Naruto chapter 699 and Naruto the Last

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Can someone explain to me why people are saying naruto loses his RSM before the last hence making him weaker ?
I'm pretty sure you know why it's being said.. Whether or not you accept the reason is up to you.. If you don't believe it, that's fine. If you do then that's fine as well.
 
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I'm pretty sure you know why it's being said.. Whether or not you accept the reason is up to you.. If you don't believe it, that's fine. If you do then that's fine as well.
The only reason for it being said is because Naruto didn't use it in the movie. That's nonsensical, and if you want to argue about it, your going to lose. Cause we have WAY more points leading towards Naruto keeping the form, other than "why didn't he use it in the movie."

He didn't lose RSM. The movie shouldn’t be taken seriously as it is a recon love movie, secondly Naruto’s design was shown in his “full” Kurama form, thirdly if the manga doesn’t state that they lost the power up. They never lost it.
 
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The only reason for it being said is because Naruto didn't use it in the movie. That's nonsensical, and if you want to argue about it, your going to lose. Cause we have WAY more points leading towards Naruto keeping the form, other than "why didn't he use it in the movie."

He didn't lose RSM. The movie shouldn’t be taken seriously as it is a recon love movie, secondly Naruto’s design was shown in his “full” Kurama form, thirdly if the manga doesn’t state that they lost the power up. They never lost it.
i'll go with this kid . he knows what he's talking .
 

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The movie didn't want to reveal the RSM or Sasuke's perfect Susano'o. It's really that simple. The movie should have just been released after the anime caught up to Ch.700.
 

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The only reason for it being said is because Naruto didn't use it in the movie. That's nonsensical, and if you want to argue about it, your going to lose. Cause we have WAY more points leading towards Naruto keeping the form, other than "why didn't he use it in the movie."

He didn't lose RSM. The movie shouldn’t be taken seriously as it is a recon love movie, secondly Naruto’s design was shown in his “full” Kurama form, thirdly if the manga doesn’t state that they lost the power up. They never lost it.
Definitely not willing to argue over opinions. But as I sated, why ask the question when he knows the answer? And it's impossible to lose a argument over opinions..
 
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Definitely not willing to argue over opinions. But as I sated, why ask the question when he knows the answer? And it's impossible to lose a argument over opinions..
Very true. However the opinion of Naruto losing RSM is not an "opinion." It's obvious to whether or not the power is stable inside of his body, most of the people who deny it base it off claims that it was not shown in a movie. When the manga provides claims to it never leaving the body.
 

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- Was given Rikudou's chakra (chakra belonging to another source that Naruto does not have) to beat and stop Madara , which resulted in them stopping Kaguya and fighting at the end.

- Now can someone tell me , where Sasuke and Naruto are going to get Rikudou's chakra from? Does Rikudou come every night and give it them? Did Rikudou make pills for them?

The movie didn't want to reveal the RSM or Sasuke's perfect Susano'o. It's really that simple. The movie should have just been released after the anime caught up to Ch.700.
@Bold, they didn't want to reveal something that already would've happened in the manga, by the time the movie released? rofl what?
 
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wait have you guys seen the last where can i watch it?
hypnotized by your gif lol. I seriously looked at it for like 5 mins hahaha.

OT: If naruto had RSM, then why not use it when it def couldve helped? I think naruto is still super powerful because instead of a half powered kurama BM, he has a full 100% powered kurama BM. But it seems he did lose RSM. Also, in the databook it says that RSM gives the user the innate ability to understand all jutsu; hence explaining how naruto could fly and heal kakashi's eye and restore gai's chakra without fully understanding how he was able to do these things. Seems to me that he wouldve used those gifts if he still had them.

BTW, I'm a huge naruto fan so I'm not hating
 
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The only reason for it being said is because Naruto didn't use it in the movie. That's nonsensical, and if you want to argue about it, your going to lose. Cause we have WAY more points leading towards Naruto keeping the form, other than "why didn't he use it in the movie."

He didn't lose RSM. The movie shouldn’t be taken seriously as it is a recon love movie, secondly Naruto’s design was shown in his “full” Kurama form, thirdly if the manga doesn’t state that they lost the power up. They never lost it.

- Was given Rikudou's chakra (chakra belonging to another source that Naruto does not have) to beat and stop Madara , which resulted in them stopping Kaguya and fighting at the end.

- Now can someone tell me , where Sasuke and Naruto are going to get Rikudou's chakra from? Does Rikudou come every night and give it them? Did Rikudou make pills for them?


@Bold, they didn't want to reveal something that already would've happened in the manga, by the time the movie released? rofl what?
hypnotized by your gif lol. I seriously looked at it for like 5 mins hahaha.

