Naruto Hypocrisy Stacks up once again

Monkey D Uchiha

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It turned out this chapter Naruto contradicted himself when he called Boruto a failure after how he always preaches about using KOTE device hinders your ninja skill and yet he ended up using a scientific ninja tools to beat Boruto.

Let me go through all of Naruto hypocrisy:

Hypocrisy #1
In his mind, he kills Kakuzu for defending himself and yet forgives Obito who killed many in aggression and allow orochimaru and Kabuto to roam free.

Hypocrisy #2
Told Obito how he always walks down a long steep path to become Hokage and yet ended up taking too many shortcuts thanks to his reliance of the Nine Tails and all other powerups.

Hypocrisy #3
Told Hagoromo that "We're great friends you know." and yet they both never got along especially during shippuden when they went each other throats.

Hypocrisy #4
Naruto believed that fate can be changed through hard work and effort and yet he was automatically destined by greatness thanks to the prophecy. In the end Neji was right

Hypocrisy #5
Itachi remarks Naruto not to carry everything on his shoulder and believe his friends. Naruto understood and yet the moment Itachi left, Naruto created so many clones throughout the entire battlefield to help everyone and his friend.

Hypocrisy #6
Told Momoshiki that he's a monster and yet completely gets backfired when he also has a fox monster.

I'm pretty sure there are more if I am forgotten.
 

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Too much. :salt: But Naruto is a hypocrite during some cases.
 

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It turned out this chapter Naruto contradicted himself when he called Boruto a failure after how he always preaches about using KOTE device hinders your ninja skill and yet he ended up using a scientific ninja tools to beat Boruto.

Let me go through all of Naruto hypocrisy:

Hypocrisy #1
In his mind, he kills Kakuzu for defending himself and yet forgives Obito who killed many in aggression and allow orochimaru and Kabuto to roam free.

Hypocrisy #2
Told Obito how he always walks down a long steep path to become Hokage and yet ended up taking too many shortcuts thanks to his reliance of the Nine Tails and all other powerups.

Hypocrisy #3
Told Hagoromo that "We're great friends you know." and yet they both never got along especially during shippuden when they went each other throats.

Hypocrisy #4
Naruto believed that fate can be changed through hard work and effort and yet he was automatically destined by greatness thanks to the prophecy. In the end Neji was right

Hypocrisy #5
Itachi remarks Naruto not to carry everything on his shoulder and believe his friends. Naruto understood and yet the moment Itachi left, Naruto created so many clones throughout the entire battlefield to help everyone and his friend.

Hypocrisy #6
Told Momoshiki that he's a monster and yet completely gets backfired when he also has a fox monster.

I'm pretty sure there are more if I am forgotten.

oh boy another idiot.

Re-watch the anime and try get what the author is trying to show you.

#1:KABUTO IS GOOD NOW 100% HE GOT MIND RAPED BY ITACHI AND FIXED HIS WAYS, OBITO TRIED TO REDEEM HIMSELF IN THE END AND HE DID and HE AND NAruto are alike so OFC NAruto is going to Forgive him.......NARUTO COULD OF BEEN LIKE HIM!!!, OROCHIMARU HAS ALSO REDEEMED HIMSELF HELPED IN THE WAR.......AND EVEN GAVE NARUTO HIS ONLY SON AS A BODYGUARD FOR BORUTO!

#2:REWATCH THE ENTIRE ANIME YOU BABOON! Did you Miss the OVER 200 EPISODES OF NARUTO TRAINING HIS ASS OFF To become Strong and MAster the Kyuubi's Power?????? He didn't get that shit for free HE HAD TO FIGHT THE NINE TAIL FOX *facepalm*

#3:They are Great Friends and Understood Each other just by observing each other WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN MULTIPLE TIMES(the reason why sasuke Kept Repeating HE WANTED HIS ONE AND ONLY FRIEND NARUTO TO DIE so he can be in complete darkness emo sheeetttt)

#4: Naruto was only Destined to FIGHT SASUKE YOU EMPTY HEADED CHIMP! *facepalm*

#5: Naruto was taking help from everyone during the war EVen SAKURA FFS!

#6: makes no sense

RE-WATCH THE ANIME.......DOn't know WTF you watchin'


So hard to be nice to stupid people *sigh* it's way too difficult.
 
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Hypocrisy #5
Itachi remarks Naruto not to carry everything on his shoulder and believe his friends. Naruto understood and yet the moment Itachi left, Naruto created so many clones throughout the entire battlefield to help everyone and his friend.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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oh boy another idiot.

