Naruto > Hashirama

[MadaraHashirama]

Because we perfectly know every Jutsu Hashirama can do and what he is capable of. (4-5 Jutsus)

The scrolls he always has are only filled with a bunch of Forbidden Jutsu's like Edo Tensei, nothing too special.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Naruto's abilities have been shown to surpass Hashirama's at the moment.

So yes, for now, he wins.

 

[shinobu sensui]

They're too quick for Hashirama to react. What's he going to do vs 16 RasenShurikens and a TBB?

He cannot make t many clones in base mode,if he can he hasn't showed it. And the first will just suppress the nine tail's chakra. Like Yamato did remember ? But it will be way more effective. Shodai hokage is narutos worst possible match up cause he won't have the help of the fox

 

[shinobu sensui]

First of All:

He can definitally surpress the chakra of a perfect jinchurriki. The wood techniques allow him to control the tailed beasts by containing the Tailed beast chakra. It doesnt need to be a Tailed beast alone to achieve this.

Also the Bringer of Darkness technique would also work. Hashirama doesnt have ANY evil intentions. He was born with the Will of Fire and upholds it. These are two "good" guys fighting. Since Hashi doesnt have negative emotions like a "evil" shinobi would, this wouldnt work.

Hashirama has life force within him literally. He could spam as many would clones and naruto could use shadow clones. Plus we have no idea of the FULL extent of ALL Hashirama's abilities, like we have of Naruto.



-gHost Senju

This, exactly

 

[Retsu]

He cannot make t many clones in base mode,if he can he hasn't showed it. And the first will just suppress the nine tail's chakra. Like Yamato did remember ? But it will be way more effective. Shodai hokage is narutos worst possible match up cause he won't have the help of the fox

We've never seen Yamato suppress a calm thinking Perfect jinchuuriki Naruto, only that tailed beast cloak, which is basically a mini Bijuu, for all we know that new Uzumaki seal could prevent it from being suppressed, even more so when Naruto willingly opens the seal.

Hashirama was said to have wrestled control of the fox from Madara, good luck trying that with Naruto, the fox is embedded in him, and I know Hashirama's not extracting any tailed beast, and Naruto crushed the 1st necklace which I'm sure is way more powerful than yamato's Mokuton suppression, so Naruto may be able to resist.

 

[Thatoneguy]

Im almost outta pop corn!

 

[Ryuu..]

First of All:

He can definitally surpress the chakra of a perfect jinchurriki. The wood techniques allow him to control the tailed beasts by containing the Tailed beast chakra. It doesnt need to be a Tailed beast alone to achieve this.

Also the Bringer of Darkness technique would also work. Hashirama doesnt have ANY evil intentions. He was born with the Will of Fire and upholds it. These are two "good" guys fighting. Since Hashi doesnt have negative emotions like a "evil" shinobi would, this wouldnt work.

Hashirama has life force within him literally. He could spam as many would clones and naruto could use shadow clones. Plus we have no idea of the FULL extent of ALL Hashirama's abilities, like we have of Naruto.



-gHost Senju

He does have evil intentions because he's trying to kill Naruto -__-

 

[Reptile]

May be.

 

[shinobu sensui]

We've never seen Yamato suppress a calm thinking Perfect jinchuuriki Naruto, only that tailed beast cloak, which is basically a mini Bijuu, for all we know that new Uzumaki seal could prevent it from being suppressed, even more so when Naruto willingly opens the seal.

Hashirama was said to have wrestled control of the fox from Madara, good luck trying that with Naruto, the fox is embedded in him, and I know Hashirama's not extracting any tailed beast, and Naruto crushed the 1st necklace which I'm sure is way more powerful than yamato's Mokuton suppression, so Naruto may be able to resist.

Good argument , but I don't believe the cloak is very different than biju mode in the that regaurd,I of course am not 100% though,and the first hokage's mokuton is also much more powerful than Yamato's

 

[Cronos]

First of All:

He can definitally surpress the chakra of a perfect jinchurriki. The wood techniques allow him to control the tailed beasts by containing the Tailed beast chakra. It doesnt need to be a Tailed beast alone to achieve this.

Also the Bringer of Darkness technique would also work. Hashirama doesnt have ANY evil intentions. He was born with the Will of Fire and upholds it. These are two "good" guys fighting. Since Hashi doesnt have negative emotions like a "evil" shinobi would, this wouldnt work.

