Naruto Is Extremely powerful

[Netflix and Chill]

Except for the fact that she did not have the seal Naruto did, which allowed him unparalleled access to Kurama's chakra.

Naruto's seal was unique, which is why he has been the only one in the manga thus far who could leech so much chakra from him.



Bold right here is the dumbest ****ing argument a person can make.

Hand Sasuke a pair of glasses and Naruto a full Gundam suit, and tell me not only that they're equal, but also that Naruto is worse off because he doesn't need a Gundam suit while Sasuke needs glasses?

****ing garbage argument.

You wanna tell me that a kid with crutches who can beat full on steroids Mike Tyson had a bigger advantage because he couldn't walk? Wanna tell me a scuba diver with an oxygen tank taking on the Kraken has an unfair advantage because he can't breath underwater?

Shall we count the number of times Naruto has gained a powerup and kept it, while Sasuke has lost one? Shall we count the number of times Naruto's powerups could meld together and followed within the same vein of abilities, while Sasuke's came from a vastly different realm of power? No, I know, let's count the number of times Naruto has received a powerup that vastly outclassed Sasuke's, then we can remember that Naruto still tied after having every advantage in the manga.

Lol i hit a nerve i see :flakez:

No need to get flustered, everything I've started is true. You could try to downplay the Sharingan like they're just "fancy contacts" or "glases" all you want, all it does is highlight your bias because we all know what the Sharingan/rinnegan is capable of. Naruto has received 3 powerups throughout the series, 1/2 Kurama (sealed in him at birth), Sm (which he worked for) and Hagoromo's chakra (RSM), when did any of these powerups vastly surpass Sasuke's when they were portrayed as equals through the manga? The only time i could think of is when zetsu said that Sm Naruto may be stronger than MS Sasuke but even then like i said before, Naruto earned Sm through his own merits. Sasuke had the curse mark (given by oro) MS (went blind because he depended on them too much) EMS (took Itachi's eyes because he needed them) rinnegan (byproduct of receiving Hagooromo's chakra). Looks to me like Sasuke had some pretty hax handouts, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I've never had an issue with Naruto using Kurama as a vast power source because as you stated. He earned it. The problem i have is people think Naruto solos when infact Kurama and him work together with Kurama taking charge at times
Ofcourse people will disagree which is why Ill show Kishi's Manga

So tell me who did Sasuke solo?

 

[Retsu]

Except for the fact that she did not have the seal Naruto did, which allowed him unparalleled access to Kurama's chakra.

Naruto's seal was unique, which is why he has been the only one in the manga thus far who could leech so much chakra from him.



Bold right here is the dumbest ****ing argument a person can make.

Hand Sasuke a pair of glasses and Naruto a full Gundam suit, and tell me not only that they're equal, but also that Naruto is worse off because he doesn't need a Gundam suit while Sasuke needs glasses?

****ing garbage argument.

You wanna tell me that a kid with crutches who can beat full on steroids Mike Tyson had a bigger advantage because he couldn't walk? Wanna tell me a scuba diver with an oxygen tank taking on the Kraken has an unfair advantage because he can't breath underwater?

Shall we count the number of times Naruto has gained a powerup and kept it, while Sasuke has lost one? Shall we count the number of times Naruto's powerups could meld together and followed within the same vein of abilities, while Sasuke's came from a vastly different realm of power? No, I know, let's count the number of times Naruto has received a powerup that vastly outclassed Sasuke's, then we can remember that Naruto still tied after having every advantage in the manga.

No it's much more than that, Any jinchuuriki can access 100% of their Bijuu's power once they cooperate with it. Kbee proves that. Naruto is a special case.

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[rinnegan human puppet]

infinite tsukuyomi one shots naruto and kurama in one sweep.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Yup. Exactly.

Anyone with a brain should be able to realize that what is essentially a fancy pair of contacts is far less of a benefit than an immortal chakra monster with thousands of years of experience, the ability to break nearly any genjutsu instantly, near limitless chakra, the greatest healing factor in the manga, the ability to gather up miles of senjutsu, and the power to power up attacks, all independent of his Jinchuriki's will or even knowledge.

Compared to that, new eyesight might as well be nothing at all. Only a total ****ing idiot would disagree with that.

are you aware that sasuke's new eyesight have the power to control that immortal chakra monster?...stop downplaying boy

 

[Hagoromo sennin]

It's really not at crazy as you think. You have to remember that naruto had gained biju chakra since chapter 570 and retained that chakra all the way till the kaguya fight which was around chapter 690. He's been fighting Tobi/Obito, jyubi, juubito, jj madara, and kaguya with that chakra he was given during the biju meeting which he freed them from the edo bodies.

