Naruto is Godly...Boruto Next Gen?

[Magnolius]

He looks like a try hard and will be Nagato's level at best

Nagato's level cannot seal (or kill) an Adult Naruto (and possibly Sasuke). I say War Arc Edo Madara level.​

 

[chaos control]

You will look like a clown once we figure out Kawaki had little to do with the killing of Naruto or Sasuke.

I never said in a confirmatory manner that Kawaki killed Naruto or Sasuke. I just said he might be stronger. Therefore, no I won't look like a clown.

>Calls quoted posts "baseless assumptions"
>Makes a baseless assumption
Yeah, no.

I didn't make any assumptions. It would be an assumption if I said in a confirming way that Kawaki definitely killed Naruto, but I didn't say that. I said Kawaki may be stronger than Naruto. That is not assuming.

An assumption is you people's determined belief that Kawaki can't surpass Naruto or that he is Nagato level at best.

 

[chaos control]

the new manga must be happening in a Chemistry/Physics lab

It doesn't have to be in a lab. This only requires some knowledge and some training. Like I said, one of the hypothetical jutsus I mentioned only requires lightning release and chakara control.

Does that sound so hard to you?

 

[SenseiSama]

Nagato's level cannot seal (or kill) an Adult Naruto (and possibly Sasuke). I say War Arc Edo Madara level.​

Except Kawaki never said he killed Naruto, and Edo Madara is still below Naruto's level. And Boruto can never on the level of a transmigrant unless he's one himself. Him and Kawaki are below EMS and BSM at best.

 

[chaos control]

Except Kawaki never said he killed Naruto, and Edo Madara is still below Naruto's level. And Boruto can never on the level of a transmigrant unless he's one himself. Him and Kawaki are below EMS and BSM at best.

You don't have to be a transmigrant to beat a transmigrant. That is just limited thinking.

 

[Magnolius]

Except Kawaki never said he killed Naruto, and Edo Madara is still below Naruto's level. And Boruto can never on the level of a transmigrant unless he's one himself. Him and Kawaki are below EMS and BSM at best.

I put "kill" in parenthesis as a second option because we don' know whether he sealed or killed him. Sealing someone as powerful a Adult Naruto and Sasuke is a feat not achievable by someone of Nagato's level. I still say that he is at War Arc Edo Madara's level, with EMS not Rinnegan.

 

[NextGenNinja]

I never said in a confirmatory manner that Kawaki killed Naruto or Sasuke. I just said he might be stronger. Therefore, no I won't look like a clown.



I didn't make any assumptions. It would be an assumption if I said in a confirming way that Kawaki definitely killed Naruto, but I didn't say that. I said Kawaki may be stronger than Naruto. That is not assuming.

An assumption is you people's determined belief that Kawaki can't surpass Naruto or that he is Nagato level at best.

The only things it'd be believable that this guy killed naruto would be if he was an otsutsuki(which seems he isn't based on his appearance). or if he's some kind of naruto-sasuke clone created from oro, maybe that's acceptable. If kawaki really is just some random guy who somehow has the power to kill a demigod tier character in battle, then that's straight up BS. No amount of explanation from you or anyone else will justify that potential Asspull.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I never said in a confirmatory manner that Kawaki killed Naruto or Sasuke. I just said he might be stronger. Therefore, no I won't look like a clown.

And your "might" assumption holds no meaning besides overhyping a scene that looks obvious to the eye.

 

[chaos control]

The only things it'd be believable that this guy killed naruto would be if he was an otsutsuki(which seems he isn't based on his appearance). or if he's some kind of naruto-sasuke clone created from oro, maybe that's acceptable. If kawaki really is just some random guy who somehow has the power to kill a demigod tier character in battle, then that's straight up BS. No amount of explanation from you or anyone else will justify that potential Asspull.

It is not a butt pull if Kawaki's jutsus are explained and they make sense, and we get a proper explanation on how he obtained them.

And your "might" assumption holds no meaning besides overhyping a scene that looks obvious to the eye.

The word "might" doesn't assume. Meanwhile, saying "Kawaki is fodder" before seeing Kawaki do anything does assume.

It is basically the same concept of this analogy:

*Crowd sees a new basketball player enter the NBA. Crowd has never seen the new player play.*

You people: "This new guy won't win a ring"
Me: "This guy may or may not win a ring"

That is basically how this situation is going with the Kawaki debate.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

The word "might" doesn't assume. Meanwhile, saying "Kawaki is fodder" before seeing Kawaki do anything does assume.

