Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

[Frikid]

Thanks!

1. Naruto's chakra arms are either as strong or stronger than the Raikage's punches, easily.

2. No. Itachi attempted to do Amaterasu, only THEN that Kotoamatsukami activated. Itachi clearly said that they would only activate if his eyes attempted to attack Naruto. Kotoamatsukami was activated by the crow, not Itachi. Nagato sensed Itachi.

3. That's true, but Sasuke doesn't rival Naruto in stamina so If he makes it a battle of stamina and chakra dissipation, he would absolutely lose so that's why I said it doesn't matter. And no, MS and EMS do not see through clones. If it did, he would've known that Bee had pulled one on him when he took him back to Tobi. Madara said he was the ONLY one who could see though hashirama's clones with his eye techs. You can't generalize that to every user. Also, we don't know if he was lying since he apparently died because he was tricked by a wood clone.

4. I don't see how it prevents him from doing that, Naruto is fast enough that Sasuke can't catch him and assuming he does, that doesn't make a difference, he can wrap himself with his chakra cloak and attack him. Don't forget that he can use underground attacks with his chakra arms too.

1. Even though they could pulverize those big rocks easily, still its strength cannot be compared to raikage who have trained himself for years to specialize in taijutsu and his raiton armour gives his attack a massive boost.

2. If itachi attempted to do amaterasu as you say, why didn't it happened? Crows are itachi's summonings and he have shown to control them as he pleases, so he just bring it out. And crows cannot activate KA, it got activated automatically as soon as it saw itachi's MS, it was set to activate by itself as a reaction upon coming across itachi's MS.
And KM naruto haven't shown any reaction towards itachi when itachi used amaterasu which implies that he cannot sense amaterasu in KM.

3. When madara got tricked by hashi clone, his sharingan was not ON , i guess?
When madara said only his EMS , he meant only his EMS because he was the only EMS user at that time. And naruto cannot make mokuton clones, he can make shadow clones which are fairly easy to determine for a EMS user. Also, both of their sharingan have shown to have same features (susano,tsukiyomi,amaterasu) so why would this be an exception?
Sasuke have shown no sign of fatigue even after spamming his EMS for a whole day, he soloed many zetsu, then kept his susano ON during the whole battle against kabuto, repeatedly used amaterasu and there was not even one shred of fatigue on his face. He looked just fine after the battle. So we can conclude he himself have high chakra reserves and wont have any problem in dealing with weak shadow clones.

4. Underground attacks wont be effective against someone who can see chakra. One needs to be at one place to do underground attacks like that which would only lead to naruto's demise as he would make terribly easily for sasuke to amaterasu him.
It is merely a speculation that sasuke can't keep up with naruto's movements. i have said that repeatedly in this thread, itachi,nagato,obito,madara - all of them could follow naruto's movements , why would sasuke be an exception?
Chakra cloak would simply make naruto an easy target.

If Naruto can stay out of Sasuke's line of vision, it will be easily dodged, the flames appear where the user focuses, Sasuke's eyes probably don't move as fast as Naruto so I doubt he can focus on him, and using enton slows down the flames even more so I doubt he'll hit him

this is a speculation.

Wrong, Ama travels, it's not instant
FTG is instant, the two are not comparable

Proof?
If ama travels, then it should burn everything in its way, including all the microorganisms and dust particles in the air, water vapour etc....

Dude he is Naruto.. He can dodge it because of plot.. On a serious tip.. you can't hit what you can't see. Naruto will have a counter for all Sasuke's jutsus.

We ignore plot no jutsu while doing such discussions. If it wasn't for the plot, sasuke can solo the juubi since juubi don't have any counter for amaterasu lol (just kiddin).

I still dont see why this is even being discussed.
only ignorant fanboys would think Sasuke's eyes could follow Naruto.

You are not really helping anybody by saying such things, either post counter arguments backed up with manga proofs(if possible) or feel free to pass by this thread.

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

I shouldn't have to.

Its obvious. To hit someone with Amaterasu, the Sharingan has to keep up with them.

Sasuke's Sharingan can't even keep up with A, Much less Naruto.

 

[HadouKage]

Proof?
If ama travels, then it should burn everything in its way, including all the microorganisms and dust particles in the air, water vapour etc....

Hyperbole????
Ama didn't even burn rocks, Garaa's sand etc. And was said to reach temperatures as hot as the sun
So this argument is invalid
And Ama does travel, just like it did with Itachi and Sasuke's fight. If it didn't then not only wouldn't have chased Sasuke, but different Ama's would have spawned in the locations Itachi was looking at.

Not only that, if it was instant/didn't travel, it would not have flung passed the Raikage onto the Samurai
A simple formula for you

Distance (D) = Rate (R) x Time(T)

 

[Frikid]

Hyperbole????
Ama didn't even burn rocks, Garaa's sand etc. And was said to reach temperatures as hot as the sun
So this argument is invalid
And Ama does travel, just like it did with Itachi and Sasuke's fight. If it didn't then not only wouldn't have chased Sasuke, but different Ama's would have spawned in the locations Itachi was looking at.

