Naruto didn't need Kushina to beat Kurama.

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Many people discredit Naruto's feat of beating Kurama because of Kushina's appearance and assistance. What these people fail to acknowledge however, is that emotions were the only reason why Kushina had to get involved. When it comes to actual physical combat, Naruto had Kurama beaten before Kushina got involved. Go reread the chapters if you must. You will see that Naruto had already hit Kurama with a rasenshuriken and a nice body slam. Kurama was on his back and Naruto was already pulling out the chakara. Kushina only came in when Kurama's hatred (aka emotions) started to over take Naruto. Take emotions out of the picture and Naruto pulls out the chakara then and there (no Kushina involvement).
 

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Kushina simply restrained Kurama, Naruto did everything else.
 

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They can't discredit it though they can be butthurt about it though. Just like he got over his own hatred he would have done the same with Kurama's as well. Only reason that didn't happen was because Kishimoto wanted Naruto to meet his mother.
 
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Exactly he was already about to beat him until kurama used his negatives emotions ,of course his mother helped but that doesn't mean it would have maked a diference had she not helped.

But then watch sasuke fans coming and discredit the feat saying that it wasn't in the physical world so it doesn't count :sdo:
 

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If it wasn't for Kurama he wouldn't have learned Rasenshuriken.

Rather you want to accept it or not Kurama had Naruto beat if it wasn't for his mothers help. Negative emotion control or not Naruto was defeated
 

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If it wasn't for Kurama he wouldn't have learned Rasenshuriken.

Rather you want to accept it or not Kurama had Naruto beat if it wasn't for his mothers help. Negative emotion control or not Naruto was defeated

If it wasn't for Kurama being inside Naruto, he wouldn't have fought Kurama in the first place.

No, it was not an actual battle ability or tactic of Kurama's to release that hatred. That just comes as a natural result of pulling out chakara. The same happened with Rikudou Obito
 
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If it wasn't for Kurama being inside Naruto, he wouldn't have fought Kurama in the first place.

Always with the excuses.

Naruto was going to lose without her help, emotionally and then ultimately he would lose physically.
 

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Always with the excuses.

Naruto was going to lose without her help, emotionally and then ultimately he would lose physically.

The quote you replied to isn't an excuse, it's simply a reply to the other guy's statement "Naruto wouldn't have rasenshuriken if it wasn't for Kurama".

As for the hatred, read my edited quote.
 

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Lol @ Naruto faps thinking he was gone win. Keep fantasizing.
 
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ok, that's for Kushina's help
What abouut Killer b's help ?
Naruto was also doing a good job against Kaguya, but does that mean he can actually defeat her ? no, he was eventually going to be overpowerd and killed, same goes for nine tails.
Naruto simply isn't powerful enough to defeat the Kyuubi
 

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Kushina was a huge reason as to why Naruto was able to take Kurama's chakra.
 

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ok, that's for Kushina's help
What abouut Killer b's help ?
Naruto was also doing a good job against Kaguya, but does that mean he can actually defeat her ? no, he was eventually going to be overpowerd and killed, same goes for nine tails.
Naruto simply isn't powerful enough to defeat the Kyuubi

It's not the same as with Kaguya. Naruto didn't actually have Kaguya down for the count like he did Kurama. Naruto actually had Kurama flat on his back and he was taking the chakara.
Emotion brought in Kushina's assistance, not a lack of battle power​.

Kushina was a huge reason as to why Naruto was able to take Kurama's chakra.

Yeah because of emotions.
 
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It's not the same as with Kaguya. Naruto didn't actually have Kaguya down for the count like he did Kurama. Naruto actually had Kurama flat on his back and he was taking the chakara.
Emotion brought in Kushina's assistance, not a lack of battle power​.

Just because the kyuubi was on the ground doesn't mean he is defeated, he obviously could still fight. and without Kushina and Killer Bee's help Naruto certainly can't win. that's what Naruto is about he reaches the top through cooperation with his friends unlike Sasuke.
 

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I just came here to say I hope you get banned for spewing such fallacious drivel
 

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The only reason the battle lasted longer than 10 seconds is because:

-Kurama was gimped.
-B saved Naruto from the first Bijuu Dama.
 

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No he needed her help. Even Hagoromo said he needs help like Ashura.
 
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