Naruto chaapter 646 discussion : Madara's trump card is...

[minamoto]

chapter 646 was a very informative chapter...we finally got to know how a better understand of the sages and juubi's history that its worth talking about it...But ...But.... but this uchiha Madara ..this god...uchiha madara and his not carring about obito being juubi just made me forget about story of juubi and juubito himself...whats this trump card
that makes madara so confident that he is the one who will cast the infnit tsukoyomi...so guys i think i have an answer :
wich is a shocking truth for ya'll...are you ready?..
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Madara's trump card is none then uchiha madara himself !!..let me rephraze that plz ...madara's trump card is the 2nd uchiha madara sealed within obito controlling him !!!...what does that mean?..that means uchiha madara is the only only only flaw of Edotensei !!!!..how's that?...becuz he was dead and alive at the same time !!!...how's that?...i tell you how..
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1st tobi's mystery isn't over its defintly not over yet !!!..thats why poeple were upset becuz it was too predictable that it was obito..but thats not true..if u noticed it well...kishimoto leaked and spoiled tobi's ID to be obito on purpose exactly in chapter 594..i.e in chap 599 what was revealed was the simplex part of Tobi's ID...however kishi created another ID for Tobi wich represents the complex part...now you asking why simplex and why comlplex?..kihsi did that so his manga could fit all ages and tastes..but not only that..kishimoto from tobi's mystery is trying to teach us to never believe in fuzzy truth..and to never make hasty judgements untill we get full understanding of this reality,otherwise our reality will end up beeng just an illusion (wrong)....so through itachi's wise quotes ; " Sasuke madara lives still, wether you belive me or not its up to you..one's truth is another's illusion, we all live inside our fantasies"....thus thinking tobi is just obito is fuzzy truth why?..becuz we still didnt get the full explanations how Tobi met itachi and kisame and why they belived he was madara...and other stuff like uchiha clan...Now the shcoking truth is that when madara was old and weakned he couldn't impelement his MEP with his old and weakned body..that why ...thats why...thats why he split his soul/consiousness and sealed it wiyhin a living body (obito)..Logic says that madara is not dumb stupid to just save a 13 years kid called obito and entrust him all the sacrifices he did for sake of his MEP....UNLESS !!..he become him and manipulate him....thats how tobidara (2nd madara) become a shell of his former self...while Edomadara is the reall vessel of tobi (remember madara's body has special secret engraved in the uchiha stones!!)
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ive got so many many convincing arguments that tobi is indeed uchiha madara manipulating obito..if you want me to make theory about it i will....plz guys..do you really think that some1 wise like itachi was fooled?..do you think kisame died being deceived by obito !!..comon !!!..Kisame died like hero protecting madara's secrets !!!...
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i know u r going to ask me..if tobi is indeed madara controlling obito then why is obito acting by his free will..the answer is simple go to chapter 601...where obito's arm shaked..madara spoke with the 2nd madara who is controlling obito..and said "well if its you then you must have a PLAN"..so tobidara has reason why he let obito act by his free will..probably they didnt want the shinobi alliance to know there existing 2 madara's...
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you wat another shocking truth are you ready?...the spiral zetsu is also part of tobi..hows' that?...he was being integrated as cells within obito's body to allow tobidara act like goofy guy and lead akatsuki from the shadow ( i got arguments for that as well)...

 

[-ahhimane-]

The second Madara Uchiha inside Obito you're talking about is none other than the "black chakra rods" inside Obito and nothing else. My hopes were high about the trump card man

 

[alex11]

Thats actually doas sounds reasonablee even thought far fetched............

 

[minamoto]

The chakra rodes are just tools by wich Tobidara can channel his consiousness to get over obito's body...the black matter as well is part of the 2nd madara sealed within obito...its not just a simple black zetsu...in other words when Tobi said i am a shell of my formerself " he meant he was the body-less form of madara"..or he was indeed madara but in another weaker body obito" ....there are similarities (and maybe connection) between orochimaru and madara's immorality jutsus....they both use living bodies to achieve immortality...

 

[minamoto]

thx...i dont know how to post well made thread+ my english sux lol...dont even know how to post picture to enhance it xD (i usually post my Tobidara theories in my youtube channel (Sozo Banbutsu)... i believe that kishimoto is using genjutsu on us...it doesnt make sence that itachi was fooled by obito...if you think about it logically...tobi praized itachi a lot even when he was dead....also it doesnt make sence that tobi trust kisame and at the same time lie to him about his true ID to be madara (and not obito)...its just illogic that kisame died being betrayed by obito if obito rcruited him for his loyalty...im pretty sure kisame died protecting madara's secrets....dont you find it weird how the masked tobi and unmasked obito traits are so much different...also obito seemed like he wanted to betray madara and never planned to revive him...however tobi once stated to konan and b.zetsu that nagato's rinnetensei should be uzed to revive him ...but how can tobi be revived when he is still alive?!..thats becuz he is Madara !!!..why would tobi spend some of his free time siting on the head of madara's giant statue in valley of end if he hates madara??.....now lately the latest chapter have beein boring like kishi is stagnating the progress of serie...but after that (maybe nex week)...and exactly after madara uses his trumpcard..i believe that the 2nd madara will emerge from obito and the reall shit will start...2 madara's will be runing around...and all the rest of tobi's flashbacks will be revealed...madara isn't stupid when he explained his trumpcard to hashirama..but instead he was giving him a puzzle to solve when he said he would switch with obito and take his place...so logically hashirama will prevent madara from swicthing body with obito But in truth this will be usless becuz the 2nd madara is already sealed with obito and its him who will switch with obito and take his place...I KNOW I COULD BE WRONG AS FAKE BUT COMON AT LEAST WHAT IM SAYING MAKES SENCE...ALSO SORRY FOR LONG ANSWER PLZ PLZ

 

[minamoto]

The chakra rodes are just tools by wich Tobidara can channel his consiousness to get over obito's body...the black matter as well is part of the 2nd madara sealed within obito...its not just a simple black zetsu...in other words when Tobi said i am a shell of my formerself " he meant he was the body-less form of madara"..or he was indeed madara but in another weaker body obito" ....there are similarities (and maybe connection) between orochimaru and madara's immorality jutsus....they both use living bodies to achieve immortality...

 

[Wabbit]

Interesting theory