Not only that, if it was instant/didn't travel, it would not have flung passed the Raikage onto the Samurai
A simple formula for you

Distance (D) = Rate (R) x Time(T)

LOL!
Distance = Speed x Time
And what do you exactly mean , when you say "rate" ?

Ama did burn gaara's sand and it is indeed as hot as sun (not literally but yeah it is the hottest thing to exist in NV) which is why it can burn fire itself.

Well it did spawn at locations itachi looked at , but itachi was mainly focusing on sasuke. for instance, amaterasu got spread through forest.

Amaterasu summons only where the user focus at, raikage quickly passed by sasuke's focus and the stuff behind raikage got into focus and got burned.

 

[HadouKage]

LOL!
Distance = Speed x Time
And what do you exactly mean , when you say "rate" ?

Ama did burn gaara's sand and it is indeed as hot as sun (not literally but yeah it is the hottest thing to exist in NV) which is why it can burn fire itself.

Well it did spawn at locations itachi looked at , but itachi was mainly focusing on sasuke. for instance, amaterasu got spread through forest.

Amaterasu summons only where the user focus at, raikage quickly passed by sasuke's focus and the stuff behind raikage got into focus and got burned.

Rate/Speed interchangeable =P

The manga disagrees with your bolded statement

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If it indeed spawned where Itachi's line of sight was, Sasuke would have been burned, here we can see the flames trying to catch up to Sasuke

And by what indication was given that Gaara's sand was burned? Have you ever considered the fact that maybe he just lowered his defenses? You are aware that if the hot as the sun's temperature statement was true, everyone on near Ama would be dead/melted

Fact is Ama isn't instant

 

[Optimistic]

Uchiha fans now a days.

 

[Frikid]

Rate/Speed interchangeable =P

I see what you did there .

now onto topic:

The manga disagrees with your bolded statement

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If it indeed spawned where Itachi's line of sight was, Sasuke would have been burned, here we can see the flames trying to catch up to Sasuke

And by what indication was given that Gaara's sand was burned? Have you ever considered the fact that maybe he just lowered his defenses? You are aware that if the hot as the sun's temperature statement was true, everyone on near Ama would be dead/melted

Fact is Ama isn't instant

How did this disagree with my statement? It actually proves what i said... Itachi burned everything which came into his focal point while he was trying to follow sasuke. (note : itachi did not want to kill sasuke)

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^ here gaara's sand is burning.
And as i mentioned earlier, it is not to be taken literally as hot as sun, this was just a hyperbole to describe how destructive amaterasu is. It is safe to assume that amaterasu is hottest thing in existence in NV.

 

[taladagah]

Good points. One thing I thought about though. Naruto is said to be faster then his father now who transported instantly. If that's true, that means naruto move's faster then his father reacts because its imposible to move faster then instant. With that said, if he can move faster then Minato reacts, I'm sure he can move faster the sasuke reacts hints dodging amaterasu.

 

[BlackFlame44]

amaterasu doesnt appear te fight with itachi proves that and the fact that when raikage dodged it it hit that samurai guy also does

 

[Penguin]

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KM Naruto's Kage Bunshins will help dodge Amaterasu. Sasuke's eyes cannot predict that many high speed targets.

 

[Turson]

amaterasu doesnt appear te fight with itachi proves that and the fact that when raikage dodged it it hit that samurai guy also does

Actually, it does appear. It did on several occasions. Besides, manga and Databook clearly explains how this technique works. However, the claim that Naruto cant dodge it is obviously not true. If A was fast enough to fool Sharingan eyesight, so is Naruto. But then again, its not like this technique is no danger to him.

 

[taladagah]

Actually, it does appear. It did on several occasions. Besides, manga and Databook clearly explains how this technique works. However, the claim that Naruto cant dodge it is obviously not true. If A was fast enough to fool Sharingan eyesight, so is Naruto. But then again, its not like this technique is no danger to him.

Good points. One thing I thought about though. Naruto is said to be faster then his father now who transported instantly. If that's true, that means naruto move's faster then his father reacts because its imposible to move faster then instant. With that said, if he can move faster then Minato reacts, I'm sure he can move faster the sasuke reacts hints dodging amaterasu.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Actually, it does appear. It did on several occasions. Besides, manga and Databook clearly explains how this technique works. However, the claim that Naruto cant dodge it is obviously not true. If A was fast enough to fool Sharingan eyesight, so is Naruto. But then again, its not like this technique is no danger to him.

Well if it appears than why was it literally chasing sasuke...

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

If the Raikage could then so can Naruto, that's what I believe

 

[johnnyindigo]

First of all , let me be clear, i am not talking about Amaterasu as in general but more specifically EMS sasuke's Amaterasu.

