Naruto failed to achieve his most important goal.

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Naruto did not save Sasuke from darkness and this is very important. So much of the series was invested into this plot element.most of the series was about it and it was hyped up so much I couldn't wait to see how Naruto was going to bring Sasuke back.

Despite how unlikely it seemed I accctually believe he would do it.

But he failed to do that out of all the things he has said he would do, this was the most important one and he failed to do it.

Remember all those speaches about how he would save Sasuke, well look he failed all that was WASTED THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THE SERIES. NARUTO FAILED TO DO THE WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO SEVERAL TIMES IN THE SERIES.


NOT GOOD KISHI.
 

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Hmm don't think that it matters that much to the plot anymore.
 

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He belongs on the top 10 list. I don't care where. But he is top 10 material.
Once again I will explain why he is so powerful. The third man to share the title "God of Shinobi" alongside 2 beasts (Hashirama Senju and the Sage)

- - He is often referred to as "History's Strongest" and a "Genius"
- 「プロフェッサー●[...]里にある全ての術を知り尽くし、かつそれらを自在に使いこなすことに由来。」
- Named "The Professor: [...] The origin [of this nickname] lies in him knowing thoroughly all the jutsu that exist in the village and also being able to use them easily at will.'
- Anyone who is trusted by Hashirama and Tobirama to protect the village during the wars is bound to be powerful. It's common sense that he is worthy of the title Hokage since it was given to him by 2 monsters of Hokages. Learning the skills and knowledge from the 1st and 2nd, Hiruzen was able to get the village through 3 Great Shinobi World Wars. Having the longest reign of Hokage. 40+ Years.
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-An Old 5% Hiruzen sealing both 25% Edo Hokages with clones in complete darkness. Don't care how weak the Hokages were. Hiruzen was in a far off worse condition to fight. This is an excellent feat.
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-A battle exhausted Hiruzen with a part of his soul left easily disarming Orochimaru and speed owned him behind his blind side to catch him in close range. You can easily see with these scans that Orochimaru was actually pushed to try at the last second and looked quite frightened. This is THE Orochimaru who without arms was playing around with 4 Tailed Naruto.
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Using these scans, It would be possible that if Orochimaru didn't have his Edos, he would have been easily killed by Hiruzen.

- While having the sword of Kusangi pierced through him, Hiruzen was still able to hold Orochimaru's soul with the Reaper for an 1 hour long showing extreme willpower!
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-Speed feats are beautiful keeping up with Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time.
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-The Hokages are easily praised by both Naruto and Sasuke. The statement obviously includes Hiruzen. By Sasuke's own admission. " Looks like they're not just talk after all" should be enough.
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Can use all of Konoha's non KKG techniques which includes the Ino–Shika–Chō with Kage Bunshins.
Despite many on the Base saying that he cannot, Manga disagrees as Orochimaru (Hiruzen student) states his ability for "Knowing and being able to use all the jutsu that exist in the Leaf"
This includes mastery over all 5 elements to a godly extent and mastery of all forms of shinobi combat.
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Proof. Here Hiruzen is clearly able to use the Inuzuka Clan's enhanced sense of smell as shown in this scan.
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Therefore proving that Hiruzen is able to use all the techniques in the village which includes the famous Ino–Shika–Chō which can be easily used by Hiruzen with clones. =D
-Prime Hiruzen can completely negate all Ninjutsu using Technique Neutralizer.
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Example of what would happen.
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-Kabuto who has spied in many various countries of the Shinobi world even said that he was the strongest out of the 5 Kage despite his old age!
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Danzo admitted inferiority to Hiruzen despite having the cells of Hashirama, Izanagi and Kotoamatsukami from the eye of Shisui.
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The Solo King believes in the 3rd's power to protect Sasuke. Only someone whom Itachi respects is enough.
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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は 特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� � �言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��だったんだぞ!」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �形 容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.


DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� �� �� �� �� � �血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� ��より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
 

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Your jumping to conclusions too soon
 

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He belongs on the top 10 list. I don't care where. But he is top 10 material.
Once again I will explain why he is so powerful. The third man to share the title "God of Shinobi" alongside 2 beasts (Hashirama Senju and the Sage)

- - He is often referred to as "History's Strongest" and a "Genius"
- 「プロフェッサー●[...]里にある全ての術を知り尽くし、かつそれらを自在に使いこなすことに由来。」
- Named "The Professor: [...] The origin [of this nickname] lies in him knowing thoroughly all the jutsu that exist in the village and also being able to use them easily at will.'
- Anyone who is trusted by Hashirama and Tobirama to protect the village during the wars is bound to be powerful. It's common sense that he is worthy of the title Hokage since it was given to him by 2 monsters of Hokages. Learning the skills and knowledge from the 1st and 2nd, Hiruzen was able to get the village through 3 Great Shinobi World Wars. Having the longest reign of Hokage. 40+ Years.
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-An Old 5% Hiruzen sealing both 25% Edo Hokages with clones in complete darkness. Don't care how weak the Hokages were. Hiruzen was in a far off worse condition to fight. This is an excellent feat.
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-A battle exhausted Hiruzen with a part of his soul left easily disarming Orochimaru and speed owned him behind his blind side to catch him in close range. You can easily see with these scans that Orochimaru was actually pushed to try at the last second and looked quite frightened. This is THE Orochimaru who without arms was playing around with 4 Tailed Naruto.
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Using these scans, It would be possible that if Orochimaru didn't have his Edos, he would have been easily killed by Hiruzen.

- While having the sword of Kusangi pierced through him, Hiruzen was still able to hold Orochimaru's soul with the Reaper for an 1 hour long showing extreme willpower!
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-Speed feats are beautiful keeping up with Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time.
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-The Hokages are easily praised by both Naruto and Sasuke. The statement obviously includes Hiruzen. By Sasuke's own admission. " Looks like they're not just talk after all" should be enough.
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Can use all of Konoha's non KKG techniques which includes the Ino–Shika–Chō with Kage Bunshins.
Despite many on the Base saying that he cannot, Manga disagrees as Orochimaru (Hiruzen student) states his ability for "Knowing and being able to use all the jutsu that exist in the Leaf"
This includes mastery over all 5 elements to a godly extent and mastery of all forms of shinobi combat.
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Proof. Here Hiruzen is clearly able to use the Inuzuka Clan's enhanced sense of smell as shown in this scan.
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Therefore proving that Hiruzen is able to use all the techniques in the village which includes the famous Ino–Shika–Chō which can be easily used by Hiruzen with clones. =D
-Prime Hiruzen can completely negate all Ninjutsu using Technique Neutralizer.
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Example of what would happen.
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-Kabuto who has spied in many various countries of the Shinobi world even said that he was the strongest out of the 5 Kage despite his old age!
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Danzo admitted inferiority to Hiruzen despite having the cells of Hashirama, Izanagi and Kotoamatsukami from the eye of Shisui.
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The Solo King believes in the 3rd's power to protect Sasuke. Only someone whom Itachi respects is enough.
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Believe in the Hype!
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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は 特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� � �言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��だったんだぞ!」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �形 容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.


DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� �� �� �� �� � �血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� ��より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

Dat wank tho.

OT: Yes, he only failed.
 

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He belongs on the top 10 list. I don't care where. But he is top 10 material.
Once again I will explain why he is so powerful. The third man to share the title "God of Shinobi" alongside 2 beasts (Hashirama Senju and the Sage)

- - He is often referred to as "History's Strongest" and a "Genius"
- 「プロフェッサー●[...]里にある全ての術を知り尽くし、かつそれらを自在に使いこなすことに由来。」
- Named "The Professor: [...] The origin [of this nickname] lies in him knowing thoroughly all the jutsu that exist in the village and also being able to use them easily at will.'
- Anyone who is trusted by Hashirama and Tobirama to protect the village during the wars is bound to be powerful. It's common sense that he is worthy of the title Hokage since it was given to him by 2 monsters of Hokages. Learning the skills and knowledge from the 1st and 2nd, Hiruzen was able to get the village through 3 Great Shinobi World Wars. Having the longest reign of Hokage. 40+ Years.
You must be registered for see images

-An Old 5% Hiruzen sealing both 25% Edo Hokages with clones in complete darkness. Don't care how weak the Hokages were. Hiruzen was in a far off worse condition to fight. This is an excellent feat.
You must be registered for see images

-A battle exhausted Hiruzen with a part of his soul left easily disarming Orochimaru and speed owned him behind his blind side to catch him in close range. You can easily see with these scans that Orochimaru was actually pushed to try at the last second and looked quite frightened. This is THE Orochimaru who without arms was playing around with 4 Tailed Naruto.
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Using these scans, It would be possible that if Orochimaru didn't have his Edos, he would have been easily killed by Hiruzen.

