[Discussion] Naruto has more ENERGY than Kaguya?

[B00m]

In recent chapters it seems that Kaguya has a chakra/energy limit as stated by Black Zetsu:

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While Naruto has his own constant supply thanks to being the host of the bijuu, which Kurama has shown to be able to gather Nature Energy:

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In short Naruto has more energy gathering options, mainly nature energy. Even after multiple rasengan variants and hundreds of shadow clones he has yet to show fatigue.

Kaguya seems to be taking her energy by force rather than receiving it through some sort of meditation or natural means. I almost think she has become so obsessed with her goal that she is going against it (changing landscapes to fit her means, sub doing every living creature and taking their energy/life without their consent). I'm beginning to think much like Madara, Kaguya is over confident with how much power she has, but again you could call "plot".

 

[Sonic The Hedgehog]

Doubt 9 Bijuus all can gather Sage Energy.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

No, Sasuke could not believe that someone could have as much chakra as Kaguya.

 

[Genjin]

9 bijuus gathering chakra for him is pretty OPAF.

 

[B00m]

Doubt 9 Bijuus all can gather Sage Energy.

Why not? Kurama has been shown to do it? They're not just mindless beasts, which has been shown progressively through the series. Ex: When fighting Obito who made the plan to allow Kakashi to beat up on Obito? Kurama. Who borrowed Naruto chakra to basically kill Madara along with the tree? Son Goku.

No, Sasuke could not believe that someone could have as much chakra as Kaguya.

That's just his observation, and right after she came to existence. Who's to say she doesn't have a finite amount of energy? While Naruto till now has shown he nearly has infinite. I'm not saying Naruto has more energy I guess but a longer lasting source of it. Although travel/making dimension is a huge task, BZ is worried about her, while Naruto breaks through landscapes and makes a hundred shadow clones.

 

[Joon]

They cannot gather nature energy. They can only replenish their chakra. They only aid in making Naruto gather in nature energy faster if he was in Bijuu Mode and Sage Mode combine.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I was actually surprised Black Zetsu is saying not to use chakra too much. Shows Kaguya has a problem.

 

[Joon]

I was actually surprised Black Zetsu is saying not to use chakra too much. Shows Kaguya has a problem.

She was cray, cray from the beginning. Yelling "All Chakra is Mine". I see why the Sage and his brother had to put her down. Anyway, she is power-hungry or consumed by power. Black Zetsu is like her voice of reason.

 

[B00m]

They cannot gather nature energy. They can only replenish their chakra. They only aid in making Naruto gather in nature energy faster if he was in Bijuu Mode and Sage Mode combine.

Ok, but they're are seven of them, each with huge chakra reserves themselves. I know that, that's kind of the point of the thread, with all their help he can constantly be in SM and obviously BM, you could say the 2 now coincide with each other.

EDIT: In my OP what is Kurama doing then? I thought that was a meditative stance for gathering natural energy? And aren't the bijuu natural energy to begin with? Hence why they have elemental abilities?

 

[Divine Uchiha]

No, Sasuke could not believe that someone could have as much chakra as Kaguya.

Did he read the "until that time" part.Off topic I have a feeling that time is gonna be Badass.

 

[Joon]

Ok, but they're are seven of them, each with huge chakra reserves themselves. I know that, that's kind of the point of the thread, with all their help he can constantly be in SM and obviously BM, you could say the 2 now coincide with each other.

EDIT: In my OP what is Kurama doing then? I thought that was a meditative stance for gathering natural energy? And aren't the bijuu natural energy to begin with? Hence why they have elemental abilities?

I don't write/draw the Manga. :|

You really need read up on Naruto:

The Tailed-Beast (Bijuu) are living forms of chakra, sometimes referred to as "Chakra Monsters", giving them immense reserves of especially strong chakra that far outmatches most shinobi. -Wiki

Them having elemental traits could be based on the myths the creatures were created and villages the Jinchuuriki held from. IDK.

 

[B00m]

I don't write/draw the Manga. :|

You really need read up on Naruto:

The Tailed-Beast (Bijuu) are living forms of chakra, sometimes referred to as "Chakra Monsters", giving them immense reserves of especially strong chakra that far outmatches most shinobi. -Wiki

Them having elemental traits could be based on the myths the creatures were created and villages the Jinchuuriki held from. IDK.