So it's not a tiny bit, it's a lot of chakra plus the addition senjutsu chakra he was using in his sagemode. Even when he was extracted from the gedo mazou he was still able to retain 2-7 tails chakra in his body before Obito put in Yin kurama, shukaku, and hachibi into his body.
Those biju chakra made a huge difference and all 8 of them together with the senjutsu he was gathering could very might as well be greater than just Yang kurama alone.

how about adding the other half of kurama into the mix?

 

[Hagoromo sennin]

I've never had an issue with Naruto using Kurama as a vast power source because as you stated. He earned it. The problem i have is people think Naruto solos when infact Kurama and him work together with Kurama taking charge at times

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Ofcourse people will disagree which is why Ill show Kishi's Manga

sorry,who did sasuke solo?

 

[Genocide]

Really,i was going through part one Naruto and Shipuuden all over again.Then i noticed one important fact.
Naruto was able to become this powerful with only half Kurama,and be able to absorb outstanding amounts of NE
With the incessant bickering between y'all,you all decided to neglect that one fact.
What if Naruto had the full Kurama?
He was able to achieve outstanding feats,stalement wounded Juubi Jin Madara,Held his own against Kaguya for sometime,and fought Sasuke to a draw(Even though it was'nt with intent to kill).I believe he'd be capable of more if he had Full kurama.and the balance between him and sasuke will be severed.nowonder kishi gave him half of Kurama.because He knew this.

he has full kurama now

 

[The Necromancer]

are you aware that sasuke's new eyesight have the power to control that immortal chakra monster?...stop downplaying boy

MS already granted him that ability.

EMS has no proven benefit to the user other than restored eyesight.

Lol i hit a nerve i see :flakez:

No need to get flustered, everything I've started is true. You could try to downplay the Sharingan like they're just "fancy contacts" or "glases" all you want, all it does is highlight your bias because we all know what the Sharingan/rinnegan is capable of. Naruto has received 3 powerups throughout the series, 1/2 Kurama (sealed in him at birth), Sm (which he worked for) and Hagoromo's chakra (RSM), when did any of these powerups vastly surpass Sasuke's when they were portrayed as equals through the manga? The only time i could think of is when zetsu said that Sm Naruto may be stronger than MS Sasuke but even then like i said before, Naruto earned Sm through his own merits. Sasuke had the curse mark (given by oro) MS (went blind because he depended on them too much) EMS (took Itachi's eyes because he needed them) rinnegan (byproduct of receiving Hagooromo's chakra). Looks to me like Sasuke had some pretty hax handouts, wouldn't you agree?

You entirely missed the whole point of my response.

Nowhere did I downplay the Sharingan. Nowhere did I downplay the Rinnegan. I stated that EMS has no proven benefits other than restored eyesight. That is a fact.

Let's take a look through unbiased eyes.

Spoiler

Sasuke's External Powerups:

-Curse Mark: Lost forever.
-Orochimaru Abilities: Lost forever.
-EMS: No proven benefit other than restored eyesight.
-Rinnegan: Unmastered, with a single ability unlike any he has had previously, and a learning curve.

Sasuke's Inherent Powerups:
-Increased Chakra Potency: Uchiha trait.
-3T Sharingan: A given. He was born with it.
-Precognition*: Allows him to see briefly the moves that will come.
-Jutsu Recreation: Only used to copy Lee's speed so far.
-Genjutsu abilities*: Require training.
-MS: Fought for and earned through hardship in battle. Lost forever, replaced by EMS, which is for all intents and purposes, the exact same thing.

Naruto's External Powerups:

-The Kyuubi: So many benefits that they need to be listed as separate abilities (but don't worry, I'm counting them as one, just to give you every single handicap you can get, to prove my point even further):
-A: 1000x chakra of the average Chuunin-Jounin Level Shinobi.
-B*: 1000 years of knowledge used in a multitude of battles. (For fun, let's not even include this benefit)
-B: The Greatest healing factor in the manga, only possibly outclassed by Hashirama's Senjutsu or the Yin Seal.
-C: Complete autonomous control. He can literally take over and fight Naruto's battles for him, body and mind.
-D: The ability to gather massive amounts of senjutsu with the greatest speed and control we've seen in the entirety of the manga.
-E: Chakra potent enough to boost the power of any ability used.
-F: Enhanced physical abilities, to the point that Naruto became faster than Ay without a day's training.
-Red Blood Chakra Cloak: Vast offensive and defensive abilities. Lost, but apparently not forever* (But let's give you the handicap and count it as Lost forever).
-Kyuubi Cloak Mode: Only partially earned, as he was given support by Bee and Kushina, and had Yamato as a fail-safe.
-Bijuu Mode: Increased Speed, Power, Reflexes, and Jutsu strength because of friendship. A handout. (But for fun, let's not even count it.)
-Bijuu Sage Mode: The ability to combine Bijuu Mode with Sage Mode, increasing the power of both. Not a handout, really, just super convenient. (But for fun, let's not even count it.)
-Ichibi: All abilities by request.
-Nibi: All abilities by request.
Sanbi: All abilities by request.
Yonbi: All abilities by request.
Gobi: All abilities by request.
Rokubi: All abilities by request.
Shichibi: All abilities by request.
Hachibi: All abilities by request.
Six Paths Senjutsu: Innate comprehension of the inner workings of all jutsus. Flight. Increased durability. Increased reflexes. Increased Sensory abilities. Gudoudamas. External regeneration. No training required.

Naruto's Inherent Powerups:

-Increased Vitality/Chakra: Uzumaki trait.


So if my estimates are correct, it seems Sasuke's 4 external handouts edge out Naruto's 11 (Which is really around 17 total, but we're giving you people the biggest handicap here) or Sasuke's 7 (more like 10) total "handouts" also edge out Naruto's 12 (more like 18).

So math's not exactly on your side. But let's count how many Sasuke has at the end of the manga compared to Naruto. Looks like Sasuke lost 2 of his handouts. Seems to put Sasuke at around 4 or 5 (8) compared to the 1 Naruto lost throughout the manga, still leaving him with 10 (17) or 11. Huh.

But wait, with all of those powerups, Naruto must have had to juggle a lot of different abilities and master many different fighting styles, right?

Wrong.

-SM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-KCM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-BM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-BSM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-Bijuu Abilities: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans. All work done by the Bijuu upon request.
-6PSM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans. Inherent abilities requiring no training or consciousness.

Whereas Sasuke's abilities...:

-Sharingan: Manipulating Eye Power.
-Curse Mark: Manipulating Bodily Power. Physical Boost.
-Orochimaru's Abilities: Entirely new jutsus. Physical Boost.
-MS: Manipulating Eye Power. Entirely new jutsus.
-EMS: Pretty useless.
-Rinnegan: Manipulating Eye Power. Entirely new jutsus.

And that's not even mentioning the adjustments he would have had to make after switching around his fighting style so many times after each loss or acquisition of power, and fails to get into the fact that Naruto's abilities are vastly superior (every powerup he has acquired has given him offensive and defensive boosts passively, sensory abilities, and a chakra boost, while Sasuke's actually drain his chakra faster and require acrive use), giving each of his acquired abilities more weight than Sasuke's, but again, we're giving you a handicap here just to prove how ridiculous this argument of yours is.

Let me know if you have anything to add. Though, I doubt you'll even respond.

 

[JStar King]

didnt read,pure Bs

Because you can't accept facts. No surprise.

:sdo:

 

[Oblivionx]

It's really not at crazy as you think. You have to remember that naruto had gained biju chakra since chapter 570 and retained that chakra all the way till the kaguya fight which was around chapter 690. He's been fighting Tobi/Obito, jyubi, juubito, jj madara, and kaguya with that chakra he was given during the biju meeting which he freed them from the edo bodies.

So it's not a tiny bit, it's a lot of chakra plus the addition senjutsu chakra he was using in his sagemode. Even when he was extracted from the gedo mazou he was still able to retain 2-7 tails chakra in his body before Obito put in Yin kurama, shukaku, and hachibi into his body.
Those biju chakra made a huge difference and all 8 of them together with the senjutsu he was gathering could very might as well be greater than just Yang kurama alone.

lol the biju that could toss aside all other bijus combined is weaker than than the portion of their chakra? XD

 

[Oblivionx]

MS already granted him that ability.

EMS has no proven benefit to the user other than restored eyesight.



You entirely missed the whole point of my response.

Nowhere did I downplay the Sharingan. Nowhere did I downplay the Rinnegan. I stated that EMS has no proven benefits other than restored eyesight. That is a fact.