Re-watch the anime and try get what the author is trying to show you.

#1:KABUTO IS GOOD NOW 100% HE GOT MIND RAPED BY ITACHI AND FIXED HIS WAYS, OBITO TRIED TO REDEEM HIMSELF IN THE END AND HE DID and HE AND NAruto are alike so OFC NAruto is going to Forgive him.......NARUTO COULD OF BEEN LIKE HIM!!!, OROCHIMARU HAS ALSO REDEEMED HIMSELF HELPED IN THE WAR.......AND EVEN GAVE NARUTO HIS ONLY SON AS A BODYGUARD FOR BORUTO!

#2:REWATCH THE ENTIRE ANIME YOU BABOON! Did you Miss the OVER 200 EPISODES OF NARUTO TRAINING HIS ASS OFF To become Strong and MAster the Kyuubi's Power?????? He didn't get that shit for free HE HAD TO FIGHT THE NINE TAIL FOX *facepalm*

#3:They are Great Friends and Understood Each other just by observing each other WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN MULTIPLE TIMES(the reason why sasuke Kept Repeating HE WANTED HIS ONE AND ONLY FRIEND NARUTO TO DIE so he can be in complete darkness emo sheeetttt)

#4: Naruto was only Destined to FIGHT SASUKE YOU EMPTY HEADED CHIMP! *facepalm*

#5: Naruto was taking help from everyone during the war EVen SAKURA FFS!

#6: makes no sense

RE-WATCH THE ANIME.......DO'n't know WTF you watchin'


So hard to be nice to stupid people *sigh* it's way too difficult.

Woah!!
 

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It turned out this chapter Naruto contradicted himself when he called Boruto a failure after how he always preaches about using KOTE device hinders your ninja skill and yet he ended up using a scientific ninja tools to beat Boruto.

Let me go through all of Naruto hypocrisy:

Hypocrisy #1
In his mind, he kills Kakuzu for defending himself and yet forgives Obito who killed many in aggression and allow orochimaru and Kabuto to roam free.

Hypocrisy #2
Told Obito how he always walks down a long steep path to become Hokage and yet ended up taking too many shortcuts thanks to his reliance of the Nine Tails and all other powerups.

Hypocrisy #3
Told Hagoromo that "We're great friends you know." and yet they both never got along especially during shippuden when they went each other throats.

Hypocrisy #4
Naruto believed that fate can be changed through hard work and effort and yet he was automatically destined by greatness thanks to the prophecy. In the end Neji was right

Hypocrisy #5
Itachi remarks Naruto not to carry everything on his shoulder and believe his friends. Naruto understood and yet the moment Itachi left, Naruto created so many clones throughout the entire battlefield to help everyone and his friend.

Hypocrisy #6
Told Momoshiki that he's a monster and yet completely gets backfired when he also has a fox monster.

I'm pretty sure there are more if I am forgotten.

I'm positive you didn't think this thread through given how all your points are out of context and based on your flawed interpretation of the manga and its themes.
 

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oh boy another idiot.

Re-watch the anime and try get what the author is trying to show you.

#1:KABUTO IS GOOD NOW 100% HE GOT MIND RAPED BY ITACHI AND FIXED HIS WAYS, OBITO TRIED TO REDEEM HIMSELF IN THE END AND HE DID and HE AND NAruto are alike so OFC NAruto is going to Forgive him.......NARUTO COULD OF BEEN LIKE HIM!!!, OROCHIMARU HAS ALSO REDEEMED HIMSELF HELPED IN THE WAR.......AND EVEN GAVE NARUTO HIS ONLY SON AS A BODYGUARD FOR BORUTO!

#2:REWATCH THE ENTIRE ANIME YOU BABOON! Did you Miss the OVER 200 EPISODES OF NARUTO TRAINING HIS ASS OFF To become Strong and MAster the Kyuubi's Power?????? He didn't get that shit for free HE HAD TO FIGHT THE NINE TAIL FOX *facepalm*

#3:They are Great Friends and Understood Each other just by observing each other WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN MULTIPLE TIMES(the reason why sasuke Kept Repeating HE WANTED HIS ONE AND ONLY FRIEND NARUTO TO DIE so he can be in complete darkness emo sheeetttt)

#4: Naruto was only Destined to FIGHT SASUKE YOU EMPTY HEADED CHIMP! *facepalm*

#5: Naruto was taking help from everyone during the war EVen SAKURA FFS!

