Naruto cant be faster than the Raikage.....
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" He's going all out!! Does he want to kill Naruto? I can't make it out! "
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" He dodged it....?! "
Tsunade even said:
" Just like 'The Yellow Flash?!!' "
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" You're the second person so far who has been able to dodge my super speed punch. "
/end already proven stupid thread
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YellowFang
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Naruto is faster than A...
A could withstand the lightning teleportation technique with his LA activated which means LA grants A lightning fast speed, and Naruto dodged such speed with his speed, not reflexes. Naruto was on a run when A leaped at him and Naruto simply dashed away which means Naruto moves at speed faster than lightning... Minato was the one who did this with his godly reflexes... Because, Minato never saw such speed before and thus resorted to use FTG to not take any risks(I believe Minato could have outrun A if he also would be in motion)...
A could withstand the lightning teleportation technique with his LA activated which means LA grants A lightning fast speed, and Naruto dodged such speed with his speed, not reflexes. Naruto was on a run when A leaped at him and Naruto simply dashed away which means Naruto moves at speed faster than lightning... Minato was the one who did this with his godly reflexes... Because, Minato never saw such speed before and thus resorted to use FTG to not take any risks(I believe Minato could have outrun A if he also would be in motion)...
Medikalman
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Now im not a fan boy nor a super Naruto extremist.
But when Naruto obtained SM he is now able to sence things no other shinobi can. Hence when Naruto sensed Kisame and nobody else could. Could it be that Naruto is so in tuned with spirit energy he can sense movements or possibly even spirit energy moving around him, thus why he was able to dodge A's punch? Lol i know it sounds dumb but hey just an idea.
But when Naruto obtained SM he is now able to sence things no other shinobi can. Hence when Naruto sensed Kisame and nobody else could. Could it be that Naruto is so in tuned with spirit energy he can sense movements or possibly even spirit energy moving around him, thus why he was able to dodge A's punch? Lol i know it sounds dumb but hey just an idea.
KM/BM speed feats are not explained well at all. If KM is faster then the Raikage and the BM is faster then the KM then why was Naruto having such a hard to hitting Obito? If he is really that fast then why is he having so much trouble landing shots on him? We only have Kishi to blame for this. I personally think Naruto can only move at super speeds in charges instead of being able to do it constantly. Meaning he has to charge his power to move at a certain speed unlike the Raikage who can constantly move super fast. That is the only logical thing I can come up with because there is some serious plot holes with Obito being able to counter ANYTHING BM Naruto was doing if he was so fast.
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It's call practice. This first time Naruto used his speed, he got his foot stuck in the wall. He wasn't able to control his speed and only used it to dash. Raikage vs Naruto was really Naruto training to control and use his speed. Not to mentioned that A cornered Naruto with his FULL Speed.
For those saying he only dodge A because he told him, that doesn't guarantee anything at all. It likes when Sasuke first met Lee, even if the Sharingan let's him know what Lee is going to do, he couldn't dodge it.
Naruto dodge A because he was able to get a hand of controlling his speed and evasion. It was already proven that Naruto is faster than A. This thread is a very weird argument to start off.
For those saying he only dodge A because he told him, that doesn't guarantee anything at all. It likes when Sasuke first met Lee, even if the Sharingan let's him know what Lee is going to do, he couldn't dodge it.
Naruto dodge A because he was able to get a hand of controlling his speed and evasion. It was already proven that Naruto is faster than A. This thread is a very weird argument to start off.
KM gives him the ability to sense malice and killer intent. He didn't see the punch coming, he felt it. A states that he came at Naruto with the intent to kill, Naruto sensed that and reacted accordingly. He didn't see it coming, he could have easily had his eyes closed and stiil dodged it.
I figured. The first time he used his speed, he wasn't good at it. That's because his fighting style does not deal with speed being the offensive power. He mainly used it to defend and evade right now. I think the reason why Naruto couldn't hit Obito is because he had better reaction and can go into the other dimension.
Like I said, Naruto hasn't really used it for offensive purposes yet.
YellowFang
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BM is not faster than KM, it's just in BM Naruto can handle such speed easily, while in KM he wasn't able to keep up with his own speed...
Yeah, but the problem with that is Naruto's main ability is to detect negative feelings, which Obito has. That means he should have dodge Obito's attack when he felt it. But I'm not too sure though.
I can see that, but I also don't recall Naruto actually getting hit by Obito either, though I can't say for sure. Plus he really isn't trying to kill Naruto, just capture him. That's all I got.
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Well, the user has to focus the vague amount of chakra in his eye, and has to focus his eyesight on target. In that sense its not instant. Still, it appears on exact spot, its not a projectile.
PureSkillz
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Wtf.. He outpaced him therefore he's faster. :|
You can't call plot hole if the feat has been made clear twice.. We saw Naruto dodge A at his fastest, then we
saw A say that Naruto was the second person to dodge his fastest punch.
You can't call plot hole if the feat has been made clear twice.. We saw Naruto dodge A at his fastest, then we
saw A say that Naruto was the second person to dodge his fastest punch.
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The Sharingan Allows It's User to see their opponents move before they make it. Naruto didn't see the Raikage's punch coming before he even made it. He can't perceive his opponents attack before it is made, he can only perceive that there will be an attack of some sort. As such, he dodged the Raikage's attack through simple perception that the Raikage would try to stop him from leaving, through force. Naruto's reflexes were improved but not his visual perception. That stayed the same. Why? It's simple - KM Mode enhances his speed and reflexes, NOT His Visual Perception. Even the simplest mind would be able to see the Raikage's attack coming in that situation. If you cannot accept the irrefutable facts, then you shouldn't post stupid threads like this.
As for MS - It doesn't enhance anything for the user. It only grants access to the MS Techniques.
Sharingan gives it's user the ability to see their opponents move before it's made but with one crucial flaw -
It does not enhance their speed/reflexes. The user must train these things on their own. It does not matter if you can see a move before it is made, If you do not have the speed to keep up you will fail. It's as simple as that.
Logic dictates that the anticipation of an attack only helps if you have the speed and reflexes to dodge it.
Naruto has both. Therefore, Logically speaking, Naruto anticpated the Raikage would attack him and acted accordingly. He has the speed and reflexes to dodge, therefore, he dodged the attack. Hence It is concluded that Naruto is infact faster than Raikage, and that Naruto only seen the Raikage's attack coming because of simple human perception. If you know someone is going to try to stop you with force, then you anticipate an attack.
As for MS - It doesn't enhance anything for the user. It only grants access to the MS Techniques.
Sharingan gives it's user the ability to see their opponents move before it's made but with one crucial flaw -
It does not enhance their speed/reflexes. The user must train these things on their own. It does not matter if you can see a move before it is made, If you do not have the speed to keep up you will fail. It's as simple as that.
Logic dictates that the anticipation of an attack only helps if you have the speed and reflexes to dodge it.
Naruto has both. Therefore, Logically speaking, Naruto anticpated the Raikage would attack him and acted accordingly. He has the speed and reflexes to dodge, therefore, he dodged the attack. Hence It is concluded that Naruto is infact faster than Raikage, and that Naruto only seen the Raikage's attack coming because of simple human perception. If you know someone is going to try to stop you with force, then you anticipate an attack.