[Theory] Naruto Databook would be accurate if Kishi make some changes into that [READ FIRST]

[KCMNaruto]

Hi guys, I would like to discuss about Naruto Databook stats =D

First RULES:

IMPORTANT:

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• Please be open minded and use reasons in argument
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Ok, so after reading rules let's go straight to talk about Databook stats

Ninjutsu:
Genjutsu:
Taijutsu:
Knowledge:
Strength:
Speed:
Stamina:
Seals:

Ok, so as above I listed these are eight categories which Databook stats give us insight into Character skills.

However all we know that Databook stats are not accurate when we judge which character is stronger than another.
Instead Databook stats give us only knowledge in which category Shinobi is good and which is his/her weakness. In short it allows us to state that One charcter is well rounded Shinobi while another is only good in one category for example.

so, question appear... What would you change or like for Kishi to change in Databook to poperly judge character position in top list of the strongest characters ?

Here is mine idea, what could make Databook stats more accurate:

CHANGES WHICH I COULD INTRODUCE:

• Extend Databook stats from eight(8) categories to fiveteen(15) categories.
• Add another scale to be able differ Naruto character stats better from each other:
  
  - Shinobi(Shinobi scale is for shinobi, who's talent and expertise is still reachable by the most of characters): 1-5
  - Super Shinobi(Super Shinobi scale is for shinobi who's talent, expertise in each category goes beyond shinobi scale): 6-10

For example:

Ninjutsu: 6 for Nagato (Madara and Hashirama could have even 7 maybe)
Taijutsu: 6 or 7 for Gai, Lee
Genjutsu: 6 for Madara and Obito and 7 for Itachi
Inteligence: 6 for Shikamaru, Shikaku
Strength: 6 for Tsunade and Sakura, Sage Naruto
Speed: 6 for Raikage v1, 6.5 for Raikage v2, 7 for KCM Naruto and 8 for BM Naruto
Stamina: 6 for Raikage, 7 for Killer bee and 10 for Naruto with Kurama
Handseals: 6 for Itachi, Obito and Madara

Ok, now let's go straight to how new Databook stats could look:

Ninjutsu power(new): (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: (Taijutsu skills)
Genjutsu: (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new)(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 65 points(MAX)

So Do you think more categories and new scale added could make Databook stats more accurate to judge which character is more powerfull or no ?

Would you add more categories then I or less ? Would you add one scale more(6-10 for expert in each category) or no ?

Please share your thoughts on this topic and post your own Databook with categories and scales if you have another idea

Thanks for reading and let's great debate begin =D=D=D

 

[The Big Boss]

there are only 3 data books, information has been old for years, maybe when the manga is done, there will be a 4th data book

 

[S A G E]

Can somebody please link me to those datebooks?
I have been wondering for a long time now......

 

[KCMNaruto]

Can somebody please link me to those datebooks?
I have been wondering for a long time now......

I am not sure if I could post here link to another thread, I will send you private message later becuase now I am on my phone

 

[KCMNaruto]

Rates in my new categories, with old scales:

1. Obito

Ninjutsu power(new): 5 (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: 4.5 (Taijutsu skills)
Genjutsu: 5 (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): 3 (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new) 5(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): 4 (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: 5 (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: 4 (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): 5 (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): 4.5 taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): 4.5 (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: 5 (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): 5 (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): 4 (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): 5 (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 58.5/65

2. Naruto(All modes):

Ninjutsu power(new): 5 (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: 4.5 (Taijutsu skills)
Genjutsu: 5 (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): 4 (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new) 4(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): 4 (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: 5 (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: 5 (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): 3 (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): 5 taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): 5 (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: 5 (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): 3 (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): 3 (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): 5 (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 55.5/65

Would you agree with these stats or no ?, Would you like me to do stats for more characters with new categories added or no ? =D

 

[Sherlock.]

