Naruto =failure

[Uchicha Macho]

Remove sharingan, remove all the variations of jutsu base off Kakashi's Chidori, remove curse mark, and what we had? You see the stupid in that logic?
And why would we remove the forbidden Scroll.Naruto learned Shadow Clone Jutsu by himself without anyone's help, you just can't take that away because he learn it from a scroll.By that same dumb logic, Sasuke alone with all the other shinobis in naruto's class wouldn't be shinobis since they were all taught jutsu's from a sensei.

sharigan is a bloodline ability not something granted unto sasuke.He born with it from is family and it a rarity to get the eyes

 

[Owarij]

Remove sharingan, remove all the variations of jutsu base off Kakashi's Chidori, remove curse mark, and what we had? You see the stupid in that logic?
And why would we remove the forbidden Scroll.Naruto learned Shadow Clone Jutsu by himself without anyone's help, you just can't take that away because he learn it from a scroll.By that same dumb logic, Sasuke alone with all the other shinobis in naruto's class wouldn't be shinobis since they were all taught jutsu's from a sensei.

ugh ok let naruto keep his shadow clones , remove kyuubi , remove sasuke's chidori, he keeps his sharingan cause he was born with that, it's in his blood, and what do we get still a genius ninja , i am not arguing who's better, i was just replying to someones idiotic post

 

[DexterMorgan909]

Dear OP, you failed in this thread, naruto and sasuke are equals no matter what you say, think, w/e, plz don't get mad just because sasuke is not the strongest character ok? :3

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Well steeling the forbidden scroll was all him, he'd still have his shadow clones. Without some form of direction or teaching no shinobi would amount to much. Even before the graduation exams Sasuke had direction from his father and brother in learning his clans fire techniques and learning the techniques he had up to that point...

What I'm saying is you can't subtract the teachings he recieved from others...you can subtract the kyuubi but that would still leave him where he was at pre-KM through the years. The only outside power granted to Naruto was the Kyuubi. Sasuke's outside power came from Oro first (curse mark) and then the implanting of Itachi's eyes to achieve EMS...I would say that MS is an iffy on whether or not he achieved it by himself or if it was granted to him. I don't believe he would've awakened it had Tobi not revealed the truth about Itachi but I can't say for sure.

the method to get ms nd ems are the uchiha way of getting power up

 

[YoItsJo]

-sigh- This is an argument between a Sasuke fans and Naruto defenders..

They're both main characters. Their bond makes the series. Can't some of the people on this thread just agree that they have both needed help, both had to be taught things or sometimes even handed them?

They're two sides of the same coin. A coin will have the same circumference and surface area on either side -__-

There is no "Naruto is a failure!" or "Sasuke is a failure!" They're one in the same; if one sucks they both have to suck because the same things have happened with them when it comes to battles and training. But really - they're both cool, in my opinion.

 

[KillaCam]

sasuke will have obtain ms without itachi help because how itachi did get ms if he did not kill shusi and how did kakashi did also obtain ms?

sasuke is an sharigan user eventually he will copy alot of jutsu from his opponent and will obtain similar skill or better skills ( technically he did not need kakashi or orichimaru)

if kakashi learn lightning jutsu by some method sasuke will do the same

:flaw:

 

[IntrovertedKittenNinja]

ugh ok let naruto keep his shadow clones , remove kyuubi , remove sasuke's chidori, he keeps his sharingan cause he was born with that, it's in his blood, and what do we get still a genius ninja , i am not arguing who's better, i was just replying to someones idiotic post

so sharingan was passed down to him from his parents... so was naruto's kyuubi..

where do we draw the line with this? Lol

it's irrelevant to argue by removing things that were "passed down" to naruto or sasuke. the only way to really argue who's better correctly is by comparing what they are NOW. besides, we can't even do THAT because we don't know what EMS can do. So all these "EMS Sasuke vs. ______" threads are pointless. Same pretty much with "KM Naruto vs. ______" Because we haven't seen him use his full power with that either.

 

[Hyperion]

Whoever says Naruto is stronger than Sasuke is an idiot!

 

[IntrovertedKittenNinja]

Whoever says Naruto is stronger than Sasuke is an idiot!

It's the same for the reverse... we don't know the full capabilities of either yet... -.-

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Whoever says Naruto is stronger than Sasuke is an idiot!

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.

 

[Hyperion]

OP failed when he tried to compare Naruto's failures to Sasuke.

Sasuke however atm is Stronger than Naruto!

Not to take from Naruto, he's in love with Sasuke!

 

[Reborn]

the method to get ms nd ems are the uchiha way of getting power up

Which is why there are only two left in existance...Just because it's their way doesn't mean it isn't the easy way out...

 

[Exaar]

OP failed when he tried to compare Naruto's failures to Sasuke.