Hashirama has life force within him literally. He could spam as many would clones and naruto could use shadow clones. Plus we have no idea of the FULL extent of ALL Hashirama's abilities, like we have of Naruto.



-gHost Senju

Do we really know all about Naruto's abilities? he just got the BM and the only thing we know about that is...

1. Crazy speed.
2. Amazing Strength.
3. Titanic Chakra.
4. Kurama's Tailed Beast Bomb, which seems to be stronger than the other tailed beast's bombs.

I agree that we know alot but we only seen one jutsu yet in the BM yet, it may be no more, but we don't know do we:scorps:

 

[Honord Sage]

Look all the characters were created by Kishi, the Name of the series is Naruto, the Hero is Naruto and when Kishi makes Him the New SO6P the master of His world. You can't change it, you must accept it or stop reading the Manga for its Kishi's way or the highway.

 

[Retsu]

Good argument , but I don't believe the cloak is very different than biju mode in the that regaurd,I of course am not 100% though,and the first hokage's mokuton is also much more powerful than Yamato's

While I agree he could possibly suppress the fox, He'd have to immobilize naruto to actually do it, and it'd be really hard to do so seeing as Naruto is going to eventually use a few KM clones.

On top of that Narutos speed is such that he may not even have time to attack, and his strength is Outrageous as well, because who else could knock away 5 TBB's in 1 pass, all in the blink of an eye?

ppl can argue that Hashirama would use Mokuton clones, but so what? Every clone divides power, and Naruto CAN make more since he is a tailed beast host, and all of his clones are faster. BM Naruto could get him in the time it takes for BM to wear off. I see no way for Hashirama to win

 

[arv993]

This is really a toss up match

Advantages naruto has
-he has so much chakra he can almost use umlimited techs. He has his own crazy high level chakra+ Kyubbi's chakra + Sm mode can gain so much chakra itself and he can even use ma and pa to help him out

He has summons especially if he uses ma and pa's genjutsu techs it is a great asset to him + his mini toad army who could be great distractions

he has insane speed and is a sensor so thats a another + for naruto and the fact he has many clones that are extremely fast to help him out. Sm clones+KM clones+ Bm naruto is a hard fight no matter who it is

Hashi's advantages

he has mokuton something that is perfect for supressig kyubi's chakra but naruto is extremely fast. But he is able to create forests in an instant so its hard for even the likes of naruto dodge it

he also has mokuton clones to help him out against naruto and both clones can take hits not only hashi but naruto's as well. they don't go poof as easily as seen in the fight against madara. and no one other than madara has been able to see through his clones so another advantage in the heat of the battle

he has amazing healing capabilities as good as tsunades and has pretty good dfense u saw how many oodma rasengans were used to stop one moktuon tech, its not just regular trees.

Conclusion

Honestly it would be a great fight not easy for either side but i believe naruto has a slight edge. But remember that hashi can have other techs we might not even know about and he may have great sealing abilities etc. So i say the match can go either way

 

[xxSAGExx]

Hashirama cannot:

- Suppress the chakra of a perfect Jinchuuriki.
- Even if he could, he could not catch Naruto with his Mokuton, Naruto is too quick
- Bringer of Darkness technique won't work because Naruto can sense his evil intentions.

Naruto can use BM whilst spamming his 15+ KM and SM clones. What will Hashirama do when 15 KM clones, moving at speeds comparable (almost as high) to FTG, are bearing down on him? Throw in BM Naruto and his TBB and it's over. As well as this, the Naruto we're watching is worn out after fighting for 2 days and he's still fighting on par with Tobi and the 5 bijuu. He would defeat Hashirama, contrary to what some people believe.

That is all.

You should have used these points in your agruement:

-Naruto knows all Sage mode jutsus (even the ones Jiraiya knew that didn't require fire element).

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-Sage mode taijutsus can't be seen unless you were trained to see/sense it so:

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and

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-Still don't know what "that jutsu" is:

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-Kakuza fought Hashirama and lived plus read what Kakashi said:

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-Not all injuries can be healed instantly (even Hashirama has his limits):

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-People seem to forget that Kurama's chakra is now filled with life force that affected Yamato's wood jutsus (A copied of Hashirama's):

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-Look at what Naruto's Kurama mode jutsus do to Hashirama cell infused white zetsus:

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We never seen KM Naruto attack Madara's wood jutsus, Kurama gave Naruto's clone chakra but he didn't go KM so Kishi is saving this for a rainy day.