- While having the sword of Kusangi pierced through him, Hiruzen was still able to hold Orochimaru's soul with the Reaper for an 1 hour long showing extreme willpower!
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-Speed feats are beautiful keeping up with Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time.
You must be registered for see images

-The Hokages are easily praised by both Naruto and Sasuke. The statement obviously includes Hiruzen. By Sasuke's own admission. " Looks like they're not just talk after all" should be enough.
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Can use all of Konoha's non KKG techniques which includes the Ino–Shika–Chō with Kage Bunshins.
Despite many on the Base saying that he cannot, Manga disagrees as Orochimaru (Hiruzen student) states his ability for "Knowing and being able to use all the jutsu that exist in the Leaf"
This includes mastery over all 5 elements to a godly extent and mastery of all forms of shinobi combat.
You must be registered for see images
Proof. Here Hiruzen is clearly able to use the Inuzuka Clan's enhanced sense of smell as shown in this scan.
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Therefore proving that Hiruzen is able to use all the techniques in the village which includes the famous Ino–Shika–Chō which can be easily used by Hiruzen with clones. =D
-Prime Hiruzen can completely negate all Ninjutsu using Technique Neutralizer.
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Example of what would happen.
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-Kabuto who has spied in many various countries of the Shinobi world even said that he was the strongest out of the 5 Kage despite his old age!
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Danzo admitted inferiority to Hiruzen despite having the cells of Hashirama, Izanagi and Kotoamatsukami from the eye of Shisui.
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The Solo King believes in the 3rd's power to protect Sasuke. Only someone whom Itachi respects is enough.
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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は 特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� � �言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��だったんだぞ!」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �形 容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.


DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� �� �� �� �� � �血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� ��より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

Do you just spam this crap everywhere?

To OP - I think it makes Naruto more grounded and fallible. Besides, who knows how Sasuke will end up/
 

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Man this is so wrong how you gonna save someone from darkness

like you wan't ice scream and you''r friend is telling you gonna eat something else

like going holiday somewhere and you'r friend is telling you that he will bring you back

my point is : it's he's personal opinion and he choose the darkness and now it's not naruto's bussines what way will walk sasuke XD
 

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lol sasukes real dream is still hidden
i wouldnt be surprised if he leaps into darkness once more ... Then naruto will save him
 

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Man this is so wrong how you gonna save someone from darkness

like you wan't ice scream and you''r friend is telling you gonna eat something else

like going holiday somewhere and you'r friend is telling you that he will bring you back

my point is : it's he's personal opinion and he choose the darkness and now it's not naruto's bussines what way will walk sasuke XD

Sorry, but your grammar is horrible.
Also if it is such a "stupid goal" like eating "ice scream", then why did Naruto wanted to achieve it?
 

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The magna is not over yet there is still time
 

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Sorry, but your grammar is horrible.
Also if it is such a "stupid goal" like eating "ice scream", then why did Naruto wanted to achieve it?

Man i am trying to say that it's sasuke's choice to walk that kind of path and you can't do a shit about that
 

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Sasuke hasn't been saved. He's still selfish thinking about his clan, is heavily implied to have ulterior motives and is planning on killing Naruto.
 

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Hmm don't think that it matters that much to the plot anymore.




It actually does.. He was prepared to die.. which basically means he already gave up, he was ready to die with Sasuke.
And I think it's pathetic he suddenly picked up his dream of being hokage the second he noticed that Sasuke wanted to
become one.

Since these are Naruto's own words : ''How can I ever become hokage if I can't save 1 friend.''

 

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why should naruto still convince some confuse and complex guy ?

Naruto left sauce alone after they met at bridge.

Naruto now have bigger goal which is to save the world from madara/kaguya

Sasuke is just a useless pawn which naruto is currently using against madara U_U
 

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why should naruto still convince some confuse and complex guy ?

Naruto left sauce alone after they met at bridge.

Naruto now have bigger goal which is to save the world from madara/kaguya

Sasuke is just a useless pawn which naruto is currently using against madara U_U
 

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Sasuke isn't saved. The Hokage didn't save him, Sasuke just changed his goal after he listened to what they had to say. He's helping the alliance because he doesn't want Madara to succeed, because it would mean that his plans will fail. After Madara is gone, Sasuke will execute his plan.

If Sasuke was saved, Kishi wouldn't have kept Sasuke's intentions a mystery and he and Naruto wouldn't have had to fight.
 

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This is a premature judgement. Let the story end first then size up Naruto's impact on Sasuke.
 
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