Sasuke however atm is Stronger than Naruto!

Not to take from Naruto, he's in love with Sasuke!

How is sasuke stronger?

All we have seen him do is stab white zetzu. Nothing special

 

[Uchicha Macho]

so sharingan was passed down to him from his parents... so was naruto's kyuubi..

where do we draw the line with this? Lol

it's irrelevant to argue by removing things that were "passed down" to naruto or sasuke. the only way to really argue who's better correctly is by comparing what they are NOW. besides, we can't even do THAT because we don't know what EMS can do. So all these "EMS Sasuke vs. ______" threads are pointless. Same pretty much with "KM Naruto vs. ______" Because we haven't seen him use his full power with that either.

minato seal the kyuubi onto naruto
we saw naruto use his km to

form extra hands
give him speed booster
bjuu dama is a KM skill
he also was able to make shadow clone with can make other shadown clone etc lol

 

[Hyperion]

How is sasuke stronger?

All we have seen him do is stab white zetzu. Nothing special

Nothing Special from Naruto either.
Don't get me wrong, Naruto loves Sasuke and thats he turned down Sakura for Sasuke.

Jokes aside. Sasuke is leagues ahead of Naruto, but I'll save for explanation for the search tool.

Naruto being a failure makes this manga better. If he were a shinobi that was a complete failure and never conquered them, this site would be called Bleachbase.
I'd rather have Naruto fail, than have things given to him. He's a hard worker.

 

[Exaar]

Nothing Special from Naruto either.
Don't get me wrong, Naruto loves Sasuke and thats he turned down Sakura for Sasuke.

Jokes aside. Sasuke is leagues ahead of Naruto, but I'll save for explanation for the search tool.

Naruto being a failure makes this manga better. If he were a shinobi that was a complete failure and never conquered them, this site would be called Bleachbase.
I'd rather have Naruto fail, than have things given to him. He's a hard worker.

Yes nothing special from naruto. Just beating Kage level Edo's with shadow clonesU_U

At the moment Km naruto Has much more feats than EMS sasuke(duh).

So saying Sasuke is more powerful is just stupid at this point, or You're just a fanboy

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Nothing Special from Naruto either.
Don't get me wrong, Naruto loves Sasuke and thats he turned down Sakura for Sasuke.

Jokes aside. Sasuke is leagues ahead of Naruto, but I'll save for explanation for the search tool.

Naruto being a failure makes this manga better. If he were a shinobi that was a complete failure and never conquered them, this site would be called Bleachbase.
I'd rather have Naruto fail, than have things given to him. He's a hard worker.

It's seem you love finding ways to say absolutely nothing more then naruto loves sasuke.

 

[IntrovertedKittenNinja]

minato seal the kyuubi onto naruto
we saw naruto use his km to

form extra hands
give him speed booster
bjuu dama is a KM skill
he also was able to make shadow clone with can make other shadown clone etc lol

But we haven't seen him fight a full on drawn out battle with all his strength in KM. Look at the fights he's been in using KM. They're all relatively quick skirmishes and poof, onto the next battlefield. He hasn't even properly used bijudama yet.

That's like saying Chuck Norris fought a few bums on the street. We now realize his true power.

If in the next chapters we see Sasuke pwn the shit out of like Raikage or Kakashi or something in two chapters each without breaking a sweat, wouldn't you be offended if I said we already know his full strength?

That's why I'm saying it's pointless to compare the two right now. We don't know the full capabilities of either.

 

[Hyperion]

Yes nothing special from naruto. Just beating Kage level Edo's with shadow clonesU_U

At the moment Km naruto Has much more feats than EMS sasuke(duh).

So saying Sasuke is more powerful is just stupid at this point, or You're just a fanboy

Noob PLEASE! :flaw:
If anyone hates Sasuke on here, I'M THAT PERSON!
But until Sasuke has beaten Naruto, Naruto is on Sasuke's nuts.

Beating Kage Level Edo's with shadow clones? Really? That was special to you? NARUTO FANBITCH!

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

minato seal the kyuubi onto naruto
we saw naruto use his km to

form extra hands
give him speed booster
bjuu dama is a KM skill
he also was able to make shadow clone with can make other shadown clone etc lol

IF a uchiha didn't attack the konoha 16 years ago....naruto would be strong as he is right now if not stronger and sasuke would be strong if not stronger since itachi would teach sasuke and minato would teach naruto and you saying kyuubi isn't blood treat....SMH when kushina had gotten old i know naruto would have gotten the kyuubi since he is a half Uzumaki.....Naruto = sasuke.....Sasuke was given the curse mark and when he lost that he got MS.....and if you say thats the uchiha wayy.....than getting the 9 tails is the uzumaki wayy