 

[shinobu sensui]

While I agree he could possibly suppress the fox, He'd have to immobilize naruto to actually do it, and it'd be really hard to do so seeing as Naruto is going to eventually use a few KM clones.

On top of that Narutos speed is such that he may not even have time to attack, and his strength is Outrageous as well, because who else could knock away 5 TBB's in 1 pass, all in the blink of an eye?

ppl can argue that Hashirama would use Mokuton clones, but so what? Every clone divides power, and Naruto CAN make more since he is a tailed beast host, and all of his clones are faster. BM Naruto could get him in the time it takes for BM to wear off. I see no way for Hashirama to win

Hashirama immobilized the full nine tails with his mokuton before he suppressed it's chakra.it was shown in some anime that ppl say was a filler but how else would he do it if he couldn't immobilize the fox, naruto gets his speed from the fox, and the shodai hokage already defeated twice the fox that is in naruto along with ems madara

 

[Retsu]

Hashirama immobilized the full nine tails with his mokuton before he suppressed it's chakra.it was shown in some anime that ppl say was a filler but how else would he do it if he couldn't immobilize the fox, naruto gets his speed from the fox, and the shodai hokage already defeated twice the fox that is in naruto along with ems madara

please note that when Hashirama caught the fox, in that OVA you're talking about, not once did the fox demonstrate any speed, honestly nobody give's it any credit because Madara was never even seen using Susanoo.

The fox is big, and was pretty much Madara's slave, so it's easy to see how the fox was caught. This time the fox and Naruto are rationally thinking to kill Hashirama, and the fox knows how Hashirama can suppress Bijuu chakra, so it's gonna be telling Naruto everything to expect from Hashirama.

Naruto has the advantage with speed, power, and Intel, Hashirama won't know what to expect from Naruto whereas The fox and Naruto have Intel on Hashirama. Hashirama would be surprised when he see's anyone other than himself use Multi shadow clone on a massive scale. Naruto has the upperhand off of his Intel alone.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

You should have used these points in your agruement:

-Naruto knows all Sage mode jutsus (even the ones Jiraiya knew that didn't require fire element).

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-Sage mode taijutsus can't be seen unless you were trained to see/sense it so:

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and

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-Still don't know what "that jutsu" is:

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-Kakuza fought Hashirama and lived plus read what Kakashi said:

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-Not all injuries can be healed instantly (even Hashirama has his limits):

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-People seem to forget that Kurama's chakra is now filled with life force that affected Yamato's wood jutsus (A copied of Hashirama's):

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-Look at what Naruto's Kurama mode jutsus do to Hashirama cell infused white zetsus:

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We never seen KM Naruto attack Madara's wood jutsus, Kurama gave Naruto's clone chakra but he didn't go KM so Kishi is saving this for a rainy day.

Win, +rep.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Win, +rep.

Thanks lol oh plus Naruto was giving chakra from Bijuu 2-7 and Kurama absorbed some of the 8tails chakra when Bee was helping Naruto fight him so add that powerup. This powerup changed something in Naruto that caused Tobi to doubt himself And Naruto used up most of his chakra in training then entered the war then splitted his power among his clones so at full power he would be a beast. I also forgot to mention in the "knowing all sage mode jutsu" part that like Jiraiya (base) Naruto would be able to turn others into frogs with he needed hand signs and control others by entering their shaows, I provide the link in my other post where Pa toad stated that Naruto learned all sage techniques to an extent. This was over 200 chapters ago so I'm sure Naruto would have made those jutsus his like he has done with all of his jutsus.

 

[Nigete]

It's not fair to say Naruto would beat Hashirama when we have next to nothing of Hashiramas abilities. Until Kishi shows us what Hashirama can and can't do, I'll go with the hype and say Hashirama > Naruto.

 

[dhaoracle]

Hashirama immobilized the full nine tails with his mokuton before he suppressed it's chakra.it was shown in some anime that ppl say was a filler but how else would he do it if he couldn't immobilize the fox, naruto gets his speed from the fox, and the shodai hokage already defeated twice the fox that is in naruto along with ems madara

Naruto with Kurama's chakra is much more of a challenge than Hashirama trying to capture Kurama himself. Think about it how it is to try to catch a fly or even a smaller child, they are harder to catch than a bigger person.

Crazy theory but it would be the same way with Naruto with him being much smaller than Kurama and having all of his chakra to move 10x faster than anyone else...