It is basically the same concept of this analogy:

*Crowd sees a new basketball player enter the NBA. Crowd has never seen the new player play.*

You people: "This new guy won't win a ring"
Me: "This guy may or may not win a ring"

That is basically how this situation is going with the Kawaki debate.

He is fodder till proven not fodder. He has zero feats besides looking like a pimp.

Well not all of us are sold on this new fanfiction character known as Kawaki. Who was made out of the blue, wasn't even involved with the original series. People will obviously dislike him for being that character who bought along with him shitty art. Maybe acceptance is the key here for the lovers and haters. This is not Kishi, this is someone else.

 

[SenseiSama]

You don't have to be a transmigrant to beat a transmigrant. That is just limited thinking.

It's not limited thinking if you ever read the manga, no shinobi has ever reached Hashirama and Madara's level apart from Sasuke and Naruto whom are both transmigrants.

Why do you think Hashi was known as 'god of shinobi' ? No one was ever able to fight on his level apart from Madara and you saw how Madara solo'd the SA and 5 Kages with no difficulty.

I put "kill" in parenthesis as a second option because we don' know whether he sealed or killed him. Sealing someone as powerful a Adult Naruto and Sasuke is a feat not achievable by someone of Nagato's level. I still say that he is at War Arc Edo Madara's level, with EMS not Rinnegan.

Technically you don't need power to seal, and he said "send you to the same place as the 7th" which means Naruto wasn't sealed but probably in another dimension.

And Kawaki most likely didn't fight Naruto, he probably pulled a b**ch move and sent him away when he was busy working in the office or sleeping at home.

Furthermore, Kawaki won't have EMS and can't have it because he's not an Uchiha and doesn't have a sibling to give him a pair of eyes.

If he had EMS that would mean Boruto has equal power to Hashirama and BSM Naruto which I said before is impossible because he's not a transmigrant.

 

[Magnolius]

Technically you don't need power to seal, and he said "send you to the same place as the 7th" which means Naruto wasn't sealed but probably in another dimension.

But to have the ability and skill to carry out and perform a seal against Top Tier characters like Naruto and Sasuke would require someone at least at EMS Edo Madara's level. I never said you need power, but there is so much to consider. The power to incapacitate Naruto and/or Sasuke so that you can seal them. The knowledge to seal such a large reservoir of chakra. Sealing them, or even "sending them away to a different dimension" isn't exactly as easy a task if you're trying it on Adult Naruto and Sasuke. Unless it were a type of dimension warping like Kaguya's, in which case Boruto wouldn't even be standing before Kawaki. Boruto wouldn't be able to stand a chance against a dimension warping power as strong as possibly vast and strong as Kaguya's. Adult Naruto and Sasuke > Kamui, so if they were sent to another dimension then it would have to be something stronger than even Kamui. Which is why I say sealing. Maybe it was a careful and elaborate scheme and he got them while they were sleep or something, but we have yet to find out.

And Kawaki most likely didn't fight Naruto, he probably pulled a b**ch move and sent him away when he was busy working in the office or sleeping at home.

We don't know that yet. Which is why we're debating as we are now. Because of lack of detail, the "spoiler" they gave us is vulnerable to theorizing and predicting.

Furthermore, Kawaki won't have EMS and can't have it because he's not an Uchiha and doesn't have a sibling to give him a pair of eyes.

I said that he was on EMS Edo Madara's level, not that he literally had EMS. That means in regards to skillset, he should be on par with EMS Edo Madara, if not slightly below or above.

If he had EMS that would mean Boruto has equal power to Hashirama and BSM Naruto which I said before is impossible because he's not a transmigrant.

Wouldn't be surprised if Boruto actually is equal in power to Hashirama, considering Kishimoto isn't writing this. They are throwing in a lot of bullshit, and there is more to come.

 

[chaos control]

He is fodder till proven not fodder. He has zero feats besides looking like a pimp.

Well not all of us are sold on this new fanfiction character known as Kawaki. Who was made out of the blue, wasn't even involved with the original series. People will obviously dislike him for being that character who bought along with him shitty art. Maybe acceptance is the key here for the lovers and haters. This is not Kishi, this is someone else.

Your first sentence is your flaw. It should really be , he's neither strong nor fodder until proven strong or fodder. However , this base seems to love the negative and love to bash , and love to provide a miniature example of how some atrocities in the real world happen.