Let's take a look through unbiased eyes.

Spoiler

Sasuke's External Powerups:

-Curse Mark: Lost forever.
-Orochimaru Abilities: Lost forever.
-EMS: No proven benefit other than restored eyesight.
-Rinnegan: Unmastered, with a single ability unlike any he has had previously, and a learning curve.

Sasuke's Inherent Powerups:
-Increased Chakra Potency: Uchiha trait.
-3T Sharingan: A given. He was born with it.
-Precognition*: Allows him to see briefly the moves that will come.
-Jutsu Recreation: Only used to copy Lee's speed so far.
-Genjutsu abilities*: Require training.
-MS: Fought for and earned through hardship in battle. Lost forever, replaced by EMS, which is for all intents and purposes, the exact same thing.

Naruto's External Powerups:

-The Kyuubi: So many benefits that they need to be listed as separate abilities (but don't worry, I'm counting them as one, just to give you every single handicap you can get, to prove my point even further):
-A: 1000x chakra of the average Chuunin-Jounin Level Shinobi.
-B*: 1000 years of knowledge used in a multitude of battles. (For fun, let's not even include this benefit)
-B: The Greatest healing factor in the manga, only possibly outclassed by Hashirama's Senjutsu or the Yin Seal.
-C: Complete autonomous control. He can literally take over and fight Naruto's battles for him, body and mind.
-D: The ability to gather massive amounts of senjutsu with the greatest speed and control we've seen in the entirety of the manga.
-E: Chakra potent enough to boost the power of any ability used.
-F: Enhanced physical abilities, to the point that Naruto became faster than Ay without a day's training.
-Red Blood Chakra Cloak: Vast offensive and defensive abilities. Lost, but apparently not forever* (But let's give you the handicap and count it as Lost forever).
-Kyuubi Cloak Mode: Only partially earned, as he was given support by Bee and Kushina, and had Yamato as a fail-safe.
-Bijuu Mode: Increased Speed, Power, Reflexes, and Jutsu strength because of friendship. A handout. (But for fun, let's not even count it.)
-Bijuu Sage Mode: The ability to combine Bijuu Mode with Sage Mode, increasing the power of both. Not a handout, really, just super convenient. (But for fun, let's not even count it.)
-Ichibi: All abilities by request.
-Nibi: All abilities by request.
Sanbi: All abilities by request.
Yonbi: All abilities by request.
Gobi: All abilities by request.
Rokubi: All abilities by request.
Shichibi: All abilities by request.
Hachibi: All abilities by request.
Six Paths Senjutsu: Innate comprehension of the inner workings of all jutsus. Flight. Increased durability. Increased reflexes. Increased Sensory abilities. Gudoudamas. External regeneration. No training required.

Naruto's Inherent Powerups:

-Increased Vitality/Chakra: Uzumaki trait.


So if my estimates are correct, it seems Sasuke's 4 external handouts edge out Naruto's 11 (Which is really around 17 total, but we're giving you people the biggest handicap here) or Sasuke's 7 (more like 10) total "handouts" also edge out Naruto's 12 (more like 18).

So math's not exactly on your side. But let's count how many Sasuke has at the end of the manga compared to Naruto. Looks like Sasuke lost 2 of his handouts. Seems to put Sasuke at around 4 or 5 (8) compared to the 1 Naruto lost throughout the manga, still leaving him with 10 (17) or 11. Huh.

But wait, with all of those powerups, Naruto must have had to juggle a lot of different abilities and master many different fighting styles, right?

Wrong.

-SM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-KCM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-BM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-BSM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-Bijuu Abilities: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans. All work done by the Bijuu upon request.
-6PSM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans. Inherent abilities requiring no training or consciousness.

Whereas Sasuke's abilities...:

-Sharingan: Manipulating Eye Power.
-Curse Mark: Manipulating Bodily Power. Physical Boost.
-Orochimaru's Abilities: Entirely new jutsus. Physical Boost.
-MS: Manipulating Eye Power. Entirely new jutsus.
-EMS: Pretty useless.
-Rinnegan: Manipulating Eye Power. Entirely new jutsus.

And that's not even mentioning the adjustments he would have had to make after switching around his fighting style so many times after each loss or acquisition of power, and fails to get into the fact that Naruto's abilities are vastly superior (every powerup he has acquired has given him offensive and defensive boosts passively, sensory abilities, and a chakra boost, while Sasuke's actually drain his chakra faster and require acrive use), giving each of his acquired abilities more weight than Sasuke's, but again, we're giving you a handicap here just to prove how ridiculous this argument of yours is.