#6: makes no sense

RE-WATCH THE ANIME.......DOn't know WTF you watchin'


So hard to be nice to stupid people *sigh* it's way too difficult.

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Only two of those points were valid. The rest were complete shit.

1. He didn't kill Kakuzu. Kakuzu was not really a moral enemy, so he was not approached as such.

2. Using what's available to you is not using "shortcuts". He still went the route he believed in to chase his goals.

3. Even Sasuke saw Naruto as his friend. And even if you were right, that's not a hypocrisy, that's being naive at best.

4. This was Kishi's hypocrisy not Naruto's. Naruto didn't choose to be the chosen one nor did he know about that stuff when he was preaching about changing fate.

5. Doing your best in the war is not carrying everything alone, he got so much help in the war and didn't reject help, which is what Itachi meant. How could you possibly twist this to hypocrisy?

6. Haven't seen the movie so I don't really know the context.
 

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OP the thread is solid I couldn't disagree with a single point.
 

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No they may be flawed in your mind but you don't want to see the truth of it.
 
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I don't know if you're trying to troll or not but I'll entertain your 6 points, with some counter-points.

Hypocrisy #1: Can you expand on this for me? Or, are you saying that Naruto is a hypocrite because he himself kills while letting other actual killers free?

Hypocrisy #2: This is a fallacy of false equivocation. Naruto didn't choose to have the Nine Tails in the first place, but he did maximize his potential with him, like in the learning process using Kagebushins when training for his second nature affinity (it was Wind if memory serves me right). Besides, Naruto learned a level A difficulty ninjutsu, the Rasengan, within a week. And perfectly mastered the Kame Sage mode, again, without Kurama's help. Not even Ero-Sennin could master it completely like Naruto did. If Naruto did took shortcuts to Hokage because of Kurama, then he should of been one as soon as the 4th ninja war was over. But he didn't. It took several years and even more training before Naruto was ready. And lets not forget that Kurama was 'sleeping' after the 4th Ninja War and VOTE II fight with Sasuske. It is uncertain to fully access if Kurama took naps from time to time, but we do know that it was during Sarada's ninja gaiden storyline was when Kurama's power was finally flexed again (with the movie "The Last" as an exception).

Hypocrisy #3: Was Naruto lying? Yet, Naruto understood Sasuske better than he himself, at times. Naruto understood that while their friendship at that time was in a terrible state, he was confident that he would get him back to being good friends. In the end Naruto's unwavering friendship towards Sasuske is what ultimately saved Sasuske from going total evil. True friendships withstands even the darkest of moments. That, or Naruto was just too foolish and hard headed to not give up on Sasuske, or their friendship.

Hypocrisy #4: Another fallacy. Naruto already wanted to become Hokage long before he knew about some prophecy. I think i've covered this already, but let me know if I miss anything or took something out of context.

Hypocrisy #5: This is a misunderstanding of the heart and character of Naruto versus Itachi's intended words. People were dying left and right on the battlefield. Naruto's compassion for others and his ability to protect others, how he can, allowed him to save as many people as possible. So he shared Kurama's cloak with everyone he could touch. Though he couldn't save everyone, thus, Neji's death. Itachi's words of wisdom to Naruto stemmed from arguably the greatest weakness of the Uchiha clan: their arrogance. Itachi's words were more of a "you can't do it alone" connotation while Naruto's heart/actions are from a point of view of "lets do this together." If you remember the "greatest ninjutsu" technique ever created was when the whole ninja alliance formed that spear point to cut the god tree down.

Hypocrisy #6: When someone lacks the most basic forms of compassion or empathy towards others they are sometimes called monsters. It is different from a physically visceral monster, or force. Kurama is a monster in the sense that he's such a potent force (in this case Chakra) to reckon with, but he's not cruel or apathetic to life or friends like Momoshiki.

Naruto went from unable to even mold chakra properly--because of Kurama's yin (or was it yan's) nature interference with Naruto's own chakra nature, and the seal who kept Kurama him at bay, back then as a kid--to completely able to transfer and connect to ALL people's chakra and their nature. There was no tool or ninja technology to help Naruto out with that. Lastly, when did Naruto need to use a ninja tool to beat his own son, presumably in battle???

Thanks for reading!

If anyone is not trolling feel free to point out any weaknesses from my arguments. Learning is good. It's how we grow...so long as we're trying to build each other up; not tear each other down.

Peace & Love
 
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