(there is summary in the end for lazy people)
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Many people think just because raikage barely managed to dodge Amaterasu, naruto can also dodge it but that is not the case here.

but first, I need to prove how raikage can't dodge amaterasu before proving for naruto.

It can clearly be seen in the page below, that when you activate amaterasu in MS, first blood comes out then amaterasu is summoned on the target.

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This takes out a lot of time for the user and also gives a hint to the target that amaterasu is coming hence giving him extra time to make necessary preparations for it.

This is the reason how raikage was able to dodge amaterasu.

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First sasuke concentrated on target(raikage) then blood came out and then amaterasu was summoned, which gave raikage more then enough time to use his Body Flickr combined with v2 armor and dodge it.

Now, this is EMS sasuke we are talking about , isn't it ? EMS = no MS drawbacks = less/no blood from the eye
That is right, with EMS , sasuke have become way too OP.
Now since there would be less blood coming out of the eye, amaterasu is unpredictable and even quicker than MS.
For raikage , who barely managed to dodge amaterasu by like 5 cm, this is overkill.

Now onto Naruto. We know in terms of speed, BM naruto > km naruto > Raikage (v2) .
1. But this doesn't matter to sasuke, why you ask?here is the reason :

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As seen above, sasuke can manipulate his amaterasu at will, this manipulation is also known as Enton(blaze release).
this is what makes sasuke superior to other uchiha such as itachi,madara (strictly in terms of amaterasu)

2. EMS Sasuke has shown to use amaterasu quickly, almost instantly.

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We can see in the page above , sasuke instantly made a wall of amaterasu. Any ninja who uses low range attacks or taijutsu is dead against this.

3. Sasuke has also shown to hit amaterasu at multiple target at one time.

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4. Sharingan's prediciton ability :

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From from point 1,2,3,4 we can concur sasuke can manipulate his amaterasu, spread amaterasu instantly and hit multiple targets at same time and use sharingan's prediction ability to know where naruto is going to move next.

With sharingan's prediction ability , sasuke can know where naruto is going to move, with enton he can spread his amaterasu and he can also hit multiple targets , so it is impossible for naruto to dodge amaterasu.

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We know in terms of speed, BM naruto > km naruto > Raikage (v2) .
1. But this doesn't matter to sasuke, why you ask?here is the reason :

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2. EMS Sasuke has shown to use amaterasu quickly, almost instantly.

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3. Sasuke has also shown to hit amaterasu at multiple target at one time.

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4. Sharingan's prediciton ability :

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From from point 1,2,3,4 we can concur sasuke can manipulate his amaterasu, spread amaterasu instantly and hit multiple targets at same time and use sharingan's prediction ability to know where naruto is going to move next.

With sharingan's prediction ability , sasuke can know where naruto is going to move, with enton he can spread his amaterasu and he can also hit multiple targets , so it is impossible for naruto to dodge amaterasu.

P.S : please do not post if your IQ is below 100 or your age is below 10.*_*

Sigh...
1. Raikage straight up dodged Amaterasu NOT BARELY, he straight up side stepped it bro Raikage can and will always dodge Amaterasu in V2
2. You showed Kabuto, but yet he dodged it, the amaterasu has a pressure of air surrounding it before it is used so it can be dodged with timing
SM Kabuto dodged it so theoretically so can SM Naruto?? While I personally think he can thats for another debate
3. Cant refute you point but it doesnt necessarily "help" your arguement
4.Sharingan can predict moves but that doesn mean that it can react to what its reading, as shown with advanced taijutsu users

Also you still bleed while using aamaterasu...

Lastly, if it were that easy then Sasuke would be "OP" sadly he's not, and hasn't killed anybody but fodder ninjas with this so called OVERPOWERED TECHNIQUE

 

[Turson]

Well if it appears than why was it literally chasing sasuke...

It wasnt really Amaterasu that was chasing Sasuke, but Itachis eyesight. As soon as Itachis eyes catched Sasukes wing, it started to burn.

 

[genii96]

Amaterasu isnt instant,it travels,hence A dodged it,and it cntinused moving and hit the samurai,it just moves very fast.

Km naruto can dodge it,however,he needs to time it correctly,sasuke' s eyes dont bleed unlike ms,which gave it away to A,so naruto has no prep to dodge or any giveaway.

Sm naruto's chakra sensing would allow him predict it,and maybe evade it,km naruto isnt that skilled in sensing as he cudnt detect the chamelion

 

[Donald J Trump]

Mabye so ^^

 

[Turson]

Amaterasu isnt instant,it travels,hence A dodged it,and it cntinused moving and hit the samurai,it just moves very fast.

Amaterasu does not travel, at least not in the initial phase of attack. It appeared on several occasions in manga. Moreover, both manga and Databook cleatly explains how it works and both sources state the same thing - that it appears. Amaterasu travels only if it miss its original target, like in samurai case.

 

[theTobiramaSenju]

Amaterasu only apears within short range, any naruto mode can dodge it easily