Also , Kawaki didn't bring the art with him. We were given panels and glimpses of this art even before Kawaki was introduced.
Peopls are so pathetic with their worship of Kishi. Not Kishi = automatic dislike huh? I wonder if these people are only satisfied if Kishi comes to their house and blows their noses for them, or wipes their butts for them. This must be the case because anything not done by Kishi must automatically be bad in these people's minds. I guess they can't wipe their own buttocks because if they do , then their newly cleaned buttocks is fanfic. They can only legitimately clean their buttocks if Kishi cleans it.
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These Kishi worshippers disgust me.

 

[chaos control]

It's not limited thinking if you ever read the manga, no shinobi has ever reached Hashirama and Madara's level apart from Sasuke and Naruto whom are both transmigrants.

Why do you think Hashirama was known as 'god of shinobi' ? No one was ever able to fight on his level apart from Madara and you saw how Madara solo'd the SA and 5 Kages with no difficulty.

The reason nobody other than Naruto and Sasuke (and Obito) reached Hashirama and Madara's level is not because of transmigration. It is because most of those fodder shinobi are just simply stupid in a way. Notice that just about every fodder in the series has just about no other techniques besides their clan's or their village's techniques. For example, does Shino ever use anything other than bug techniques? Does Kiba ever use anything other than Inuzuka dog techniques (and no the one shadow clone doesn't count since even then it still just led to a dog technique)? Have you ever seen a Hyuuga use any non - gentle fist related technique or any non-Hyuuga technique?

No! No! And no!

Did you notice that the whole freaking cloud village had laser circuis during the war? What about the fact that just about every Sand shinobi seems to either be a fan user or a puppet user (effectively making them fodder clones of Temari and Kankurou who are already fodder enough as it is)? What about Kirigakure? The only notable shinobi from there are Zabuza , Haku , Kisame , a few Mizukages , a couple of jinchuuriki, Suigetsu , kekkei genkai shinobi and swordsmen of the mist.

Do you see the point I am getting at? Fodders are fodder because they don't get off their lazy butts and go learn some new techniques. They generally just stick to one technique. Notice that the major strong characters actually have diverse and powerful skills? Meanwhile fodders just stick to one average jutsu.

Do you see what I mean? If Ikemoto makes Kawaki use his brain and be different from this , then Kawaki can break this trend and become very strong.

Also , you speak as if there is a set transmigrant power level , but there is not. Being a transmigrant doesn't guarantee that you will be strong , and a transmigrant can be beaten at any given moment. For example , Itachi , Haku , Bee , Orochimaru and Toneri (before tenseigan fully awakened) have all put Naruto and or Sasuke down at various times throughout the series (and those two are transmigrants). This alone proves that being a transmigrant doesn't guarantee victory in battle. Plus , there have been many fodder transmigrants. Naruto/Sasuke and Hashirama/Madara are just the two most recent pairs of transmigrants. They were not the only ones. Hagoromo implied that Indra and Asura reincarnated many times throughout history. Yet none of these other transmigrants were ever named or spoken of in reverence by anyone in the entire manga. Like Hashirama's kids , it is pretty much implied that these transmigrants were nothing special.

 

[King Of Pop]

so much assumptions in one thread. we hardly even know what occurred and some of you are already jumping to conclusions

 

[lndra]

Kawaki looks like a street punk imo. I don't think he killed Noodles tbh.

 

[Yata Mirror]

It doesn't have to be in a lab. This only requires some knowledge and some training. Like I said, one of the hypothetical jutsus I mentioned only requires lightning release and chakara control.

Does that sound so hard to you?

I see you did not get that I was making a joke but no matter let's see what you're saying..

You're saying Kawaki may possess Senjutsu and hence might be able to create quantum vacuum fluctuations..
That's certainly interesting, but you failed to take into account the fact that, the pinnacle of SM has been shown to be RSM and there's no means by which a RSM user can have relativistic destructive force to create fluctuations in a quantum vacuum.. so no

But then let's assume somehow he managed to do that, now what? he can interfere with Naruto's brain waves and render him brain dead?? that's very convenient but that's not how relativistic physics work; if he creates quantum vacuum fluctuations, there's going to be a whole lot of uncertainty, remember the uncertainty principle??
so even Kawaki is at risk so he wouldn't try anything like that even if he could.

