Naruto has two sets of chakra

[SenseiSama]

After Orochimaru sealed the leaking chakra he relied on his own power and after almost killing Sakura he continued to do so.

That means every feat he achieved before KCM (not counting VoTE) was with his own power not the bijuu's, only time he relied on Kurama was when he went into rage mode.




But feats like these are from his own power

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His body was obviously slightly influenced by Kyubi but as an incarnate he always had monster chakra reserves and would've still reached Hashirama's level without the bijuu. Kurama was a bonus that gave him the ability to surpass the 1st Hokage not equal him.

 

[Michael]

Agreed. Naruto FTW! :hooray:

 

[Sageflash]

Of course. Lord Naruto, via being part of the strongest clan ever, already has massive and potent chakra. That chakra was mixing with Kurama's from his birth, hence the whiskers. It was always essentially one pool, only locked because of the seal and people like Pedomaru f*cking with it.

Kakashi explained this during Rasen-Shuriken training, it's why Naruto struggled with chakra control when he was younger.

 

[Brady]

Crazy how when Naruto got in a tight spot, his own power wasn't worth using.

 

[Michael]

Thank you and Naruto Uzumaki FTW!

#Sage

 

[HENI]

Yes. One is his power and the other is not his.

 

[Michael]

Yes. One is his power and the other is not his.

Like sasuke Itachi eyes?

 

[Sageflash]

Crazy how when Naruto got in a tight spot, his own power wasn't worth using.

Yes. One is his power and the other is not his.

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Stay mad, Uchiha soyboys :bdpf:

 

[SenseiSama]

Crazy how when Naruto got in a tight spot, his own power wasn't worth using.

Last I checked Uchiha were the ones that relied on rage mode to be powerful. :lol

Naruto didn't use Kurama's power intentionally until he learned KCM, and yet after that he still wasn't at his full potential until he relied more on SM.

Of course. Lord Naruto, via being part of the strongest clan ever, already has massive and potent chakra. That chakra was mixing with Kurama's from his birth, hence the whiskers. It was always essentially one pool, only locked because of the seal and people like Pedomaru f*cking with it.

Kakashi explained this during Rasen-Shuriken training, it's why Naruto struggled with chakra control when he was younger.

Actually the whiskers are because Kurama's chakra influenced Naruto's during Kushina's pregnancy. Jinchuuriki pass on a tiny portion of the bijuu's power to their children. And now we see it with Boruto and Himawari.

 

[Brady]

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Stay mad, Uchiha soyboys :bdpf:

Sasuke went through the majority of the show, putting his own effort into everything only to get his ass kicked while Naruto constantly saved the day with the power of the Nine-Tails.

Naruto was encouraged to use the Kyuubi while they tried sealing Sasuke's curse-mark. Sasuke spent five years training after the massacre, and Naruto spent those years pulling pranks. Naruto's a moron.

 

[Nick01]

Great thread.

W/ or w/o Kurama's chakra, he'd still be OP.

Naruto wrecks.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Is this seriously coming from a guy who has a big picture of a guy who has never accomplished anything by himself ?

Went to oro for the cursemark
Kabuto personally augmenting his body to enhance speed,strength and resistance to poisons
Itachi letting him win
Obito doing the surgery for him ...you think sasuke was gonna do it it ? lol

Itachi saving him from kabuto

sasuke only ever beat Deidara and barely survived that every fight hes been in he has lost

 

[Styles]

Not really. Once Jiraiya unsealed Orochimaru's seal his and Kurama's chakra was still mixing and being used. So he went back to using "both"

 

[itachi4real]

Reached hashis level without kurama??? Lmaooo thats funny af

 

[Unknnown]

He got his own chakra and Kurama's

 

[Ansatsuken]

SenseiSama

 

[SenseiSama]

Reached hashis level without kurama??? Lmaooo thats funny af

Last time I checked he was already Hashirama's level by the war arc and he was still nowhere near his prime. BSM surpasses Mokuton SM, without Kurama they're equal.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Last time I checked he was already Hashirama's level by the war arc and he was still nowhere near his prime. BSM surpasses Mokuton SM, without Kurama they're equal.

Without Kurama they are equal? What in Naruto's arsenal can he use to take down Shinsuusenju without Kurama? I want to here a fact and not fanfic.

There a reason why Kishi gave Naruto Kurama from the start bcus he knows Naruto only is not enough to be on Hashi level and to face Pain

SM Naruto without Kurama is not equal to SM Hashirama.

I know that you wanted to be fair and wanted to acknowledge all NV characters and dont want to be a bias Fanboy, at least be more reasonable in presenting them. I know before this you're heavy toward Sasuke but at one point of time I saw you changed and try to be fair, its good. Fanboys need to learn from you.

 

[SenseiSama]

Without Kurama they are equal? What in Naruto's arsenal can he use to take down Shinsuusenju without Kurama? I want to here a fact and not fanfic.

There a reason why Kishi gave Naruto Kurama from the start bcus he knows Naruto only is not enough to be on Hashi level.

SM Naruto without Kurama is not equal to SM Hashirama.

I know that you wanted to be fair and wanted to acknowledge all NV characters and dont want to be a bias Fanboy, at least be more reasonable in presenting them. I know before this you're heavy toward Sasuke but at one point of time I saw you changed and try to be fair, its good. Fanboys need to learn from you.

Mokuton isn't as OP as you think, he did this using shadow clones of a shadow clone

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And unlike Madara who is controlling a bijuu with dojutsu Naruto has his power fused with the bijuu, he can spam bigger and stronger bijuudama if he wants, this is a 16 year old boy that fought for 3 days with almost no experience using KCM.


The fact that everyone compares a 16 year old to someone in his prime says that Naruto would have eventually surpassed Hashirama. BSM was never equal to SM, it surpasses it because it's the closest chakra mode to RSM.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Mokuton isn't as OP as you think, he did this using shadow clones of a shadow clone

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And unlike Madara who is controlling a bijuu with dojutsu Naruto has his power fused with the bijuu, he can spam bigger and stronger bijuudama if he wants, this is a 16 year old boy that fought for 3 days with almost no experience using KCM.


The fact that everyone compares a 16 year old to someone in his prime says that Naruto would have eventually surpassed Hashirama. BSM was never equal to SM, it surpasses it because it's the closest chakra mode to RSM.

You said "without Kurama they are equal" what's that mean?

I dont talking about BSM and SM Hashi here but the only 'point' you previously stated. SM Naruto without Kurama far from equaling SM Hashirama.

You only can show that one panel where Naruto clones countering inferior Mokuton roots or branches but you failed to put inside you mind other Hashirama's Arsenal that not all Clones can counter easily. Mokuton pollen, Mokujin, Mokuryu, Hashirama's wood clones that's more durable than Shadow Clones, Superior Mokuton attack etc.

You think SM Naruto without Kurama can counter all that easily when Naruto have a hard time fighting Pain?

There a reason why Madara that is Hashi's equal still needs Kurama.

Dont trolling dude