy?? Likelol what??
 

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Wrong... Rock lee defeated Sasuke and called him out on it. Kakashi had to train Sasuke's body first before teaching him chidori. You can't just pop in some eyes and start moving fast and fight at a level beyond an average shinobi. Stop trying to downplay the Uchiha clan. Madara used to practice taijutsu everyday with his brother. That is how you know they worked hard beside having blessing eyes.

but that's not what I was referring to...I was referring to using eyes in general...sasuke did not have to train to use itachi's eyes...how about stop trying to downplay naruto?...cause I'm not downplaying anything you moron...if you call out naruto for being a white hat then call out sasuke too...in fact call out everyone
 

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Is their anything wrong on depending someone
And i don't think so if sasuke or any other person has nine tail power they can achieve what naruto has and also
Like naruto try to master the nine tail in the similar way sasuke try to master sharigan, the problem is that kurama is a living thing so people say naruto depends on it while sharigan is nonliving
 

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I remember after he fought neji and said destiny is bullcrap all the while being a child of prohecy?? Likelol what??

1. naruto had no ideas about prophecies so what's your point?

2. neji predicted that naruto would be an utter failure and he was wrong...so what neji says does not matter
 

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but that's not what I was referring to...I was referring to using eyes in general...sasuke did not have to train to use itachi's eyes

how about stop trying to downplay naruto?...cause I'm not downplaying anything you moron...if you call out naruto for being a white hat then call out sasuke too...in fact call out everyone

What there is to train with itachi's eyes? He already had his body trained for it. All Itachi's eyes did was restore lights in his eyes and reduce the stress on his body.

Is their anything wrong on depending someone
And i don't think so if sasuke or any other person has nine tail power they can achieve what naruto has and also
Like naruto try to master the nine tail in the similar way sasuke try to master sharigan, the problem is that kurama is a living thing so people say naruto depends on it while sharigan is nonliving

The problem is that Naruto is calling other characters out on their way to achieve their goals when it is very clear that Naruto can achieve his goals in his own way because he got Kurama to back him up on it. What did hanzo, danzo, 2nd hokage, orc, Madara had to back them up on achieving their goals? they didn't have a "kurama". So they had to get their hands bloody to achieve their goals.

It is very simple. If Naruto wasn't preaching false hope to people, he would be a perfect character.
 
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but that's not what I was referring to...I was referring to using eyes in general...sasuke did not have to train to use itachi's eyes...how about stop trying to downplay naruto?...cause I'm not downplaying anything you moron...if you call out naruto for being a white hat then call out sasuke too...in fact call out everyone

I remember sasuke using the white zetsu as training dummys when he got itachi eyes.
 

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I remember sasuke using the white zetsu as training dummys when he got itachi eyes.

are you serious?...that's akin to naruto using them as training dummies to test out his chakra mode
 

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1. naruto had no ideas about prophecies so what's your point?

2. neji predicted that naruto would be an utter failure and he was wrong...so what neji says does not matter

Neji was right all along. People who are destined to become the strongest do and those who dont are losers. Whats your point?
 

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What there is to train with itachi's eyes? He already had his body trained for it. All Itachi's eyes did was restore lights in his eyes and reduce the stress on his body.



The problem is that Naruto is calling other characters out on their way to achieve their goals when it is very clear that Naruto can achieve his goals in his own way because he got Kurama to back him up on it. What did hanzo, danzo, 2nd hokage, orc, Madara had to back them up on achieving their goals? they didn't have a "kurama". So they had to get their hands bloody to achieve their goals.

It is very simple. If Naruto wasn't preaching false hope to people, he would be a perfect character.

which proves my point...also sasuke preached false hope to not only naruto but boruto as well...where is the "sasuke is lance armstrong as well" thread? oh that's right :sdo:
 

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Neji was right all along. People who are destined to become the strongest do and those who dont are losers. Whats your point?

neji was wrong all along...his first fail was calling naruto a loser...his 2nd fail was realising that destiny does not exist or choices are irrelevant...I'm pretty sure neji did not consider the fact that becoming hokage is a choice
 
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