I really don't know what to say,Ay clearly mentioned it,why would someone say the manga is wrong,is that person kishi?
seriously .... :sy: ...... so you said "I never said he wasn't moving at the same speed" then now you make your point clear and say that the raikage slowed down in that BLACK background witch is the moment of impact ..... please go watch these same moments in the anime, maybe you will get what am saying. naruto did move faster at that time (raikage's speed never changed in the normal and the black background) and minato did use ftg (witch is obviously faster) before the raikage hit him (raikage was punching him in the face so normaly that would be the place minato is looking). A never slowed down (his actual movment), your point of him slowing down in the black background is .... silly (no offence). U_USigh..I know the cinematics are there, but you don't know where there are at the manga as you have demonstrated in your post.
Look at when Minato used FTG to dodge him.
First panel-White background, Minato sees Raikage in front of him.
Next panel-Black background (This is when the cinematics are in play to add a slow motion effect)
Both times where there is a black background in Minato and Naruto's confrontations with the Raikage, that is when it slows down.
The bold is the pause between the Raikage trying to hit him and Minato dodging, this is pause I'm referring to, not the slow motion panels they show when Naruto/Minato was about to dodge the Raikage.
:sy: :sy: :sy:seriously .... :sy: ...... so you said "I never said he wasn't moving at the same speed" then now you make your point clear and say that the raikage slowed down in that BLACK background witch is the moment of impact ..... please go watch these same moments in the anime, maybe you will get what am saying. naruto did move faster at that time (raikage's speed never changed in the normal and the black background) and minato did use ftg (witch is obviously faster) before the raikage hit him. A never slowed down, your point of him slowing down in the black background is .... silly (no offence). U_U
ok wait a second so we were saying the same thing over and over again (the same point about the slow motion) ..... lol sorry but now am curious to why you mentioned that in your first post about the black and the white back ground ??:sy: :sy: :sy:
The black background wasn't the Raikage slowing down genius, that was Kishi implementing a slow motion effect, the characters themselves didn't actually slow down. When there is slow motion effect in different shows and manga do the characters actually slow down? No they don't.
The point of impact are the panels after the black one.
I don't see whats so hard to understand about this.
A never slowed down.
Black Background was a slow motion effect for a more dramatic feel.
Black background- Shows when Kishi decides to implement the slow motion effect for added drama.ok wait a second so we were saying the same thing over and over again (the same point about the slow motion) ..... lol sorry but now am curious to why you mentioned that in your first post about the black and the white back ground ??
i don't wana be rude but seriously i regret every moment i argued with you coz you don't know what you are talking about .... :sy: i thought i misunderstood your point but it was the same.Black background- Shows when Kishi decides to implement the slow motion effect for added drama.
White Background- Normal
As you can see Minato saw A right in front of his face, right before he tried to punch him in the White background, indicating that this isn't slow motion, so you can't say that the pause between A's attack and Minato dodging was due to slow motion or cinematics or anything like that.
The pause I was referring to, is the pause between A trying to hit Minato and Minato dodging him, Minato dodged him in that short time frame. As you can see A's fist is lunged back ready to strike Minato then he dodged with FTG.
:sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy:i don't wana be rude but seriously i regret every moment i argued with you coz you don't know what you are talking about .... :sy: i thought i misunderstood your point but it was the same.
dude your an idiot even minato seen it coming with out much trouble naruto also can sense negative emotions also i dont ever remember reading that ms increases perception all it does is gives new techs and ability to control kyuubiFunny how eveyone is posting in the thread but still isnt explaining to me how Naruto saw A's punch coming. Either his visual perception is better that the sharingan or its a plot hole.
Its logically impossible and ill explain why.
First of all,we all know the best ability to read moves lies within the sharingan. A not only did he state it on multiple occasions but we cleary saw how he ran circles against sasuke. We also know that A's lightning armor increases his reflex synapsis so much, he was able to see and dodge amateratsu, an instantaneous attack. Now with that in mind, this could only mean one of 2 things:
1.KM mode has to enhance narutos reflexes and visual perception to that of a level even greater that the mangekyo sharingan. Now i know A>B>C logic doesnt work well,but this case is an exception. While i believe naruto has the speed to dodge it, I dont think he has the perceptive abilites or reflexes to see it coming.
2.Plot hole.
The 4th is an exception because it was stated that he had top tier reflexes....he also had a T/S jutsu which we know beats any speed jutsu.
I agree Minato is the fastest he so fast that he was able to hit obito with the rasengun naruto could only hit him with the help of KakashiNaruto is faster due to KCM mode dodging raikage, so BM mode is logically faster. However, he is not faster than minato and thats a fact
What is wrong with you? He simply dodged the punch with speed. It has nothing to do with visual perception. He saw raikage coming as fast as he could...and he moved.lol stay off that pipeFunny how eveyone is posting in the thread but still isnt explaining to me how Naruto saw A's punch coming. Either his visual perception is better that the sharingan or its a plot hole.
im preety sure he would of used his best lightning armor against madara which he did not so that "should be his best armor unless he can preform fusion with bee. "fusio" from (dragon ball gt). he does not appear to have a better form.Again....How did Naruto see his punch coming?
/case opened, hi