I liked the idea.... =D =D

 

[KCMNaruto]

I liked the idea.... =D =D

Thanks friend , I am glad you like it

 

[Yagamikira]

Rates in my new categories, with old scales:

1. Obito

Ninjutsu power(new): 5 (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: 4.5 (Taijutsu skills)
Genjutsu: 5 (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): 3 (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new) 5(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): 4 (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: 5 (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: 4 (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): 5 (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): 4.5 taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): 4.5 (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: 5 (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): 5 (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): 4 (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): 5 (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 58.5/65

2. Naruto(All modes):

Ninjutsu power(new): 5 (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: 4.5 (Taijutsu skills)
Genjutsu: 5 (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): 4 (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new) 4(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): 4 (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: 5 (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: 5 (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): 3 (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): 5 taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): 5 (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: 5 (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): 3 (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): 3 (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): 5 (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 55.5/65

Would you agree with these stats or no ?, Would you like me to do stats for more characters with new categories added or no ? =D

no because naruto should have a 5 or 6 or 7 for taijutsu on your list though.
his taijutsu is great when he is in sage mode..

 

[KCMNaruto]

no because naruto should have a 5 or 6 or 7 for taijutsu on your list though.
his taijutsu is great when he is in sage mode..

lol sorry I forgot Sage mode enhance Naruto's taijutsu =D

Rates in my new categories, with old scales:

1. Obito

Ninjutsu power(new): 5 (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: 4.5 (Taijutsu skills)
Genjutsu: 5 (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): 3 (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new) 5(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): 4 (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: 5 (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: 4 (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): 5 (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): 4.5 taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): 4.5 (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: 5 (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): 5 (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): 4 (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): 5 (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 58.5/65

2. Naruto(All modes):

Ninjutsu power(new): 5 (powerfull Ninjutsu or no)
Taijutsu: 6 (Taijutsu skills enhanced with Sage mode)
Genjutsu: 5 (Genjutsu skills, or defence against Genjutsu skills)
Kenjutsu(new): 4 (skills with sword, katana)
Bukijutsu(new) 4(skills with shinobi weapons)
Inteligence(new): 4 (Shinobi clever idea's, IQ)
Knowledge: 5 (Shinobi's knoweledge about shinobi world)
Strength: 5 (Shinobi's strength)
Ninjutsu variations(new): 3 (Numeber of techniques you have and elements manipulations etc...)
Speed movement(new): 5 taken from speed divided in two categories)
Speed reaction(new): 5 (your reaction time, dodges while staying place)
Stamina: 5 (Shinobi's stamina)
Handseals(new): 3 (pace of doing handseals, skills with doing complicated long handseals)
Sealing techniques(new): 3 (skills in sealing techniques etc...)
Endurance(new): 5 (how durable your body is and suriving skills)

Overall: 57/65

Would you agree with these stats or no ?, Would you like me to do stats for more characters with new categories added or no ? =D

 

[thegame]

The databook stats don't need changes. Rather it needs a "guide" for those many, who doesn't understand, what they are made for.

Fact is you can in no possible way compare shinobi on simple manners such as ninjutsu genjutsu or tajutsu, because there are several categories in each. Also it depends so explicitly on the persons specific type of jutsus. It just can't be done U_U

Adding more parameters just makes it more complicated, but it doesn't fix the problem. It's just not possible to compare them, because they weren't created for the purpose to be compared. So there is really no point in trying to do so...

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

Great theory

 

[fayeon]

Good idea but it's not like kishi will see this .

 

[KCMNaruto]

The databook stats don't need changes. Rather it needs a "guide" for those many, who doesn't understand, what they are made for.

Fact is you can in no possible way compare shinobi on simple manners such as ninjutsu genjutsu or tajutsu, because there are several categories in each. Also it depends so explicitly on the persons specific type of jutsus. It just can't be done U_U

Adding more parameters just makes it more complicated, but it doesn't fix the problem. It's just not possible to compare them, because they weren't created for the purpose to be compared. So there is really no point in trying to do so...

OK, I got you point of view. I would agree with everything you wrote but I simply searched way for Databook to become accurate..., to compare characeters

Great theory

Thanks man I am glad you like it

Good idea but it's not like kishi will see this .

Thanks a lot for your support =D

btw. nice avatar

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

honestly i dont want ppl to think i'm bashing but can you really take the databooks 100 percent serious and as facts???? the data books and narutowiki ...anyone can post on there....it's not kishi that is actually writing the databooks.