I was implying it's the same stance that Naruto and his clones have while gather natural energy, which leaves me to believe Kurama, if not all of the can gather chakra constantly.

And I know they are chakra monsters, and that's one of my points in claiming Naruto has more energy/chakra then Kaguya. The other basically being since they are living I don't see why they can't gather chakra for him, if they can't well like we said they are made up of it and there are seven of them. Each having more chakra the more tails they have. Plus their chakra never dissipates completely, they haven't been shown to be completely destroyed or die due to "chakra exhaustion", Naruto always has them.

And I'm not positive about the elemental traits either exactly but many have shown some elemental traits.

 

[NeutralChaos]

Both Naruto and Kaguya have a finite supply. Naruto is a weakling by himself, so he has others store up chakra for him while he's on the front line. Kaguya's limit though, is far above Naruto; though he generates chakra faster.

 

[Cael]

Both Naruto and Kaguya have a finite supply. Naruto is a weakling by himself, so he has others store up chakra for him while he's on the front line. Kaguya's limit though, is far above Naruto; though he generates chakra faster.

what's the difference between kaguya and naruto source of powers, each of them got it from something . kaguya from the 10 tails and the chakra of the ninja's

and naruto from the bijuu's + sage of six path power.

so why is naruto a weakling and kaguya is not ?

 

[NeutralChaos]

what's the difference between kaguya and naruto source of powers, each of them got it from something . kaguya from the 10 tails and the chakra of the ninja's

and naruto from the bijuu's + sage of six path power.

so why is naruto a weakling and kaguya is not ?

Kaguya, so far as we know, is actually apart of the ten-tails, meaning all chakra is essentially hers in the first place. Naruto and the others are 10 completely separate entities.

 

[Cael]

Kaguya, so far as we know, is actually apart of the ten-tails, meaning all chakra is essentially hers in the first place. Naruto and the others are 10 completely separate entities.

I thought she ate the fruit
so why does seperate entity make naruto weak ? when kaguya has 1 entity with the same amount of power.

 

[Divine Uchiha]

No remember when the ten tails was revived and the charka sensing sphere.Kaguya is the Earth and naruto and Sasuke are like two moons.

 

[NeutralChaos]

I thought she ate the fruit
so why does seperate entity make naruto weak ? when kaguya has 1 entity with the same amount of power.

It was stated by Zetsu or someone else that Kaguya actually is or became a part of the beast itself. This means that all chakra originally belonged to her, and she holds the highest chakra capacity. Naruto has nine other separate beings within him, meaning that not all the chakra he uses is his. While Naruto himself is homage level, he isn't comparable to Sasuke. With the beasts, he does become equal to Sasuke. Chakra-wise, he surpasses Sasuke by some, but remember, Kaguya has everyone else's chakra, along with the ten-tails(still all hers originally), as Naruto only has small segments.

 

[Divine Uchiha]

The reason why it appears to be so is because Naruto has the tailed beasts refilling his charka pool.

 

[Cael]

It was stated by Zetsu or someone else that Kaguya actually is or became a part of the beast itself. This means that all chakra originally belonged to her, and she holds the highest chakra capacity. Naruto has nine other separate beings within him, meaning that not all the chakra he uses is his. While Naruto himself is homage level, he isn't comparable to Sasuke. With the beasts, he does become equal to Sasuke. Chakra-wise, he surpasses Sasuke by some, but remember, Kaguya has everyone else's chakra, along with the ten-tails(still all hers originally), as Naruto only has small segments.

ok first.
1.Kaguya was said to eat the fruit, she might be part of the 10 tails but it's most likely because she ate the fruit of the god tree. The fruit containing all the chakra.
2. the chakra kaguya uses does not belong to her, it belong to the god tree
3. sasuke power stop at his Mangekou sharingan, all power he has from there has come from someone else, itachi and the sage. He is best on the level of naruto who is sage mode.
4. Naruto and sasuke might be equals, but unless i see some stuff from sasuke, I am going to say naruto is above sasuke


5. Kaguya is not the god tree, so no. chakra does not belong to her, all chakra belong to that tree, maybe you need to re read again