Naruto is 10* stronger than jiraya

[Blaze Release]

10 times stronger?. Its true naruto and jiraiya are in different leagues now but jiraiya would give him a fight

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Oro was the strongest sannin.... Kishi basically copied the jappenese mythology story of Orochimaru, tsunade and jiraya.... snake> frog my friend... Manda> gamabunta

Following the three way deadlock Tsunade beats Orochimaru cuz Slug>Snakes, in what universe is that possible?

 

[-Vegeta-]

Oro was the strongest sannin.... Kishi basically copied the jappenese mythology story of Orochimaru, tsunade and jiraya.... snake> frog my friend... Manda> gamabunta

So because Orochimaru has a stronger summon means he's stronger than Jiraiya? That is some seriously flawed logic.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

30% chakra?

Yeah in the Part 1 fight between the Sannin Tsunade drugged Jiraiya and he was at 30% chakra and was slow and weak, he even gave that number too, specifically stating that.

So everything he did in that battle was while he was drugged and using 30% of his chakra.

That battle was really between a drugged Jiraiya and an Oro who couldn't use arms, as Tsunade with her weak self was barely fighting evenly against a part 1 Kabuto.

 

[Blaze Release]

So because Orochimaru has a stronger summon means he's stronger than Jiraiya? That is some seriously flawed logic.

Lulz i think youve got the wrong idea.
What he is saying is that kishi obviously uses japanese/Chinese mythology in his work and the sannins are based on this.

In th myth it goes like this;
Snake > frog
Slug> snake
Frog> slug

And this is in relation to those three in the myth

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Alright, they both start in base and are fully healthy ,

Oro claps his hand summons first and 2nd , Jiraya needs like 7 minutes of stall time to get into sage mode...

What does jiraya do once he gets hit with Bringer of darkness in base? and the only way to get out is hiting the caster?

Jiraya isn't wining against oro , Him winning Depends SOLELY on getting into sage mode, and most fights END in the time it takes for him to get into that


Summoning just gamabunta alone takes a LARGE chunk out of his chakra

He's got 5 in stamina as in like Naruto and Bee and Kisame so no Summoning doesn't take a large chunk of his chakra.
He's got his detection barrier for when he's caught in genjutsu of darkness,

He can summon a toad to help him fight while he summons the sages or have a clone do it while he fights(swamp of the underworld for wood and water techs, hair tech to protect normal attacks like even Kusanagi, oil from toad to amplify his fire for more dangerous attacks) once he does that, its genjutsu instant KO then he traps them all in his toad barrier forever.

Happy New Year.

 

[Owarij]

He's got 5 in stamina as in like Naruto and Bee and Kisame so no Summoning doesn't take a large chunk of his chakra.
He's got his detection barrier for when he's caught in genjutsu of darkness,

He can summon a toad to help him fight while he summons the sages or have a clone do it while he fights(swamp of the underworld for wood and water techs, hair tech to protect normal attacks like even Kusanagi, oil from toad to amplify his fire for more dangerous attacks) once he does that, its genjutsu instant KO then he traps them all in his toad barrier forever.

Happy New Year.

barrier wont help when a

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like this is coming at him and he's blind...


his toad will be canceled out by oros summonings... , nidaime and manda can handle w.e he wants... him and hashirama can handle jiraya

His hair wont protect him from kusunagi , kusanagi can cut diamond o.0

 

[-Vegeta-]

Lulz i think youve got the wrong idea.
What he is saying is that kishi obviously uses japanese/Chinese mythology in his work and the sannins are based on this.

In th myth it goes like this;
Snake > frog
Slug> snake
Frog> slug

And this is in relation to those three in the myth

Yea and if the order of strongest to weakest for the sannin was the same way as their summonings then that would make Tsunade stronger than Orochimaru and we all know that's not true.

 

[Blaze Release]

Yea and if the order of strongest to weakest for the sannin was the same way as their summonings then that would make Tsunade stronger than Orochimaru and we all know that's not true.

You still dont get it do you.
It has nothing to do with their summonings, the story about oro, jiraiya and tsuande is from the myth and that is how in the myth it goes

 

[Gutsy]

fist of all orochimaru is the strongest sannin and 2nsd being a sannin isn't all that great its just a name given by the 3rd to his student's

Wrong its given to them by Hanzo of the Salamander.

 

[-Vegeta-]

You still dont get it do you.
It has nothing to do with their summonings, the story about oro, jiraiya and tsuande is from the myth and that is how in the myth it goes

And you clearly don't get what I'm saying but I digress.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

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like this is coming at him and he's blind...


his toad will be canceled out by oros summonings... , nidaime and manda can handle w.e he wants... him and hashirama can handle jiraya

His hair wont protect him from kusunagi , kusanagi can cut diamond o.0

The shitload of trees will be sunk into swamp of the underworld as will any water tech from nidaime

Any snake will be sunk into swamp of the underworld, if its Manda, it'll at least immobilized till its genjutsu'd and killed.

His hair tech protected him from Kusanagi when they fought during the whole make-Tsunade-hokage deal and it can't cut diamond, it didn't cut Enma diamond stick form.

 

[Noble Armada]

IT'S NOT A POSITION. It was a title given to them by Hanzou. Naruto cannot be a sannin.