Let me know if you have anything to add. Though, I doubt you'll even respond.

EMS has no proven benefits other than restored sight over MS? XD lol so going from getting the crap beat out you from individual kages to be able to take them all at the same time is no proven benefit XD Man this base is so insecure that they will downplay their own fav just to think good of themselves.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

MS already granted him that ability.

EMS has no proven benefit to the user other than restored eyesight.



You entirely missed the whole point of my response.

Nowhere did I downplay the Sharingan. Nowhere did I downplay the Rinnegan. I stated that EMS has no proven benefits other than restored eyesight. That is a fact.

Let's take a look through unbiased eyes.

Spoiler

Sasuke's External Powerups:

-Curse Mark: Lost forever.
-Orochimaru Abilities: Lost forever.
-EMS: No proven benefit other than restored eyesight.
-Rinnegan: Unmastered, with a single ability unlike any he has had previously, and a learning curve.

Sasuke's Inherent Powerups:
-Increased Chakra Potency: Uchiha trait.
-3T Sharingan: A given. He was born with it.
-Precognition*: Allows him to see briefly the moves that will come.
-Jutsu Recreation: Only used to copy Lee's speed so far.
-Genjutsu abilities*: Require training.
-MS: Fought for and earned through hardship in battle. Lost forever, replaced by EMS, which is for all intents and purposes, the exact same thing.

Naruto's External Powerups:

-The Kyuubi: So many benefits that they need to be listed as separate abilities (but don't worry, I'm counting them as one, just to give you every single handicap you can get, to prove my point even further):
-A: 1000x chakra of the average Chuunin-Jounin Level Shinobi.
-B*: 1000 years of knowledge used in a multitude of battles. (For fun, let's not even include this benefit)
-B: The Greatest healing factor in the manga, only possibly outclassed by Hashirama's Senjutsu or the Yin Seal.
-C: Complete autonomous control. He can literally take over and fight Naruto's battles for him, body and mind.
-D: The ability to gather massive amounts of senjutsu with the greatest speed and control we've seen in the entirety of the manga.
-E: Chakra potent enough to boost the power of any ability used.
-F: Enhanced physical abilities, to the point that Naruto became faster than Ay without a day's training.
-Red Blood Chakra Cloak: Vast offensive and defensive abilities. Lost, but apparently not forever* (But let's give you the handicap and count it as Lost forever).
-Kyuubi Cloak Mode: Only partially earned, as he was given support by Bee and Kushina, and had Yamato as a fail-safe.
-Bijuu Mode: Increased Speed, Power, Reflexes, and Jutsu strength because of friendship. A handout. (But for fun, let's not even count it.)
-Bijuu Sage Mode: The ability to combine Bijuu Mode with Sage Mode, increasing the power of both. Not a handout, really, just super convenient. (But for fun, let's not even count it.)
-Ichibi: All abilities by request.
-Nibi: All abilities by request.
Sanbi: All abilities by request.
Yonbi: All abilities by request.
Gobi: All abilities by request.
Rokubi: All abilities by request.
Shichibi: All abilities by request.
Hachibi: All abilities by request.
Six Paths Senjutsu: Innate comprehension of the inner workings of all jutsus. Flight. Increased durability. Increased reflexes. Increased Sensory abilities. Gudoudamas. External regeneration. No training required.

Naruto's Inherent Powerups:

-Increased Vitality/Chakra: Uzumaki trait.


So if my estimates are correct, it seems Sasuke's 4 external handouts edge out Naruto's 11 (Which is really around 17 total, but we're giving you people the biggest handicap here) or Sasuke's 7 (more like 10) total "handouts" also edge out Naruto's 12 (more like 18).

So math's not exactly on your side. But let's count how many Sasuke has at the end of the manga compared to Naruto. Looks like Sasuke lost 2 of his handouts. Seems to put Sasuke at around 4 or 5 (8) compared to the 1 Naruto lost throughout the manga, still leaving him with 10 (17) or 11. Huh.

But wait, with all of those powerups, Naruto must have had to juggle a lot of different abilities and master many different fighting styles, right?

Wrong.

-SM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-KCM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-BM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-BSM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans.
-Bijuu Abilities: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans. All work done by the Bijuu upon request.
-6PSM: Physical boost. Bigger Rasengans. Inherent abilities requiring no training or consciousness.