OT: If naruto had RSM, then why not use it when it def couldve helped? I think naruto is still super powerful because instead of a half powered kurama BM, he has a full 100% powered kurama BM. But it seems he did lose RSM. Also, in the databook it says that RSM gives the user the innate ability to understand all jutsu; hence explaining how naruto could fly and heal kakashi's eye and restore gai's chakra without fully understanding how he was able to do these things. Seems to me that he wouldve used those gifts if he still had them.

BTW, I'm a huge naruto fan so I'm not hating
I answered a few of your questions in my first QUOTE. If you want to ask more, I'll answer them appropriately.

1. Hagoromo awakened their powers, to simplify this in the databooks it was a "gift."
It was a power Hashirama/Madara could of awakened through Hagoromo's help, and it is a part of them. Nothing less, nothing more. If you want me to get serious into the discussion I will, but I'm sure your more than capable of understanding common sense.

2. I answered your questions above
 
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hypnotized by your gif lol. I seriously looked at it for like 5 mins hahaha.

OT: If naruto had RSM, then why not use it when it def couldve helped? I think naruto is still super powerful because instead of a half powered kurama BM, he has a full 100% powered kurama BM. But it seems he did lose RSM. Also, in the databook it says that RSM gives the user the innate ability to understand all jutsu; hence explaining how naruto could fly and heal kakashi's eye and restore gai's chakra without fully understanding how he was able to do these things. Seems to me that he wouldve used those gifts if he still had them.

BTW, I'm a huge naruto fan so I'm not hating
Incorrect. Kishimoto made the designs for Naruto in his Full Kurama KCM mode, they never intended for Naruto to use RSM. Why? It was 2-3 years after the War Arc. They wanted to show how Naruto has grown as a shinobi, without using his full strength against Toneri.

Secondly, you cannot use Rikudou powers without Rikudou chakra. Naruto flying, hitting the TSB, and removing illegal chakra from Hinata were all the signs that we needed to understand this recon movie.
 

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I answered a few of your questions in my first QUOTE. If you want to ask more, I'll answer them appropriately.

1. Hagoromo awakened their powers, to simplify this in the databooks it was a "gift."
It was a power Hashirama/Madara could of awakened through Hagoromo's help, and it is a part of them. Nothing less, nothing more. If you want me to get serious into the discussion I will, but I'm sure your more than capable of understanding common sense.

2. I answered your questions above
I havent seen the new movie yet, so I'll stop short of speculating about different scenarios in the movie where it wouldve made sense for naruto to use RSM, if he had it. I guess my understanding of it is that when the seals returned to hago, the chakra did too. Naruto still has all the tailed beast, the metting place, etc but it seems implied that the last powerup was a temp one to help seal kaguya and once the sealing was done, so were the powers.

I think they both kept their respective powerups that came from help outside of hagoromo. Sasuke's rinnegan from hashi dna given from kabuto mixing with his uchiha dna(ashura/indra chakra mix) and naruto's bijuu's powers from the fragments he received earlier and from obito. Those powers are lasting but the seals which gave them another set of powers(i.e RSM) were returned to hago imo
 
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I havent seen the new movie yet, so I'll stop short of speculating about different scenarios in the movie where it wouldve made sense for naruto to use RSM, if he had it. I guess my understanding of it is that when the seals returned to hago, the chakra did too. Naruto still has all the tailed beast, the metting place, etc but it seems implied that the last powerup was a temp one to help seal kaguya and once the sealing was done, so were the powers.

I think they both kept their respective powerups that came from help outside of hagoromo. Sasuke's rinnegan from hashi dna given from kabuto mixing with his uchiha dna(ashura/indra chakra mix) and naruto's bijuu's powers from the fragments he received earlier and from obito. Those powers are lasting but the seals which gave them another set of powers(i.e RSM) were returned to hago imo
1. I saw the movie so let me explain to you the basics. The world was not in peril as most people believed. Kumogakure had a "cannon" to destroy the Moon in one blast, but Naruto wanted to handle Toneri by himself. Secondly, Hinata was in a bird cage. No one was in a life threatening situation, and Naruto himself was battling Toneri on equal ground and stronger in his base KCM/SM form.

2. Incorrect. The Yang/Yin Seals for Chibaku Tensei held the COAT (Creation of all Things - Naruto) and the Sage senjutsu (Yin techniques like Yin Chidori - Sasuke), when those seals were used. Naruto and Sasuke still retained their powerups. This is blantly obvious and I'm sad that you never caught onto this, after they sealed Kaguya and the seals left their palms, they were still in RSM/Sharringan form. They even FOUGHT at the VOTE in their RSM/Sharringan forms U_U

Both kept their powers in VOTE, nothing claims they lost it, and if you are seriously using a movie as a notion to say he lost it. That is truly absurd.
 
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