Also about the CO2 point, I've never heard of lightning breaking down carbon dioxide, might be possible but Idk so assuming it can, what next?
how does Kawaki create a chemical reaction to produce CO..

your points are good but unrealistic in the Naruto World
sorry I'm replying late, I was at work

 

[chaos control]

I see you did not get that I was making a joke but no matter let's see what you're saying..

You're saying Kawaki may possess Senjutsu and hence might be able to create quantum vacuum fluctuations..
That's certainly interesting, but you failed to take into account the fact that, the pinnacle of SM has been shown to be RSM and there's no means by which a RSM user can have relativistic destructive force to create fluctuations in a quantum vacuum.. so no

But then let's assume somehow he managed to do that, now what? he can interfere with Naruto's brain waves and render him brain dead?? that's very convenient but that's not how relativistic physics work; if he creates quantum vacuum fluctuations, there's going to be a whole lot of uncertainty, remember the uncertainty principle??
so even Kawaki is at risk so he wouldn't try anything like that even if he could.

Also about the CO2 point, I've never heard of lightning breaking down carbon dioxide, might be possible but Idk so assuming it can, what next?
how does Kawaki create a chemical reaction to produce CO..

your points are good but unrealistic in the Naruto World
sorry I'm replying late, I was at work

It's nice to see a fellow person into science here. Anyway, I realize that not all of what I said is 100% accurate to how the science really works in real life. I made those suggestions with the assumption that some elements of fiction could take care of some stuff (ie. Instead of requiring intense relativistic force to generate the quantum fluctuations, the senjutsu chakara itself could just manipulate the vaccum energy within the quantum vaccum , kind of like how Kabuto was able to use senjutsu to manipulate the land or how puppet users can just simply control their puppets with chakara. As for the CO , since the oxygen atoms in a CO2 molecule are covalently bonded to the carbon atom , Kawaki could use raiton to manipulate some valence electrons and break one of the bonds between the carbon atom and one of the oxygen atoms. Since the molecule would lose an oxygen, the CO2 would become a CO.)

Now I know this isn't all perfect in explanation. I'm a computer science major. Please just bear with me.

Also , we can't say for sure that an RSM user couldn't use this level of chakara control to do stuff like this. We've never seen an RSM user try anything like this , and Kaguya was said to be able to create and destroy dimensions. If dimension creation/destruction is possible , then I'm sure some of my ideas could be feasible with a little sprinkle of fiction.

Over all you get point right? Also surely this would be more interesting than seeing him use normal rehashed fodder jutsus like your plain old fireball jutsu right?

My point is not to turn Naruto into your local college textbook. I'm just saying that people see a few powerful characters like Naruto and then treat them like unsurpassable gods. I'm just saying that any character can be surpassed if the author gets creative with techniques.

 

[Yata Mirror]

It's nice to see a fellow person into science here. Anyway, I realize that not all of what I said is 100% accurate to how the science really works in real life. I made those suggestions with the assumption that some elements of fiction could take care of some stuff (ie. Instead of requiring intense relativistic force to generate the quantum fluctuations, the senjutsu chakara itself could just manipulate the vaccum energy within the quantum vaccum , kind of like how Kabuto was able to use senjutsu to manipulate the land or how puppet users can just simply control their puppets with chakara. As for the CO , since the oxygen atoms in a CO2 molecule are covalently bonded to the carbon atom , Kawaki could use raiton to manipulate some valence electrons and break one of the bonds between the carbon atom and one of the oxygen atoms. Since the molecule would lose an oxygen, the CO2 would become a CO.)

Now I know this isn't all perfect in explanation. I'm a computer science major. Please just bear with me.

Also , we can't say for sure that an RSM user couldn't use this level of chakara control to do stuff like this. We've never seen an RSM user try anything like this , and Kaguya was said to be able to create and destroy dimensions. If dimension creation/destruction is possible , then I'm sure some of my ideas could be feasible with a little sprinkle of fiction.

Over all you get point right? Also surely this would be more interesting than seeing him use normal rehashed fodder jutsus like your plain old fireball jutsu right?

My point is not to turn Naruto into your local college textbook. I'm just saying that people see a few powerful characters like Naruto and then treat them like unsurpassable gods. I'm just saying that any character can be surpassed if the author gets creative with techniques.

now I understand, it will certainly be interesting if the new mangaka explores that possibility.. I'd be very hyped to see that..
I guess we can only hope we get something along those lines..

It was nice talking with you.. enjoy your day