Whereas Sasuke's abilities...:

-Sharingan: Manipulating Eye Power.
-Curse Mark: Manipulating Bodily Power. Physical Boost.
-Orochimaru's Abilities: Entirely new jutsus. Physical Boost.
-MS: Manipulating Eye Power. Entirely new jutsus.
-EMS: Pretty useless.
-Rinnegan: Manipulating Eye Power. Entirely new jutsus.

And that's not even mentioning the adjustments he would have had to make after switching around his fighting style so many times after each loss or acquisition of power, and fails to get into the fact that Naruto's abilities are vastly superior (every powerup he has acquired has given him offensive and defensive boosts passively, sensory abilities, and a chakra boost, while Sasuke's actually drain his chakra faster and require acrive use), giving each of his acquired abilities more weight than Sasuke's, but again, we're giving you a handicap here just to prove how ridiculous this argument of yours is.

Let me know if you have anything to add. Though, I doubt you'll even respond.

no matter what you say kurama is 1 freaking power up...this is the most retarded argument I have ever seen

 

[TheBboy]

yes nartuo : half of kuramas chakra+ some chakra from all the other tailed beasts + ashura's charka + half of hagoromo's chakra
sasuke : indra's chakra + half of hagoromo's chakra
do the math

 

[The Necromancer]

didnt read,pure Bs

Yeah, I wasn't trying to convince some nobody. Sorry.

EMS has no proven benefits other than restored sight over MS? XD lol so going from getting the crap beat out you from individual kages to be able to take them all at the same time is no proven benefit XD Man this base is so insecure that they will downplay their own fav just to think good of themselves.

You have proof that EMS gave him this ability, and not experience? Because I would love to see that. Seems to me that there was already a power difference in MS Sasuke who fought Bee, vs. MS Sasuke who fought Ay, and MS Sasuke who fought Danzo. No further powerups were needed there, just practice.

no matter what you say kurama is 1 freaking power up...this is the most retarded argument I have ever seen

Sure. And I covered that. It just means Naruto got 5 more handouts than Sasuke, not 12 or so.

I literally gave you people every single benefit of the doubt, and Naruto still came out with double the handouts, all of which are more powerful, combine-able, and easier to use.

 

[Kakooli]

what a bull$hit thread! stop giving naruto a credit for teh talents of a fox!

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[Rikudou Tobi]

how about adding the other half of kurama into the mix?

That's a lot of chakra and I don't think Adult naruto has 100% kurama and all the other biju chakra on top of that.

lol the biju that could toss aside all other bijus combined is weaker than than the portion of their chakra? XD

Since when does physical strength have to do with chakra quantity? Did you bother to read the whole thing or did skim through the whole thing? Hachibi was able to one hand bat the 5 tails but the four tails picked hachibi up and tossed him. His chakra quantity is still greater than theirs but in terms of strength there's a clear difference. If not for Hachibi btw, the 3 tails would've juggernaut rolled through Kurama.

Don't forget to that the jyubi itself was an aggregation of biju 1-7 with yin kurama being in death god and yang kurama being inside naruto. And sure enough the jyubi completely dominated both hachibi and kurama at the same time. So you need to learn to add up the chakra potency properly and differentiate it between physical strength. :|

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I literally gave you people every single benefit of the doubt, and Naruto still came out with double the handouts, all of which are more powerful, combine-able, and easier to use.

kurama= 1 handout

 

[The Necromancer]

kurama= 1 handout

Are you really this bad at math?

Naruto has 8 Bijuu giving him powers for the last 2 arcs of the manga.

Even condensing every handout I listed into 1 (which I already did in the post) Naruto is still up nearly 7 handouts over Sasuke.

There is not a single power up that you can justify as earned by Naruto himself that I have not already considered and subtracted from the final total in which Naruto still has nearly twice as many as Sasuke.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Are you really this bad at math?

Naruto has 8 Bijuu giving him powers for the last 2 arcs of the manga.

Even condensing every handout I listed into 1 (which I already did in the post) Naruto is still up nearly 7 handouts over Sasuke.

There is not a single power up that you can justify as earned by Naruto himself that I have not already considered and subtracted from the final total in which Naruto still has nearly twice as many as Sasuke.

kurama and hagoromo's senjutsu= 2 handouts...

eternal mangekyo and curse mark and hagoromo's rinnegan= 3 handouts...

both used tailed beast chakra 1 thru 8...who is incapable of doing math again?