Think about it
He mastered shadow clone jutsu (a b level jutsu) in literally seconds
Mastered the rasengan faster than his Minato and Jiraiya then infused with a chakra nature something his own prodigy father couldn't do, then made a shuriken versions of it that was infused with a chakra nature.
Mastered Sage mode faster than Hashirama and Jiraiya without using a animal.
Got control of tailed beast chakra faster than any other jinchuuriki
Mastered tail beast mode in a seconds (Side noting: you would probably want to say that because Kurama was helping him, Killer bee got help from the Eight Tails and still took him years to get control of tail beast mode, and naruto did is a less than a minute.
He then fused Sage mode and Tailed Beast Mode like it was nothing
Got chakra from at the tailed beast and He was immediately able to use and Chakra natures and Kekkai Genkais of all the tailed beasts without any training.
He was able to manipulate the black balls on a level higher than Madara and Obito.
and list just keeps going, yet we still call him an idiot
Update- Sasuke fanboys this is a Naruto thread,but please still bring you comparisons as if it phases the NARUTO fanboys
Also ITACHI with Rinnegan solos you favorite character
He is a idiot thats for sure, but what you're saying is very true his battle sense is very high! Idiots can be genius, also smart intelligent peeps can also be an a$$hole ~ its vice versa!
Exactly. Naruto was behind Sasuke for at least half of Shippuden until the Pain Arc finished.I don't understand how people can call Naruto a genius when compared to Sasuke.
@bold Actually, Naruto was behind Sasuke even after the Pain Arc finished. Naruto had tremendous benefits on his side when he fought and defeated Pain, and Pain was WAY stronger than Naruto. Pain could have owned the fight any time if he had an intention to kill Naruto, including tons of other disadvantages on Pain's side as well as help from Kurama as usual (If you can't observe this easy to decipher fact just like every other implicit manga fact which can be observed without much brainstorming, because you people are just so ignorant and limited in thinking capacity, I'll do the favor of explaining it on demand). And MS Sasuke > SM Naruto.
In addition to that:
EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto
EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto
EMS Sasuke < SM + BM Naruto
EMS + Rinnegan Sasuke > Most powerful version of Naruto
(If the limited capacity of your brain doesn't allow you to understand any of the above statements, or you disagree with them, let me know. I'll explain them to some extent since I can't fully explain everything).
@underlined Those people are tremendously wrong. Naruto wasn't a genius like Sasuke. He was good at some things though. But those people who give all the credit of his progress to hard work are also tremendously wrong. He also wasn't an INTENSELY hard worker. He worked hard, but not as hard to call it hardcore or intense, and his hard work doesn't boast a significant difference when compared to Sasuke. Since his natural ability aided him so much. He learned things quite fast. He could cut down the time of days worth of training to just a few hours using shadow clones due to insane amount of chakra, which increased his progression rate even faster than Sasuke despite not being naturally adept and a genius like him. He also had the added benefit of possessing the already blossomed chakra of Ashura which gave him chakra rivaling Sasuke's in some aspects, not to mention Kurama's immense help. All these are natural abilities including third party ones, and have nothing to do with genius instinct or hard work. He also had an incredible amount of luck. Well, Sasuke did as well, to be honest.
In addition to that: EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto
EMS Sasuke - No PS < BM Naruto
BM Naruto = EMS Sasuke with PS
EMS Sasuke <<< SM + BM Naruto
RSM Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke
RSM Naruto = Sasuke /w Tailed Beasts
In addition to that:
EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto
EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto
EMS Sasuke < SM + BM Naruto EMS + Rinnegan Sasuke > Most powerful version of Naruto
@bold Actually, Naruto was behind Sasuke even after the Pain Arc finished. Naruto had tremendous benefits on his side when he fought and defeated Pain, and Pain was WAY stronger than Naruto. Pain could have owned the fight any time if he had an intention to kill Naruto, including tons of other disadvantages on Pain's side as well as help from Kurama as usual (If you can't observe this easy to decipher fact just like every other implicit manga fact which can be observed without much brainstorming, because you people are just so ignorant and limited in thinking capacity, I'll do the favor of explaining it on demand). And MS Sasuke > SM Naruto.
In addition to that:
EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto
EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto
EMS Sasuke < SM + BM Naruto
EMS + Rinnegan Sasuke > Most powerful version of Naruto
(If the limited capacity of your brain doesn't allow you to understand any of the above statements, or you disagree with them, let me know. I'll explain them to some extent since I can't fully explain everything).
@underlined Those people are tremendously wrong. Naruto wasn't a genius like Sasuke. He was good at some things though. But those people who give all the credit of his progress to hard work are also tremendously wrong. He also wasn't an INTENSELY hard worker. He worked hard, but not as hard to call it hardcore or intense, and his hard work doesn't boast a significant difference when compared to Sasuke. Since his natural ability aided him so much. He learned things quite fast. He could cut down the time of days worth of training to just a few hours using shadow clones due to insane amount of chakra, which increased his progression rate even faster than Sasuke despite not being naturally adept and a genius like him. He also had the added benefit of possessing the already blossomed chakra of Ashura which gave him chakra rivaling Sasuke's in some aspects, not to mention Kurama's immense help. All these are natural abilities including third party ones, and have nothing to do with genius instinct or hard work. He also had an incredible amount of luck. Well, Sasuke did as well, to be honest.
You did nothing... right. And didn't fix anything at all. You made is worse. Most of what you modified is completely wrong.
BTW, you're so f***ing stupid! You only determine the power they possess by their battle results whether they win or lose, and not through the proper analysis of their battle and the circumstances etc (unbiased, of course). If someone wins in a battle against an opponent doesn't make him more powerful. How old do you have to be to understand something so simple and logical?
You've to analyse the battle comprehensively with complete and proper detail about each specific happening, then extract the reasons for each happening, AND THEN conclude who's stronger. Instead you see "victory", and affirm who's stronger just based on that. How immature!
And if you really are so insistent on what you said, why don't you explain and prove it?
And while you do make your feeble efforts to prove my statement wrong, here's a little homework for you to ponder upon. Take a look at the scan below:
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Kurama said that Sasuke was practically on the level of the Sage of the Six Paths (and Kurama is well aware of the Sage's power). He had the Rinnegan's power along with the power of all tailed beasts. Prove Naruto's equivalency to that level of power. Did Naruto ever attain power comparable to the Sage of the Six Paths?
In other words, Sasuke has the power to simultaneously bind, overpower and have complete ascendancy over all of the nine tailed beasts. Show me if Naruto could do that, or anything of that caliber i.e. dominating all tailed beasts...
Also, think about any jutsu in Narutoverse and Sasuke can counter it, either completely or to some extent. Meanwhile, Naruto is absolutely defenseless against Infinite Tsukuyomi.
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So Sasuke can dominate the most powerful creatures and repel the most powerful jutsu in Narutoverse... Can Naruto do that?
That's a weak counter. Naruto needs Kyuubi to fight Sasuke. He is helpless without it and will most definitely lose. While Sasuke needs Itachi's eyes only to assure his victory over Naruto. He's still stronger than Naruto without it. Their statements completely expose the context of it.
